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BREAKING People (firefighters) Shot at Scene of Webster (NY) Fire
WHAM13 ^ | 12/24/12 | WHAM13

Posted on 12/24/2012 5:17:08 AM PST by Revelation 911

Webster, N.Y. -- 13WHAM News has learned several people have been shot at the scene of a fire on Lake Road in Webster.

The fire is at 191 Lake Road near Bay Road. A source tells 13WHAM News that at that scene, an unknown gunman opened fire on fire crews on the scene.

The victims have been taken by Mercy Flight to area hospitals. The fire has now spread to a second house.

13WHAM has several crews converging on the scene and will provide updates at they're available.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; firefighters; firefightersgunned; firemengunned; firemenshooter; gunviolence; ny; shooting; williamspengler
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To: rochester_veteran

I forgot: Brighton was the original home of Wegman’s. It has now opened as far south as Fairfax, Virginia and when I can get there I bring those Zweigles natural casing hots, both red and white, back to Florida. After they begin to pop open we always cut them down the middle and turned them down to finish cooking...memories, they make life and me RICH!

( got to go get the mustard and relish for the white ones too! I always skipped the chopped onions...)


141 posted on 12/26/2012 7:49:19 AM PST by 3D-JOY (If there were no United States Armed Forces there would be no United States of America)
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To: 3D-JOY
Update from the wounded firefighters:

Statement from Joseph Hofstetter and Theodore Scardino, Webster firefighters injured in Monday’s incident

December 26, 2012

We wish to thank the community – and the nation – for the heartwarming response to Monday’s tragic incident. We deeply appreciate your compassion and support as we focus on recovering from our physical wounds. We are humbled and a bit overwhelmed by the outpouring of well wishes for us and our families. We are in good hands and want everyone to know that even though we are able to accept only close family visitors, we are so very grateful for your prayers.

Like so many others, our thoughts and prayers are with the families of Michael Chiapperini and Tomasz Kaczowka, and with those who lost their homes. Please consider directing any acts of kindness toward others.

They've been upgraded from "guarded" to "satisfactory" status.
142 posted on 12/26/2012 10:28:21 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
Report from late night news from yesterday (12/25/2012):

Human Remains Found At Webster Home

13WHAM News

Webster, N.Y. - Webster Police say human remains have been found, and they are believed to be that of William Spengler's sister, Cheryl.

Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering made the announcement Tuesday afternoon at a press conference.

Pickering says the remains were found at the home address of 191 Lake Road in Webster. The chief also says a medical examiner needs to confirm the identity and determine whether the victim was dead before the raging fire. Police say Spengler was armed with a large number of rounds and was "equipped to go to war" and kill innocent people.

Police at this time are following up on leads to determine where Spengler got his weapon.

Chief Gerald Pickering asks that if you have any information, to call 911.


143 posted on 12/26/2012 10:42:35 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
Brothers Don and Bob Bato must be gone by now. I had the twin boys Donny and Bobby in the Brighton school summer playground program. I think they lived in the city but Mother walked them over to the school mornings. 1956 or 1957...How time flies!

Close, but their actual last name is Barbato and the restaurants are still going, as Don's Original, thanks to Terry Klee!

Don's Original History

144 posted on 12/26/2012 11:11:34 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
Here's an airiel view of the houses that burnt down:


145 posted on 12/27/2012 6:50:59 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

Thanks for the continuing information...sad as it is!

It no longer is making the news here in Virginia.

This was one sick guy. I wonder how he managed for the years since he completed his prison term...something must have set him off again.


146 posted on 12/27/2012 8:06:46 PM PST by 3D-JOY (If there were no United States Armed Forces there would be no United States of America)
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To: 3D-JOY
This was one sick guy. I wonder how he managed for the years since he completed his prison term...something must have set him off again.

Spengler's mother died a couple of months ago and she left her money to the West Webster Fireman's Association:

Arline G. Spengler Obituary

Spengler, Arline G.

Webster: Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012, age 91. Predeceased by her husband, William. She leaves her daughter, Cheryl Spengler; son, William Jr.; nieces, nephews, cousins and many friends.

Services are private at the convenience of the family. Interment at Webster Union Cemetery. Memorials may be directed to West Webster Firemen's Association (Ambulance Fund).

Willard H. Scott Funeral Home

Spengler lured firefighters by setting his car and house on fire, while he layed in ambush.

