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Why is there no national conversation about the divorce?
American Vision News ^ | December 18, 2012 | Joel McDurmon

Posted on 12/19/2012 7:57:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Amid all of the ridiculous politicization of the gun angle in the wake of Sandy Hook, and even a few calls for a national discussion on mental illness (one more back door for tyrannies, many), why is there so little discussion—or even mention—of what acquaintances of Adam Lanza are calling the turning point in his life: his parents’ divorce?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adamlanza; divorce; moralabsolutes; sandyhook
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To: Mears

Mears, I argue that your case is different because you probably still had the influence of your father in your household under those circumstances. Without knowing you personally, and assuming you are normal, that’s my assertion.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 8:57:34 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: sarasmom

For whatever it is worth, at least the accomplice (the mother who bought the guns and trained the shooter) didn’t survive the fallout. Small comfort to the families of the real victims, but in the northeast accomplices (or murderers themselves) don’t normally get sentenced to death; this one did.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 8:58:25 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: WilliamIII

Indeed, all of the deviants do.


23 posted on 12/19/2012 8:58:35 PM PST by narses
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To: sarasmom
otoh, why is there such criticism of the mother?....she was a good person by all accounts even the family of her ex's....the murderer on his own stopped seeing his own father a couple of years ago....he was estranged from his own brother....

the mother didn't dump the kid in a mental hospital at age 6....by all accounts she tried to keep her son protected yet encouraged him to get out and about....

this murderer was seriously deranged and evil....period....

he btw was barely talking to his mother the last few days before his rampage.....so he himself stopped seeing his own father, and he himself stopped seeing his own brother and he himself stopped talking to his own mother, in who's house he lived....

can we all just understand that this murderer was totally mentally dysfunctional.....end of story....

24 posted on 12/19/2012 9:00:05 PM PST by cherry
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To: sarasmom

where does the father live and where does he work?


25 posted on 12/19/2012 9:00:31 PM PST by malia
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

“I can count on one hand the number of times that a kid lived with both of his biological parents. It is the elephant in the room.”

Actually this was widely discussed in terms of the prison population for several years; even Je$$e Jackson used to lecture young blacks about it (until he had his own “love child” and had to abdicate the throne to Al Sharpton as “King Of All Blacks”).


26 posted on 12/19/2012 9:00:42 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mears

“My father died when we were 5 and 2 and my mother never re-married.There was very little money.”

You did not have the very real issues that divorce brings. Yes you had a great trauma, but it was not one that would lead you and your siblings to blame yourself. Divorce is a particularly nasty and evil trauma. Poverty and the loss of a parent are also very real traumas, but they are different from that of divorce.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 9:01:45 PM PST by narses
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
when something like this happens we try to use logic to explain the illogical and try to make some sense of something that makes no sense at all and form some kind of solution or remedy

there are no answers , no solutions, no remedies

only grief

its hard to believe Adam Lanza was once a kid

dont click here unless you need a good cry

28 posted on 12/19/2012 9:08:20 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: sarasmom; Marcella

Though not confirmed, as so much in this story, I have read that his parents had actually been separated since 2001.

Still, I believe a number of this type of killer (e.g., Columbine) have come from intact families.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 9:12:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Many people get divorces and their kids don’t go out and waste little children. This guy was nuts.


30 posted on 12/19/2012 9:28:56 PM PST by plain talk
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To: sarasmom

>> Are you going to blame the father for this?
>> On what basis?

It’s his spawn.


31 posted on 12/19/2012 9:40:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Mears

I have heard of a study that showed that children raised by a single parent due to the death of the other parent statistically turn about the same as do kids who grow up in a home with both parents. In my cases as best I remember both parents were still living.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 10:06:27 PM PST by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: Gene Eric

Wow. just watched the Bourne Legacy. They give this guy mind drugs and he shoots up the whole office and kills himself. In the movie they say the govt is developing these drugs. I know this movie is fiction..but is it? scary


33 posted on 12/19/2012 10:09:35 PM PST by ground_fog
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To: Controlling Legal Authority; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There it is.


34 posted on 12/20/2012 1:00:00 AM PST by widdle_wabbit
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

...”I have appeared in hundreds of juvenile cases where kids were in trouble with the law. The one constant was this: out of all of these cases I can count on one hand the number of times that a kid lived with both of his biological parents. It is the elephant in the room.”...

Most of those who rule are not interested in the truth, have never learned wisdom, do not know history, and are most interested in control of American lives through government force. It is the age-old lust for personal aggrandizement and power. They would never look at something like divorce because many of them are divorced. Fear and lies are the
methods most commonly used to incite the masses. And, as always, they keep for themselves what they take from others. I totally agree with you that single Mom’s trying to rear children alone is a huge problem in this nation. Father’s, when you can find them, should be made to take responsibility, or else!


35 posted on 12/20/2012 1:04:24 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Marcella

...”The divorce happened when the “boy” was 17, almost 18. He was grown when it happened. He had his father when he was growing up so this is not an absent father case to blame this on.”...

From what we have been told, the shooter’s problems were becoming worse..In situations where these problems are life long, when does the Father’s responsibility end? It is obvious that the Mother, alone, did not make the hard decisions in time to save her own life and those of his victims. Divorce is not easy on adult children, either. From my perspective of knowing lots of divorced people, it seems that adult children, in some cases, suffer as much as the young ones. In this case, we cannot make judgments on this father for he could have been in circumstances which would have made his close involvement impossible.


36 posted on 12/20/2012 1:18:26 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

BIMGO!!! When I read a boy’s name that got into trouble, the mom almost ALWAYS has a DIFFERENT NAME!!! It TRULY is the elaphnt in the room!!


37 posted on 12/20/2012 1:46:32 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Ann Archy

“Why is there no national conversation about the divorce?”

...because without divorce, an entire industry of lawyers would dissolve.

However, I’ve read that, divorced or married, it’s the amount of parental conflict that is the determining factor for the child’s well-being.

But again, it goes back to the lawyer industry. The industry, and the waiting periods that serve to enhance that industry, push trouble couples away from dialogue, and toward inevitable, hostile separations and family breakups.


38 posted on 12/20/2012 2:06:38 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s pretty obvious.

No one wants the party to end, such that people have to face the music of their self-indulgence.

The American public all want to act like ill-bred adolescents with the folks out of the house and yet have it all come out all right in the end.

They can’t be bothered to accept the fact that moral choices have consequences.

“Ooooh, buzzkill, dude!”

So the society disintegrates before our eyes, and this sort of violent outbreak is one of many symptoms, if perhaps the most obvious in its immediate effect.


39 posted on 12/20/2012 2:15:17 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s right to push back at the gun control freaks who are trying to turn this horror to their advantage and take freedoms.

But maybe once we should stop playing their game: Looking for answers, reflexively blaming without knowing anything, seeking political or cultural agendas.

Should people of faith call it what it is? - This shooter was evil, souless, Godless, and infected by the devil.


40 posted on 12/20/2012 2:20:07 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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