Skip to comments.BREAKING People (firefighters) Shot at Scene of Webster (NY) Fire
Posted on 12/24/2012 5:17:08 AM PST by Revelation 911
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This guy was crazy and should never have been released. In Florida, where I live, there have been a few killings over the years by nutcases who lived in remote places and have set up mantraps. However, in this case he lured the first responders into the trap.
I suspect that he was probably stirred up by the nutcase in CT. Crazy people probably read those news reports and thought, wow, cool, people will really understand my power if I blow away a few of them.
Guns make it easier for these people (and before you attack me, listen to the next part of this sentence), but they would have killed anyway and they should have been locked up and unable to get near any weapon or even any other unprotected human being.
Can commitment be abused? Of course. But only the good are dying now, and this has got to be stopped.
Where abouts is Webster? Upstate?
the perp killed his grandmother 30 years ago with a hammer
Sounds like instead of gun control - we need court control
Obama's trickle-down lawlessness is spreading. He's an agitator and organizer, and it's working.
THE SYSTEM IS WRONG !! Spengler should have never been released.
The site of the incident itself was a few hundred feet east of the Bay.
I lived in CA in the 1970 s during the heyday of deinstitutionalization, when they released a man who pleaded with them to let him stay in, because he said he felt “like a puppy on the freeway” when he was outside of that environment. They kicked him out, and within a matter of weeks he had killed a teenage girl who was walking along the road and then went on to kill and eat his grandmother.
Unfortunately, this made no change in the CA mental health plan, and Ronald Reagan ( as Governor) even came out and said that the mentally ill were really just fine and could get jobs such as ...playground monitors!
People in authority are completely unrealistic about the mentally ill.
“Difficult as it may be, the decision to protect firearms from illegal and unconstitutional confiscation must be a part of firearms training. It must be part of you, it cannot rationally be made as those arrive at your door to take your firearms from you.
It must also be widely known by any and all that any efforts by anyone in government do be involved in any confiscation scheme, will be met by deadly force. So spread the word it aint a secret. If you are looking for a ticket to oblivion, willingly give up your guns to anyone other than the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”
From “Unintended Consequences” (John Ross), page 151:
“Hm.” Walter had never heard of Irwin Mann talking about that part of his past.
“He was telling me about how the police came and took him and his wife away, and he never saw her or any of his family again. He said that Hitler killed six million Jews like him, and would have killed all of them if the Americans hadn’t fought against the Germans and beat them.”
“That’s probably true.”
“He talked about how none of them had any way to fight back. He said first the police took away the guns that were like the ones the soldiers used, then they took away ALL their guns. He said he hoped I was always a good shot with as many kinds of guns as possible, in case the same thing ever happened here.” Henry looked very upset. “Dad, I love shooting, but I don’t want to kill anyone. Could something like what happened in Germany ever happen here?” he asked.
Walter Bowman, the history teacher, looked his son in the eye. Want to take this question for me, Uncle Cam? he said silently. Finally he answered.
“It probably won’t happen here,” he said, and mentally added the word again. “I certainly pray that it doesn’t. We have a nation with the kind of freedoms that people in most other countries can only dream of. But to answer your question accurately, yes, it could happen here.” And it killed your uncle.
“There are always men who want more and more power, and history has shown us that these kind of men will take all they can from the people they control. Sometimes they are finally stopped when the people fight back. Sometimes the people don’t fight back, and they slowly lose their freedoms until it’s too late.
I keep reading about Hinckley, the nut that shot Reagan. He goes home TO DC (I think) for visits...no supervision. If you don’t think he’s thinking “evil thoughts” and the pleasure he got from his shoot, then you’re stuck on stupid. Our system is totally nuts !!
Just east of Rochester. I am a 22 year Volunteer Firefighter, one of these Brothers works to help us pump out Basements after Lee last year with the West Webster Pierce Pumper...we could do a basement in 17 minutes...now he and our other brother are gone. This is a horrifying tragedy of the first order, we now have to worry about sniper fire when responding....all we try to do is mitigate incidents and come home safe...
Amen. It is my belief that all men of good citizenship and character must know how to safely and effectively operate a firearm. The greatness of America used to be that we need not own one, but be ready to use one if needed. I do, I do not own a firearm but I am a hell of a shot.
Organized Crime insurance scam / body disposal bump for later...
I completely agree. The system is utterly nuts, and good, decent people are paying for it with their lives.
Yes, Webster is a nice “bedroom” community to the city of Rochester. ( No mall or buses) Home of Xerox Manufacturing, on the eastern side.
Lake Road has some of the biggest lakefront homes and some summer homes that have been converted to year around homes in that small strip area at the end of the bay.
You really make me want a hamburger at Don and Bob’s!
Maybe a white hot dog at Vic and Irv’s?
This is a special, significant Christmas. What I think you are seeing is Satan throwing a fit because his time is short. Jesus is comming back and sooner than many of us think. If you haven’t done it yet, give Him your heart. Let Him fix it like no one else can.
AMEN. I also feel like there is a significant amount of satanic activity happening lately because Satan understands Jesus will put at end to all of this soon.
He murdered her in 1980.
How evil and depraved must one be to murder their own grandmother? She was 92 and defenseless!
Scumbag. There is a place in hell for evil monsters like that.
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