BTW, sounds like he got his guns via a neighbor and her daughter:

Ex-Neighbor Helped Shooter Get Guns: Report

ROCHESTER NEWSPAPER SAYS AT LEAST ONE ARREST EXPECTED SOON

By John Johnson, Newser Staff

(NEWSER) – The man who killed two firefighters in an ambush was a convicted murderer, so how did he get the arsenal to pull off his plan? The Democrat and Chronicle of Rochester may have the answer: A woman who used to be his neighbor and her daughter helped Spengler get the guns, though it's not clear when. Spengler apparently said so in his note to police, sources tell the newspaper. Expect one or both women to be arrested soon. More coverage here, including autopsy results showing Spengler killed himself and was not shot by police.


147 posted on 12/28/2012 6:45:24 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
From:
Rachel Barnhart:

U.S. Attorney says Dawn Nguyen was with William Spengler in June 1010 when she purchased a Bushmaster .223 and Mossberg .12 gauge shotgun at Gander Mountain in Henrietta. She's charged with lying to the store, saying she would own the guns. She faces both state and federal charges of falsifying records. Could face more charges. Federal conviction carries maximum of 10 years, $250k fine. Nguyen is a former neighbor of Spengler.


148 posted on 12/28/2012 1:36:32 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

I believe that Rachel meant to post, “June 2010”.


149 posted on 12/28/2012 1:39:04 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
Update on fallen firefighter's funerals from Rachel Barnhart:

Mourners line up outside Webster Schroeder High School for calling hours. Heartwarming and sad. (Photo credit: Aaron Baker)


150 posted on 12/29/2012 11:06:52 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
Update from Rachel Barnhart:
The funeral for Lt. Mike Chiapperini is at noon. Live video of the service will be available at link below.

Live Video - Rochester, News, Weather, Sports, and Events - 13WHAM.com
www.13wham.com
Live Streaming Video

151 posted on 12/30/2012 6:58:38 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

Clarification, the funeral for Lt. Mike Chiapperini is at 12 PM EST on Sunday, 12/30/2012 and can be viewed from the video stream at the link above.


152 posted on 12/30/2012 7:04:52 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
One strong and brave women. Send prayers her way...
Rachel Barnhart:

Lt. Mike Chiapperini's wife, Kim: "All I see right now is goodness...their deaths have brought the community together...I take comfort knowing Mike died doing what he loved...My life is richer because of him...three beautiful children...I'm honored to have been his wife...I keep telling myself God needed him more than us....continue to pray for his soul and for Tomasz and for Joe and Ted...Perhaps think of Mike and Tomasz the next time you're serving others. That would touch my soul...I long for the time our souls will be together again."


153 posted on 12/30/2012 11:37:56 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

I honor people who have the faith to feel and say the things she has said today.

I hope we do not all ...soon forget”.


154 posted on 12/30/2012 12:43:21 PM PST by 3D-JOY (If there were no United States Armed Forces there would be no United States of America)
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To: 3D-JOY
I honor people who have the faith to feel and say the things she has said today.

I hope we do not all ...soon forget”.

We're all helping the families out. There was a firefighter's boot out today at the North Chili Food Town/IGA for donations and when I added my donation, I noticed that it was full!

155 posted on 12/30/2012 1:17:24 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
The funeral Mass for Tomasz Kaczowka at St. Stanislaus Church is at 10am today, 12/31/2012:


156 posted on 12/31/2012 6:22:31 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY
In better times, Tomasz Kaczowka and Mike Chiapperini'.


157 posted on 12/31/2012 6:59:04 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

Do you know if I can mail a check to the West Webster Fire Department?

It would be ( tiny road and no # needed) Old Ridge Road Webster NY 14580. Anyone want to join me?

I am glad the entire city is helping in a drive for their memory.


158 posted on 12/31/2012 2:57:32 PM PST by 3D-JOY (If there were no United States Armed Forces there would be no United States of America)
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To: 3D-JOY
Here's a link to the West Webster Fire Department donation page:

Donate To WWFD

Here's their address:

West Webster Volunteer Firemen’s Association 1051 Gravel Road Webster, New York 14580

159 posted on 01/01/2013 8:28:48 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: 3D-JOY

Thanks, will do it this afternoon.

It is on the corner of Gravel Road. I do think their doors did face Gravel. I had even forgotten the name of that road.


160 posted on 01/01/2013 12:18:34 PM PST by 3D-JOY (If there were no United States Armed Forces there would be no United States of America)
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