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NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term (DTD FEB 10, 2012!!)
The Washington Times ^ | February 10, 2012 | Sean Lengell

Posted on 12/19/2012 12:48:45 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

A top official with the National Rifle Association said Friday that President Obama will move to "destroy" gun rights and "erase" the Second Amendment if he is re-elected in November.

While delivering one of the liveliest and best-received speeches at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said the president's low-key approach to gun rights during his first term was "a "conspiracy to ensure re-election by lulling gun owners to sleep."

"All that first term, lip service to gun owners is just part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment during his second term," he said.

"We see the president's strategy crystal clear: Get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearms' freedom, erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and excise it from the U.S. Constitution."

Mr. LaPierre said the president's two Supreme Court appointees — Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan— are "two of the most rabid anti-gun justices in history." He also accused Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg of being a foe of gun rights.

And with the possibility of two or more Supreme Court justice positions opening during the next four years, the NRA official warned that gun ownership would be in jeopardy if Mr. Obama stays in office.

"If we get one more like those three, the Second Amendment is finished," he said. "It'll be the end of our freedom forever."

Mr. LaPierre, who said "there is no greater freedom than to own a firearm," predicted that gun owners will rally en masse to defeat Mr. Obama in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guncontrol; guns; nra; obama; secondamendment
Wow.. This article is from February 2012. For those who criticize 'tin foil hat' wearers, it's time to be a bit more compassionate.. And suspicious of recent events.

Adam Lanza clearly was not worried what people would think about him or his actions.. He brutally murdered his own mother and 20 harmless, innocent children. Why would he seek to hide what is on his computer hard drive? He left a legacy of evil, so why would he care what was found on his computer?

Who was Adam Lanza corresponding with via his computer? Did someone commandeer his mind via electronic correspondence or messaging to execute this evil plot? Why the destruction of his computer hard drive, the only piece of evidence which could prove this possibility?

Concerning his second term agenda of abolishing the Second Amendment and private gun ownership in the United States, 0bama could not have asked for better justification than the Sandy Hook massacre. Events always seem to just play right into 0bama's hands, don't they..

1 posted on 12/19/2012 12:48:55 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Lifetime NRA member here:

Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment. It can only be repealed by the passage & ratification by 38 state legislatures of a brand new amendment.

Look up the 18th amendment (Prohibition) and the amendment which repealed it (the 21st) and see just how easy that was.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 1:04:12 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

“Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment.”

Maybe the Supremes can. And if they did, it would be knocked down by...um...


3 posted on 12/19/2012 1:07:02 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Hundreds of thousands of new gun owners, many first timers.
Think about joining the NRA and having a collective voice in
retaining your new gun. Finally, buy a lot of ammo. If the SHTF, an empty gun does you no good.


4 posted on 12/19/2012 1:07:44 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: elcid1970

Can he unilaterally overturn immigration laws and openly refuse to enforce federal laws such as DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) without Congressional approval? I’d just be curious to know if he can do that.. Just curious..


5 posted on 12/19/2012 1:09:23 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: sanjuanbob

Buy as many Hi-Cap mags as you can. They will be out of stock for a long time by January 1.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 1:09:44 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Yup, the Biden thing is a joke. The report and policies are already written. They have been, and just sitting on a shelf waiting for an exploitable event to be taken down, dusted off, and trotted out.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 1:13:10 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: elcid1970

Not even with an executive order?


8 posted on 12/19/2012 1:31:36 PM PST by sarasota
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To: elcid1970

Not even with an executive order?


9 posted on 12/19/2012 1:31:36 PM PST by sarasota
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To: tanknetter
Yup, the Biden thing is a joke. The report and policies are already written. They have been, and just sitting on a shelf waiting for an exploitable event to be taken down, dusted off, and trotted out.

Overturning laws is easy. Confiscating 300 million weapons? Not as much.

10 posted on 12/19/2012 1:35:58 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; elcid1970
Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment.

Can he unilaterally overturn immigration laws and openly refuse to enforce federal laws such as DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) without Congressional approval? I’d just be curious to know if he can do that.. Just curious..


You are RIGHT ON. The WH clown has already "tested" the Congress on many occasions and the WH buffoon knows Congress does not have the backbone and will do NOTHING to stop him. All he has to do is write an EO no matter how unconstitutional it is. Sheeple in America give up a rousing cheer for "their Lord and Savior".

IMPEACH NOW, WHY WAIT?
11 posted on 12/19/2012 1:39:13 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: elcid1970
Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment.

Of course not, but he doesn't have to. An executive order can effectively ban any number of defined firearms or ammunition without even touching on the 2nd Amendment.

Taxation is another means of limiting ownership of firearms or ammunition, just look what they did to the tobacco industry and the current smokers.......

