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Gingrich: Conservatives Will Have to Accept Marriage 'Equality'
Newsmax ^ | 12/20/2012 | Stephen Feller

Posted on 12/20/2012 3:05:19 PM PST by Kazan

Edited on 12/20/2012 7:08:12 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Kazan
Gingrich: Conservatives Will Have to Accept Marriage 'Equality'

Why? The majority of states voted against it, and if this election weren't the year of the parasitic voter, there's no proof the people in those states would have accepted it, either. (Those who have it weren't given a voice. It was forced on them by people like Newt.)
Now I'm glad this guy didn't win the primaries. He's crazy.

101 posted on 12/20/2012 4:10:35 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kevmo
"***Yup. Where are the newtsters now?"

Well, I was originally for Perry, and I would be again in a minute. I still think he was the best man for the job, had it not been for that terribly-timed back surgery and the medications that made him loopy during the debates. You won't see him pushing sodomites.

However, when he dropped out, I went for Newt. And I have no problem telling you, sir, that you were right.

Live and learn, I guess.

102 posted on 12/20/2012 4:11:02 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Kazan

Just like we had to accept abortion in the first trimester, then on-demand abortion, then partial-birth abortion. Pretty soon we’ll have to accept out and out infanticide.

Likewise, we must accept “right to die,” “assisted suicide,” then euthanasia and finally “duty to die.”

I don’t know where “marriage equality” ends, but it sure doesn’t stop with just “gay marriage.” Normalization of Pedophilia? Beastiality? Don’t. Want. To. Know.


103 posted on 12/20/2012 4:11:19 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Kazan

Newt tipped his hand almost 20 years ago, in 1995, when he cozied up to a Log Cabin Republican from Wisconsin, as I recall. Newt basically said at that point that he could accommodate gays, that there might be votes in it for the Repubs. At that point I realized he was not a man of principle but a political finger in the wind guy.


104 posted on 12/20/2012 4:11:51 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: JCBreckenridge

Do you think Santorum will be a good general election candidate to defeat Hillary?


105 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:17 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: fwdude
And dumped his cancer-stricken wife to fornicate with a woman while he was STILL married.

Maybe he found himself another new squeeze, only this time it's a man.

106 posted on 12/20/2012 4:14:13 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kazan

A seven year old told me that she was going to marry a girl. They are brainwashing them early to accept this and think it is normal.


107 posted on 12/20/2012 4:14:50 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: concerned about politics
Why? The majority of states voted against it

Correct. This was put on the statewide ballot in California not once, but twice. And both times it was soundly defeated.

108 posted on 12/20/2012 4:17:21 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Those of us who questioned the sincerity of Newt’s claimed embrace of the Catholic faith may now take a few moments to feel smug.

Go for it. When the primaries started, I looked at Bachmann, Cain, Palin, and thought what a great year this was going to be. What could go wrong? Plenty, as it turned out, so I fell in with Newt when it seemed that he was all that was left standing between us and Romney. Yeah, that worked. Newt couldn't overcome his past, and Romney ran away with it.

All we can hope for are better choices in 2016, and that America gets over its addiction to government freebies.

109 posted on 12/20/2012 4:17:38 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I think he’s an excellent candidate. I had written him off myself and was proven wrong by his tenacity. The only question for me is whether the man will run again after his shabby treatment by the GOP.

In any case, he runs again - he has my vote.


110 posted on 12/20/2012 4:17:49 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind. - John Steinbeck :))
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To: Kazan

NOPE


111 posted on 12/20/2012 4:19:51 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

People are sorely mistaken if they believe this is due to his Catholicism. It’s not the first time Newt has demonstrated poor judgment and this criticism of him has been present - since, just about forever.

That being said, now it’s time for us to call his bishop, since he’s playing in our field now. :)


112 posted on 12/20/2012 4:22:15 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind. - John Steinbeck :))
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To: Kazan

Failing to prevent is not the same as acceptance.

It appears that there is no way to prevent the State’s recognizing same sex marriage. Therefore for some purposes I may have to treat same sex couples the same as traditional married couples. But the State can never make me accept the one the moral equivalent of the other.


113 posted on 12/20/2012 4:23:02 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Theo; JCBreckenridge
He is speaking what the GOP knows will be legal because they will not fight it. He knows the talk within the circle and 'the elite' as the GOP put the ONLY ONE candidate that personally married perverts.

