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Report: Jon Hammar to be released from Mexican prison today
fox news world ^ | 12/21/2012 | foxnews.com

Posted on 12/21/2012 6:58:27 AM PST by alancarp

DEVELOPING: Jon Hammar, the U.S. Marine imprisoned in Mexico on a gun charge, will be released today, his mother told Fox News Radio.

Olivia Hammar said the judge hearing Hammar's case issued a ruling in his favor and that her son is to be released at a time on Friday yet to be announced. No more details were available. Hammar, 27, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, has been stuck in a notorious, drug cartel-controlled prison just 15 miles south of the U.S. border since Aug. 13, after he crossed into Mexico and declared an antique shotgun to Mexican customs officials.

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1 posted on 12/21/2012 6:58:33 AM PST by alancarp
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To: alancarp

Sweet Home Al Obama works in mysterious ways...


2 posted on 12/21/2012 7:00:51 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: alancarp

Thanks be to God. I hope he was healed of the trauma that the war has brought upon him. God works in mysterious ways.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 7:10:17 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: alancarp

G-d willing, this is true.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 7:10:25 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: alancarp

5 posted on 12/21/2012 7:11:12 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: alancarp

With all due respect to the Marine, I can not even imagine going to mexico and even less so with anything they might consider jailing one for.

There are places you just don’t go unless it is for battle.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 7:12:01 AM PST by soycd
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To: alancarp

Evidently it took over four months for Mexican leadership to scrape together enough functioning brain cells to determine you don’t declare a weapon to authorities, if you have evil plans, or are doing anything other than what you think you are required to do by the letter of the law.

Confiscate the gun. Expel the individual. Hash the ownership out over time. Don’t imprison the guy for four months.

Talk about stupider than a jumping bean...


7 posted on 12/21/2012 7:13:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: alancarp
This may have had something to do with it: Mexico threatened with travel boycott until veteran freed

Hit them in the pocketbook.

8 posted on 12/21/2012 7:14:53 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: alancarp

Gotta give FoxNews some kudos on this.

They’ve been pushing it hard and I doubt the lefty media would have even glanced at a Marine carrying a weapon into a foreign country—other than maybe applauding his arrest.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 7:22:34 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: alancarp

Many US citizens are jailed in Mexico every year for firearms violations. The Mexicans will arrest for even minor things like parts to firearms or ammunition, very fanatical. This is well known on the border and the crossing near me has huge signs warning everyone headed to the border. My cousin guided hunters on hunts in Mexico for 40 years, had all the proper paperwork for firearms- was arrested on one trip anyway. My cousin knew some important people in Mexico and was released in 4 days- he decided to never return to Mexico. Having the right paperwork for one group does not mean other officials will recognize it. Mexico really is a third world country.

At the mercy of Mexican authorities there is no common sense to any part of the process.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 7:22:55 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: alancarp

I’m sure Obama put this off until this weekend.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 7:24:02 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: COBOL2Java

Awesome! ‘Bout time we put some muscle behind it.... though frankly, avoiding travel to Mexico is just a good idea in general.

Big props to the Congressmen/women (out friend Duncan Hunter among them) who took up the cause. His cause was finally gaining momentum this week.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 7:24:29 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals: making promises that no one's wallet can keep,)
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To: alancarp

Oh, thank God! What a relief for him and his family; Great!


13 posted on 12/21/2012 7:25:58 AM PST by dsutah
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To: alancarp

Oh, thank God! What a relief for him and his family; Great!


14 posted on 12/21/2012 7:26:22 AM PST by dsutah
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To: maddog55

I have still not seen Obama’s name associated with this case in any manner.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 7:27:22 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals: making promises that no one's wallet can keep,)
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To: Tammy8

Tammy, or anyone else, how strict are the gun laws in Mexico for their citizens and how is the enforcment?


16 posted on 12/21/2012 7:27:26 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Steve Newton

Hope this is true.

Praise God if it is! Big answer to prayer.

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17 posted on 12/21/2012 7:27:55 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: DoughtyOne

Payback for Fast & Furious, I would guess. Maybe it was all the talk about Americans boycotting travel to Mexico that brought them to their senses.


18 posted on 12/21/2012 7:28:03 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: alancarp

Doiint business in Mexico has serious consequences, too. Investing in Mexican property carries unexpcted prices.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 7:29:56 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: maddog55

Actually, by mentioning that abhorrent occupant of the White House, you just reminded me that I needed to change my tagline.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:07 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp

I have still not seen Obama’s name associated with this case in any manner.


And you won’t until the Marine is successfully home. Then, POTUS will take full credit for it. Whether he was involved or not.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:49 AM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: alancarp

Good news.

Q: So, what do we learn from this boys and girls?

A: Don’t go to Mexico.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:49 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: dsutah

Oops, sorry for repeat; I hit “Post” button again, because I thought it was stuck!


23 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:49 AM PST by dsutah
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To: DoughtyOne
Evidently it took over four months for Mexican leadership to scrape together enough functioning brain cells to determine you don’t declare a weapon to authorities, if you have evil plans, or are doing anything other than what you think you are required to do by the letter of the law.