...and how many firearms enthusiasts supported the government on their attack on smokers? One only has to look at the tobacco threads to see how many current members had no concern for them.........

12 posted on 12/19/2012 1:46:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Cheerio

I’ll have my guns as long as I am alive.


13 posted on 12/19/2012 1:47:02 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Cheerio
IMPEACH NOW, WHY WAIT?

What's with this? Do you not know who the Speaker of the House is? My Noodle Spine himself. Do you actually believe that the House would move on something like that? If, by some miracle, it did, what are the chances of a trial and removal by the heavily-DemoRAT Senate?

Goodness, get real.

14 posted on 12/19/2012 2:04:29 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The president can make an Executive Order (EO) to ban weapons but an EO is subject to a lawsuit just like a congressional act.


15 posted on 12/19/2012 2:36:45 PM PST by Liaison
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To: elcid1970

You can dilute it until it is effectively repealed, because it cannot be enforced. That’s what all those court cases are about. New constitutional rights are invented, old ones disregarded or studiously ignored. It was like that back in the beginning, with the Alien and Sedition Act.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 2:41:40 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Or just tax it to death like leftards do everything else they disapprove of.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 2:48:26 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Confiscating 300 million weapons? Not as much.

Easier than you think...If I posted a notice here that the BATF has sent me a letter stating that several of the firearms I own are no longer legal to own and that if I do not turn them in they will come to my house to confiscate them, will you leave your job and drive to my house to help me make a stand? Not likely, instead the thread will become an argument board filled with false bravado from some and others who would criticize me. That's just the way it is.......

How many of the current members here remember Randy Weaver and Waco and how many of them came to their rescue?

Many folks here talk a big story but I'm sorry to inform you it's an "all men for themselves" mentality now since everyone has jobs and families that come first before helping some poor schlep who is under attack by the govt.......

18 posted on 12/19/2012 2:50:49 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

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19 posted on 12/19/2012 2:54:59 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: elcid1970

Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment.
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We can always count on John Roberts!


20 posted on 12/19/2012 3:01:42 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Hot Tabasco

“BATF has sent me a letter stating that several of the firearms I own are no longer legal to own and that if I do not turn them in they will come to my house...”

Just how does BATF know that you have them? Because you signed a 4473 at the point of initial sale? There’s no law requiring you to report having sold or otherwise disposed of them. At least for now, got it.

They’re not registered. In order to have a registration law, there must also be a deregistration law.

This isn’t UK or Australia. Or Nazi Germany. Not yet.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 3:13:48 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: OldPossum

Yes, I know. It makes me feel good to say it. But in all honesty, what would be an impeachable offense with this buffoon, AND this Congress? Really?


22 posted on 12/19/2012 3:31:01 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: elcid1970
Just how does BATF know that you have them? Because you signed a 4473 at the point of initial sale?

Does your statement mean that you're coming to my defense when the BATF says they coming for my semi-autos? That WAS the intent of my post in case it went over your head........

So what's your answer? Can I count on you or not?....LOL!

23 posted on 12/19/2012 3:41:13 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Yeah but the principled thing to do was stay home and not vote for Mitt.

And I do not put the democrat machine beyond the ability to manufacture a mass killing of children to fulfill their goals.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 3:42:34 PM PST by soycd
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
"Adam Lanza clearly was not worried what people would think about him or his actions.. He brutally murdered his own mother and 20 harmless, innocent children. Why would he seek to hide what is on his computer hard drive?"

Maybe he didn't want the authorities to find his gay porn and the whole world to learn he was a little faggot in addition to being a cowardly child killer?

25 posted on 12/19/2012 3:49:37 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I was just talking about that the other day, I unfortunately live in the totalitarian state called New York city under Despot Mike Bloomberg, and since day one I said this guy Bloomberg is going to keep upping the ante because the people say absolutely NADA when he issues decrees, and that is exactly what he’s done.

Now last week he is looking to ban smoking in residences. That’s right in YOUR PRIVATE RESIDENCE you cannot smoke. And if that ain’t bad enough, he also wants landlords to send lists to the city of the people who smoke in the apartments they rent. I don’t even have to guess next he’s going to demand smokers wear an “S” on their arm and have his boys paint “S” on the windows of store owners who smoke.


26 posted on 12/19/2012 3:52:53 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Now last week he is looking to ban smoking in residences.

I've said this many times, people talk the talk but in reality, if it doesn't affect them directly, they don't give a rat's ass about what happens to you......

There will never be a civil uprising nor will there be a civil war as long as the computer cowboys have jobs and families to protect............

27 posted on 12/19/2012 4:02:49 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

How did Hitler do it???

He was legally elected also.