Newt was his opponent and fought a good battle so he 'sees' how the republican voters feel - they overwhelming sided with evil Romney and believe Romney's lies/deception about Newt and the other candidate Santorum is a known 'take it for the team, The GOP. He is one of them and will betray those who vote for him every time.

So it's not rocket science for Newt to speak about what he has first hand witnessed.

114 posted on 12/20/2012 4:24:05 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Kazan

Mr. Catholic speaks. Another fraud. I really do hate the “if you can’t beat em, join em” mentality.


115 posted on 12/20/2012 4:25:05 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Kazan
I was just gonna say --- is this the Newt Gingrich folks were saying is a "real conservtive" --- unlike Mitt Romney?

Even the penguins and the bonobos know that when the male of the species attempts to mate with another male's anus, it's not a "sustainable" situation. I guess our beloved America going to have to crash right thrugh the floor before we realize that that self-satisfied, self-defined, self-serving sex is not the way to create really flourishing children, families, or societies.

116 posted on 12/20/2012 4:25:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Kazan

Newt Gingrich said that conservatives will have to accept marriage equality after three more states this year voted to allow same sex marriage and more will likely do the same in the 2014 election.

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Blow it out your poop chute, Mr. Married Three Times. Sorry, but you don’t get to weigh in on matters pertaining to marriage. Not from a conservative standpoint. And certainly not if you say we have to accept it.

The RINO Party might accept it. But then - they are irrelevant.


117 posted on 12/20/2012 4:25:59 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kazan

I want to forget I ever knew him. At least Romney was a good family man.


118 posted on 12/20/2012 4:26:53 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Kazan

Send this around.

http://www.ionainstitute.ie/assets/files/Trad_Marriage_for-web-1+2.pdf

Preserving Marriage in a nutshell
u Every society has an interest in encouraging mothers and fathers to raise
their own children together
u Every society in history has developed the institution of marriage mainly
for that purpose
u It is this child-centred view of marriage which is enshrined in Article 16 of the Universal
Declaration of Human Rights
u Abundant research shows that the family based on the marriage of a child’s biological
mother and father generally produces the best outcomes for children (See note below)
u Changing the definition of marriage to accommodate same-sex couples logically leads us
to say that being raised by their own mother and father does not matter to children or society
u It is not discrimination to treat something that is unique in a unique way, and marriage as
currently defined is uniquely pro-child
u While it is obviously true that not all married couples have children, nonetheless it is equally
true that every child has a mother and father
Note: ‘Research clearly demonstrates that family structure matters for children, and the family structure that helps the most is a family headed by two biological parents in a low conflict marriage’

– Marriage from a Child’s Perspective
(A Child Trends Research Brief. This is a summary of many studies about marriage and its effects on children)
(Research showing that children do as well when raised by same-sex couples is based on very small samples and the
samples are usually not randomly chosen)


119 posted on 12/20/2012 4:27:20 PM PST by amihow
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To: Kazan

“Holy Matrimony”


120 posted on 12/20/2012 4:27:30 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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To: presently no screen name

And it’s people like you whom are directly responsible for throwing the nomination to Romney, and re-electing Obama.

Newt folded to Romney who folded to Obama. Some of us saw it coming. Others, like yourself, continue to cling to the fable that if only Newt were at the helm, things would be different.

No, they would be exactly the same. Newt won 2 states, and none which did not border Georgia.

Perhaps someday you’ll open your eyes and realize, “gosh I was wrong.”


121 posted on 12/20/2012 4:28:55 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind. - John Steinbeck :))
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To: Kazan

Sorry Newt old buddy. I’m an “old school” American. I don’t have to “accept” **** from anybody. Too old to join you pixies in Fairyland.


122 posted on 12/20/2012 4:29:48 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: LibWhacker

BTTT !!

could not possibly agree more!


123 posted on 12/20/2012 4:30:21 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Kazan

We always knew that newts are slimy.


124 posted on 12/20/2012 4:31:13 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: jjotto
"Also overlooked is that Gingrich has drifted ever more leftward since he enjoyed the under-the-desk ministrations of the pious Catholic Calista, for whom Gingrich converted to Catholicism. "

BINGO. I noticed the same thing. These things also very obviously affected his softness on Illegal Immigration. While I used to love Newt back in the early-mid 90s, when he stood firmly for Limited Government, I could barely STAND either him or Santorum during this past primary election.