The Mexicans sell a lot of stuff up here--automobiles, alcoholic beverages, much of the produce available in supermarkets, etc. The threat of a boycott by angry Americans probably smartened them up fast.

24 posted on 12/21/2012 7:33:04 AM PST by Fiji Hill (i)
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To: COBOL2Java

Speaking of travel into Mexico, Simply carrying an old expended shell casing in your luggage or automobile glove compartment will put you into a miserable prison.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 7:34:28 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: alancarp

I’m not convinced that der Fuehrer had much to do with this. I think the driving force was the group of congressmen who were pushing a campaign to kill off the flow of American tourists to the third world craphole called mexico.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 7:34:29 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: COBOL2Java
This may have had something to do with it: Mexico threatened with travel boycott until veteran freed

Most of the tomatoes you find in supermarkets are grown in Mexico. A boycott of Mexican agricultural products would also hit them hard.

27 posted on 12/21/2012 7:36:03 AM PST by Fiji Hill (i)
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To: alancarp

Must have been Whoraldo’s passionate plea this morning on Fox News that made it happen.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: alancarp

Rest assured that Obummer will take credit for the release of Hammar should it really happen.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 7:37:34 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: alancarp

It seems to have taken a Mexican judge, rather then an impotent State Department.

Of course, the SD couldn’t do anything, as their leader was home sick in bed with a concussion and a bad cold.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 7:41:53 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Sioux-san

If this is F&F related, that’s worse than just general principles IMO.

F&F was despicable. Make a formal complaint and press it at the appropriate venue. Don’t screw over one individual whose plight won’t be known by 85% of our populace.

Perhaps you’re right about the boycotting. I hadn’t heard of a big plan, but Mexico may have feared that eventuality.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 7:42:21 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Perhaps so. Whatever the case, I’m glad a judge took the right action.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 7:44:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: alancarp

Timing is everything.... especially in politics. This move was a given....Hammar’s release was for when....????


33 posted on 12/21/2012 7:48:33 AM PST by yoe
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To: DoughtyOne

This is all about screwing America and Americans for everything they can.

They dump their welfare, taxpayer sucking sows onto our society, their criminals to overload our prisons and their sexual predators to destroy our women and children.

They thumb their noses at our laws and gleefully jail and torture any jaywalker in their filthy country.

God Bless John Hammar. And thank God for this Christmas present to have him back on American soil and back with his family.


34 posted on 12/21/2012 7:51:04 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Sadly, I have to agree on all counts.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 7:53:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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Big ears will probably take credit, but this is Marines helping Marines and Americans standing behind this veteran Jon Hammar.

('Semper Fi' to Representative Duncan Hunter for fighting for Jon Hammar's release.)

Rep. "Hunter calls for Americans to boycott Mexico"

"Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican and Marine combat veteran, called on Americans Thursday to boycott Mexico until that nation releases Jon Hammar, a former U.S. marine, from prison.

Mr. Hunter also said he is prepared to go to Mexico personally to demand Mr. Hammar's release.

Mexican authorities are holding Mr. Hammer on weapons charges after he carried his grandfather's antique shotgun across the border into Mexico in August.

Photos from Matamoros state prison show Mr. Hammar shackled to his bed.

"Getting this Marine out of prison and home to his family must be a priority," Mr. Hunter said. "Marines don't leave each other behind, and I'm willing to do whatever I can to see that he comes home safely."

He also said he wanted to see the U.S. State Department take a more active role in trying to win the man's release."

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/dec/20/rep-hunter-calls-americans-boycott-mexico/#ixzz2FhcgL94m

Congressman Duncan Hunter shaking hands with some of his Brothers.

36 posted on 12/21/2012 8:08:59 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: 444Flyer

Thanks for mentioning that. I appreciate it.

Looks like the son is as good as his father.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 8:20:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: alancarp

100% chance that The Messiah (”Our Lord and Savior”) takes the credit for the Release.....


38 posted on 12/21/2012 8:20:23 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: alancarp

Praise the Lord.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 8:28:03 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: 444Flyer

Rep. “Hunter calls for Americans to boycott Mexico”

What about the rest of the Americans who are in prison? An American boycott on Mexican products may cause a mass release of thos injustly placed in Mexican prisons.


40 posted on 12/21/2012 8:35:49 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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Rep. “Hunter calls for Americans to boycott Mexico”

What about the rest of the Americans who are in prison? An American boycott on Mexican products may cause a mass release of those injustly placed in Mexican prisons.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 8:36:16 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: traditional1; Borax Queen

definitely this - ten thousand times over.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 8:36:29 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Refreshing to see some leadership in D.C..


43 posted on 12/21/2012 8:36:43 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: alancarp
For those of you in Rio Linda, not the guy who plays Don Draper in Mad Men


44 posted on 12/21/2012 9:14:51 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: COBOL2Java

I’ve been boycotting things Mexican for a long time. I would NEVER travel there anymore, it’s been years. We give them enough of our money. I don’t need to travel there as well. You don’t even know if you’d make it back home. Of course, that can be said of going to the grocery store here at home, but if you’re incarcerated there, good luck to you.