28 posted on 12/19/2012 6:48:37 PM PST by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: elcid1970
Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment. It can only be repealed by the passage & ratification by 38 state legislatures of a brand new amendment.

Oh, for crying out loud!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, [the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, etc.]."

Become a Declarationist - you'll sleep better at night.

An elitist scum like Obama can issue gun edicts for the peasantry from behind his battalion of Secret Service agents armed with submachine guns all he wants. It doesn't change the immortal words of the Declaration.

29 posted on 12/19/2012 7:37:55 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Hot Tabasco

What’s to stop people from reporting their guns as lost or stolen? There will be an enormous black market for weapons. Guns will be as easy to purchase as pot.


30 posted on 12/20/2012 2:40:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; Yehuda
Events always seem to just play right into 0bama's hands, don't they..

Yes, so I am very interested in why he would purposely be acting in such a way that he knows will make guns fly off the shelves.

Reminds me of the scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence says, "From the landward side, there are no guns at Aqaba."

What is Obama's Nefud (the direction from which noone would previously approach)?

31 posted on 12/20/2012 2:55:36 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: elcid1970
>>>Not even Obama, much as he would no doubt like to, can simply `erase’ a Constitutional amendment.

Sure he can. He waits (and socialists are VERY good at being patient) until he had 1...maybe 2 more seats on the courts open up...and replaces them with people like Ginsberg or Kagan. Then...there is another challenge to the 2nd...like Houston v Moore; Maxwell v Dow; Poe v Ullman; Laird v Tatum or Perpich v DoD. It is then determined that the phrase "a well regulated militia" means the military....in spite of 200 years worth of USSC findings and the writings of the framers.

I have always found it funny that so many liberals spew the militia=military not individual right mantra when it has been CLEARLY established by the supremes...OVER AND OVER again...as early as 1820 (when some of the framers were still alive and didn't dissent to this interpretation)...that the second is for the individual. I mean, there has never been a question...except in the mind of the leftist.

32 posted on 12/20/2012 3:27:33 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Exactly. It does not stop the criminals now and most cannot just walk into a gun store and purchase a firearm. I’ve heard of guys selling brand new autos out of the trunk of a car in NYC. Cash and no paperwork.

The crooks use full autos not the one shot/squeeze again crap they try to pass off as military weapons the gun stores sell.

They will use up a lot of postage sending out letters and then will start wasting agents time by trying to track own and locate all weapons.


33 posted on 12/20/2012 5:14:43 AM PST by USAF80
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To: elcid1970

He can strangle it to death by directing the BATFE to stop processing all paperwork via EO.
Considering it takes decades to work RKBA issues thru the courts, he’s not worried.


34 posted on 12/20/2012 5:21:18 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2

Not even Obama operates in a vacuum.

He may now be unaccountable to the electorate, but his fellow Dems in Congress aren’t.


35 posted on 12/20/2012 5:28:39 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

“So what’s your answer? Can I count on you or not?...”

I really don’t think you will be singled out unless there is something we don’t know about you.
I remember Waco and Ruby Ridge as well.
In answer to your question, if they start a sweep in my neighborhood my house won’t be the first. I will come to the aid of the Guy down the street. It will be painful for a lot of young “agents” until they learn their lesson and change their minds.
Yes I really mean that...


36 posted on 12/20/2012 6:36:16 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Hot Tabasco

BS. After the first couple happen and it hits the internet people will stand their ground and BATF boys will start getting shot. Unless you can go to every one of the 40 million households or more that have one at the same time you won’t get it done.


37 posted on 12/20/2012 7:06:08 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

This is why they want control of the internet. They will shut down all comms so we would not be able to organize or warn our fellow patriots.


38 posted on 12/20/2012 8:16:12 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Hot Tabasco
Sounds like a simple letter would be enough to make ya dance on the head of a pin.

If things ever go south, I'd bet the rent you'd turn on a dime.

Easier than you think.

The question is, what would you do, not some neighbor down the street...I think the answer to that is inordinately clear and I believe you're correct, you'd be real easy. An easy subject.

39 posted on 12/20/2012 8:58:56 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
What’s to stop people from reporting their guns as lost or stolen?

Likely the same reason you haven't yet reported yours lost or stolen to your local law enforcement agency.........

40 posted on 12/28/2012 2:32:38 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Resolute Conservative
BS. After the first couple happen and it hits the internet people will stand their ground and BATF boys will start getting shot

So where were you when Randy Weaver and his family were under seige? That was certainly all over the headline news as well as the internet.

Or the Branch Dividians for that matter?

Nobody came to their rescue........

Like I said, it's every man for themselves and nobody is going to give a rip what happens to YOU nor YOU for Them.......

41 posted on 12/28/2012 3:17:02 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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