Santorum has the same II problem. And I never even KNEW that he made that statement about Zimmerman! But it should not be too surprising, I suppose.

125 posted on 12/20/2012 4:32:34 PM PST by NH Liberty ("For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus..." [1 Timothy 2:5])
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To: wolficatZ

I’d like the Kenyan and his ‘RATS to look at that picture and try to tell me that guns are the problem in America. I’d have to call him a Fluken liar. Guns are not the problem. The sick people living here are the problem.


126 posted on 12/20/2012 4:34:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

“Those of us who questioned the sincerity of Newt’s claimed embrace of the Catholic faith may now take a few moments to feel smug”.

Exactly, and I guarantee you Gingrich will catch so much static for this lapse in judgement, he will backoff and issue a statement claiming marriange is AND AWAYS WILL BE a man and women and conservatives can never buy into the liberal mindset.

He needs to read the Cathecism of the Catholic Church to see what it says about sodomite “marriage”.


127 posted on 12/20/2012 4:39:07 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Kazan

Ok, Newt, you passed the GOP-e’s “speelunking” school and you are now accepted as an official “caver”!!

You are clear to run for office again as a Republican!


128 posted on 12/20/2012 4:49:33 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: sport

Marriages have to be consumated. The couples become one.
Since a man does not a vagina, does consumating the marriage mean engaging in the perferted, filty, abnormal, disgusting act of anal sex?

How do the lesbians consumate their “marriage”. I guess the “man” in the “marriage” straps on a rubber dildo and pretends to be a real man. How sick is all this. And Newt Gingrich supports this type of immoral behavior. These creepy, sick in the head perferts can pretend they are “married” till hell freezes over but it will not make them any more “married” than the man in the moon. God weeps. PS: When will Newt get a gig on PMSNBC?


129 posted on 12/20/2012 4:50:13 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Records of Arabs encountering Viking traders in the far north in 920AD record that among the Norse people, not only was homosexuality nonexistent, they seemed puzzled and confused as to how such a thing could possibly exist.

And these were PAGANS, mind you, Odinists, followers of a bloody war god that demanded they die weapon in hand. And yet it was a culture that apparently never sought to twist what was the obvious natural order of things.

And here in a supposedly Christian nation we are “sanctifying the union” of sodomites on altars dedicated to Christ?

On the day of judgement, who do you think will fare better? The barbarian who recognized the natural order of God and worshipped amiss in ignorance, or the “Christian” who plainly knew God’s will and celebrated sin in places dedicated to Him?


130 posted on 12/20/2012 4:54:39 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Vigilanteman
Romney is massively worse than Gingrich, Romney is so hard left, and heck, he GAVE us homosexual marriage.

Even during the campaign Romney was promoting the homosexual agenda, saying that he would not interfere with Obama's implementing Romney's goal to homosexualize the military, and Mitt restating his desire for homosexual Scout leaders.

"For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponent’s record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will."

"One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.
As we begin the final phase of this campaign, I need your support more than ever. By working together, we will achieve the goals we share for Massachusetts and our Nation."

Sincerely, W. Mitt Romney

131 posted on 12/20/2012 4:56:29 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“People are sorely mistaken if they believe this is due to his Catholicism”.

You damn right. No faith is more against queer “marriage” than the Catholic Church. It is called a “grave intrinsic evil”. Gingrich knows this. He’ll back off the statement. Mark my words.


132 posted on 12/20/2012 4:59:08 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Kazan

Same-sex “marriage” is in every family?

Really, Newt?? What have you been smoking?


133 posted on 12/20/2012 5:03:32 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Kazan
To all the 'Newt for Prez' people on this forum who mercilessly attacked me and a few of my good friends for trying to warn you...

WE TOLD YOU SO!

135 posted on 12/20/2012 5:04:17 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Kazan

Sorry Newt: I don’t have to accept a damned thing.

You may and the rest of the world may, but gay marriage is just a cover for the perverts, and I for one will never accept it.


136 posted on 12/20/2012 5:06:24 PM PST by Venturer
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To: stars & stripes forever

Because the figure of 3% is BS.


137 posted on 12/20/2012 5:08:26 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Kazan
Gingrich: Conservatives Will Have to Accept Marriage 'Equality'

Nope. I won't. Ever.

