Posted on 12/24/2012 5:46:55 AM PST by IbJensen
Paris, France, Dec 13, 2012 / 04:37 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A French cabinet member announced that the government will monitor certain groups for "religious pathology," including a traditionalist Catholic organization, and will shut them down if it is discovered.
“The objective is to identify when it's suitable to intervene to treat what has become a religious pathology,” Interior Minister Manuel Valls told a conference on the official policy of secularism, according to Reuters.
“The aim is not to combat opinions by force, but to detect and understand when an opinion turns into a potentially violent and criminal excess,” he said at the Dec. 11 conference.
Valls' remarks come in the wake of President Francois Hollande's announcement Dec. 9 that he would create the “National Observatory of Secularism” to promote France’s policy and to “formulate propositions for the transmission of 'public morality,' giving it a dignified place in schools.”
Hollande's announcement of the observatory was made on the anniversary of the adoption of a law in 1905 that established secularism as state policy in France. It was accompanied by the decision to honor the sociologist Emile Poulat, who helped to “promote secularism as an essential value of our living-together.”
Secularism (laïcité in French) has received a boost from Hollande's Socialist government, which believes it was weakened under former President Nicolas Sarkozy.
Valls said that the government would be monitoring violence among religious radicals, including Salafist Muslims and Civitas, an organization of lay Catholics which is associated with the Society of Saint Pius X.
He said that Civitas is observed because its political protests flirt with “the limits of legality … All excesses are being minutely registered in case we have to consider dissolving it and defending this before a judge.”
Civitas is “a political movement inspired by natural law and the social doctrine of the Church … engaged in the establishment of the social Kingship of Christ” throughout the world, and in France in particular. It demonstrates against secularism and policies which denigrate Christianity.
According to Reuters, Valls offered radicals Islamists, traditionalist Catholics, and ultra-orthodox Jews “who want to live separately from the modern world” as examples of religious extremists.
Under the secularist policy, the government will identify “sects” and disband faith-based groups it deems to suffer from “religious pathology.”
On Oct. 31 of this year, the Tunisian imam Muhammad Hammami was expelled from France because he defended violence against women and made anti-Semitic speeches at his Parisian mosque.
“We decided to be uncompromising against all those who utter hate speech against the Republic and our values,” Valls said at the time.
In March 2012, an al-Qaeda supporter murdered three soldiers and four Jews in Toulouse, which Valls said at the conference “showed how quickly religiously radicalized people could turn to force.”
Secularism in France discourages the display of religion in the public square. In 2004, Muslim women were barred from wearing hijabs in public schools.
Education minister Vincent Peillon told the Dec. 11 conference that the classes on secular morality would emphasize the French secularist values of equality and fraternity.
In an interview with Le Journal du Dimanche, he said that secular morality is to “understand what is right and to distinguish good from evil.”
“Secularism is not about simple tolerance … it is a set of values that we have to share.”
EU fascist state is only a few more steps away. You have to hand it to liberals - they are really snide people. They advocate freedom of speech from one side of their mouths and then make laws to prevent it from the other when it does not fit in with their social engineering agenda. Such hypocrits! When they dislike your point-of-view they accuse you of "hate" and "deviancy".
Brack Obama's evil regime is only steps behind the EU!
The government-worshipers are the ones with the pathology.
Twas the month before Christmas
When all through our land,
Not a Christian was praying
Nor taking a stand.
Why the PC Police had taken away
The reason for Christmas - no one could say.
The children were told by their schools not to sing
About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.
It might hurt people’s feelings, the teachers would say
December 25th is just a ‘ Holiday ‘.
Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit
Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!
CDs from Madonna, an X BOX, an I-Pod
Something was changing, something quite odd!
Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa
In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.
As Targets were hanging their trees upside down
At Lowe’s the word Christmas - was no where to be found.
At K-Mart and Staples and Penny’s and Sears
You won’t hear the word Christmas; it won’t touch your ears.
Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-is-ty
Are words that were used to intimidate me.
Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen
On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!
At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.
And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace
The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded
The reason for the season, stopped before it started.
So as you celebrate ‘Winter Break’ under your ‘Dream Tree’
Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me.
Choose your words carefully, choose what you say
Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS,
not Happy Holiday !
Please, all Christians join together and
wish everyone you meet
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
The French Revolution represents a huge failure for secularism, a huge failure at egalitarianism, and general failure period. If you want to get everything wrong, do what the French do.
Formerly known as the "Committee of Public Safety" in earlier times. Look for similar results.
Yup. Religious people have to be persecuted to make the World safe for homosexuality. Except for th Muslims, of course—which ultimately means the end of homosexuality. So...the homos are just being used as a means to an end.
The Master Plan is one World government with Islam being the official religion. Why Islam? It makes the sheeple that much easier to control. In other words, its perfect for this purpose.
I wonder how long it will be before Hollande starts calling for the execution of those who do not worship the State. Thus mimicking or repeating The Terror of the French Revolution in 1793-1794.
That poem was very good, except the last stanza.
Signed: the local Poem Critic.
What do you think...?
Please, all Christians join together and pray
wish everyone you meet
A very MERRY CHRISTMAS day!
Ok, mine isn't very good either...
Merry Christmas.
Sign: Bored.
5.56mm
Yabut, it'll be safe Thursday.
And the French usually get what they want, which is historically a devenir chair à canon, and then surrender to the Conquest du Jour...
“According to Reuters, Valls offered radicals Islamists, traditionalist Catholics, and ultra-orthodox Jews “who want to live separately from the modern world” as examples of religious extremists.”
“Minister Valls then went on to give examples of the most dangerously extreme animals, mentioning turtles, frogs, sparrows and tigers. Valls ended his remarks with his opinion of some of the most extreme medical conditions, naming athlete’s foot, warts, dandruff and hantavirus.”
Freegards
Indeed, it looks like this is the beginning. Let any man who hath not a sword, sell his big screen and buy one.
Like all socialists, communists and homosexuals and their sycophants, Vall is insane as is Bronco Bama.
Mr Valls seems to exempt the rabid traditionalist Islamists - must have been an oversight...
or maybe he knows they would burn all of France down in a heartbeat.
They are totally running scared from the Islamists.
Lurking’
(In Germany Santa brings gifts in the late afternoon of the 24th)
Since the left defines the homeland of the Jews as a de facto apartheid state, people who strongly support Israel could be considered to be “extremist” by such a government.
Amen, brother.
The most acute "religious pathology" in the world today, not counting the Muslim mass movement rash, is secular humanism, "the religion of non-religion."
What presumption it takes to believe there's a neutral, "rational" middle ground, and in France!
You have to be real blind, or be a victim of strong delusion. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.
The religion of non-religion is religion.
Amen, brother.
The most acute "religious pathology" in the world today, not counting the Muslim mass movement rash, is secular humanism, "the religion of non-religion."
What presumption it takes to believe there's a neutral, "rational" middle ground, and in France!
You have to be real blind, or be a victim of strong delusion. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.
The religion of non-religion is religion.
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