45 posted on 12/21/2012 9:25:16 AM PST by mancini
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To: roofgoat

Gun laws in Mexico for their own citizens are pretty strict, their Constitution provides for them to “keep” firearms but not to “bear” them as I understand it, what is allowed theoretically is home protection or shooting on own property in rural areas. Also restrictions are tight on citizens without ties to military or law enforcement as to owning most types of firearms. I have had ordinary rural citizens of Mexico tell me they are basically allowed something like a single shot 22 rifle. Many things play a part, bribery of officials, different enforcement in different areas- basically they are at the whim of local law enforcement and roving units of military- as are non-citizens.


46 posted on 12/21/2012 9:27:32 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: COBOL2Java

Kudos to Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Florida Republican, and Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, for pushing for this Marine’s freedom.

I just got back from Mexico City on Monday, and lived 10 miles from the border for a few years (Ft. Huachuca). At the border, the US is hot on intercepting drugs, and Mexico is hot on intercepting guns. That is a significant cultural difference.

Overall, Mexico has been a pretty good news story since the 1990’s (the years following the collapse of Soviet Communism), when the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) decided to liberalize their virtual monopoly on power, reduce the concentration of power in the office of the Presidency, and diversify the State’s massive role in the economy.

It is not well known in the US just how radical politics were in Mexico in the 20th century, because a virtual one party state re-wrote the history being taught, censored the press and pandered desperately for tourist cash. Trotsky didn’t flee to Mexico from the Soviet Union at random, he was welcomed by socialist revolutionaries in power who were implementing many aspects of his vision.

In the 1920’s and 30’s, the Mexican Government harshly suppressed religion - killing or driving out over 90% of priests, nationalizing Church properties, outlawing religion in public, and sparking the Cristero War which resulted in tens of thousands being killed. The Government eventually backed off its enforcement of the anti-clerical provisions of its revolutionary constitution, but kept its poverty-inducing socialistic practices until the 1990’s.

From 2000 to 2012, the conservative National Action Party (PAN) held the Presidency, and instituted economic liberalization which has transformed Mexico (a big factor in turning the tide on immigration). My wife and I rode to the pyramids of Teotihuacan outside of Mexico City with another couple who had been there in 2000. They were amazed by the dramatic transformation of what had been an endless slum of corrugated metal shacks.

Just this month, the PRI party re-assumed the Presidency after a 12 year break. A lot of folks are still very bullish on the prospects for the Mexican economy though, because the new PRI leadership grew up after the PRI liberalized, and power is more dispersed now throughout civil society. More concretely, PRI has a minority in the legislature, and can only pass legislation by consensus with the PAN. Also significant, is that public consensus is pretty strong now for free trade (Mexico has more free trade pacts than any other country), stronger anti-corruption measures, and more resources to counter narco traffickers. PAN, PRI and even the more left wing PRD were pretty much all espousing the same thing on these issues during the election.

So even though some things suck in Mexico, they have been getting better faster than most places. It offers great value for the tourist dollar, and my wife and I always have a good time when we go there. Having been to more than 70 countries, we go back to Mexico more than any other country. Some local law enforcement screwed an American in this instance (police corruption/inefficiency is a big problem there), but higher-ups have reacted to try to fix it. I would not hold it against the whole country - it was not a malicious anti-American policy, like you see in many other countries, but rather reflective of their own problems with law enforcement and their particular hot-button focus on gun smuggling.


47 posted on 12/21/2012 9:29:04 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: Sioux-san

Mexican authorities have been arresting US citizens for MANY years for firearms, ammunition, knives. It is a well known way to rot in a Mexican jail. Long before F & F. I imagine the pressure of bad publicity was getting to them to release this man, to their way of thinking though we were just upset that they jailed a hero/important person, it will not change the fact that they do the same thing to many Americans every year, and most rot away with sentences of around 30 years for little of nothing- parts or ammo even.


48 posted on 12/21/2012 9:45:29 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: alancarp; NautiNurse; StarFan
Thank God!

Gotta give give Bill O'Reilly a fair amount of credit for this... he's been at the forefront in getting this Marine home in time for Christmas, threatening a massive boycott of Mexico if the Mexican gov't didn't release Hammar.

49 posted on 12/21/2012 9:46:01 AM PST by nutmeg
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To: alancarp

I hope the lesson this kid takes away from his experience is that,particularly when entering a Fourth World lawless cesspool like Mexico,it’s not a wise idea to attempt to take *any* firearm with you,regardless of how harmless you think it is and regardless of the Second Amendment rights we might have here.Hell,I wouldn’t attempt to enter a hellhole like Mexico...a nation where every cop,every border guard and every judge is crooked and on the take (if not an actual psychopathic murderer)...with a pack of chewing gum.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 9:53:38 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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