138 posted on 12/20/2012 5:09:55 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Kazan; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; narses; Jim Robinson
Newt is simply wrong about accepting it. If murder becomes the norm, do we just accept it? This is just about the most shallow thinking I've ever heard out of this man.

He might be right about society moving in that direction, but he's wrong even about accepting that. It is like moving toward communism. Just because we are doesn't mean it is good. And, just because many are sheeple followers, doesn't mean we should be.

Accepting unnatural marriage will render the culture itself dangerous to our children. Unnatural behavior is death-bringing itself, and unnatural marriage puts society's seal of approval on it.

That is, Sodom.

Luke 17: 26“And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:27they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.28“It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;29but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.30“It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.31“On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back.32“Remember Lot’s wife.33“Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.34“I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.35“There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left.36[“Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.”]37And answering they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.”

In fact, Newt's accepting the "since everyone's moving that way" logic means:

1. That any belief he has is negotiable depending on which direction society is moving.

2. That he wasn't the one I had hoped he had become. He remains a utilitarian despite his conversion. Callista better watch out.

139 posted on 12/20/2012 5:10:24 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Kazan

he likes ot be in the DC eltist cocktail crowd so he has ot say this to be invited.

If this is marriage equality then do we accept muslims having 4 wives?

No he won;t accept that because the elitist crowd isn;t made up of men with 4 wives, instead its made up of a bunch of turd pokers and strap on wearer pretending to be guys

I couldn;t careless if my family are the last people on this earth I will nor my family accept their crap feces kind of sex as normal.

Maybe if Newt and others had talked about normal fmailies then we would not be here , they wanted sodomy laws gone and then homo;s do not have a mental disease then it was civil unions , then marriage, then teach it to kids, and every frigging time our cowards say alright


140 posted on 12/20/2012 5:13:23 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Kazan
...reported Huffington Post.

Can someone provide the context...call me skeptical, but I don't think the HUFFPO is always a reliable source.

141 posted on 12/20/2012 5:13:44 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kazan

Accept? I don’t accept Obama as President. I don’t accept gay marriage. I may not be able to do anything about it but I don’t have to accept anything I detest.


142 posted on 12/20/2012 5:17:57 PM PST by plain talk
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To: fattigermaster

Judaism teaches, “The righteous of all nations have a share in the world to come.”

The Seven Laws of the Children of Noah specifically prohibit homosexual sex acts.

The Talmud goes further, noting that non-Jewish societies are given credit for observing all of God’s Seven Laws if they meet three conditions, one of which is that they do not recognize homosexual ‘marriage’.

(The others are respecting the Torah and prohibiting the sale of human tissue.)


143 posted on 12/20/2012 5:18:39 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: forgotten man
Didn’t he also marry a much older woman when he was draft age? At that time married men were exempt from the draft. How convenient.

Romney was a true draft evader, even accepting a deferment not available to black men, later switching all that for his presidential run to ""I was supportive of my country," Romney said. "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.""

Newt never served, but was never a draft evader, as his father said, Newt was never military material.

Dr./professor Gingrich was already married by 1962, already had children by 1963 and had his Bachelors degree by 1965 and his PHD by 1971. Even in 1971 he was diagnosed by the draft board as having flat feet and nearsightedness. He isn't someone that was ever a part of the draft dodger efforts.

144 posted on 12/20/2012 5:24:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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145 posted on 12/20/2012 5:26:46 PM PST by narses
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To: Kazan

Why do We the People give the Feds any say whatsoever in any form of a marriage at all?

Isn’t it between a man, a woman, and God? Beyond that who’s to say anything about it?


146 posted on 12/20/2012 5:26:59 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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147 posted on 12/20/2012 5:27:13 PM PST by narses
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To: wolficatZ

Reply to #36

That picture looks rediculous, like a joke at a party where everyone has had a few too many....That is some very serious spiritual sickness going on there considering they are playing that for real...


148 posted on 12/20/2012 5:27:18 PM PST by 3722535r
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149 posted on 12/20/2012 5:28:13 PM PST by narses
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To: fattigermaster

my wife and I were just talking about this and we just said if a state like TX or SC went on it;s own we;re out of FL.

I;m fed up of us ocnservatives being stabbed in the back by this B/S party.

Because he wants in with the eltiist cocktail north east DC crowd he is telling us what we should accept, well F him and the GOP.


150 posted on 12/20/2012 5:30:17 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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