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Speaker Boehner: "Mr. President, It's Plan B or Be Responsible For the Largest Tax Hike In History"
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Posted on 12/19/2012 12:08:21 PM PST by Perdogg

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1 posted on 12/19/2012 12:08:25 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

The SCOTUS ruled 0bamacare is a TAX. Isn’t 0bamacare the LARGEST TAX HIKE IN HISTORY? WHY DO YOU FORGET THAT, BOEHNER?


2 posted on 12/19/2012 12:11:46 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Perdogg

Ace of Spades might be the only place Boehner can get his word out. The other news networks are doing the usual full court press on behalf of the Democrats.


3 posted on 12/19/2012 12:12:16 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Perdogg
What massive spending cuts are attached to plan B, or are the freeloaders once again being given more toys to help them get through nonbusy days?

We're not being undertaxed. We're being over spent. Remember?

4 posted on 12/19/2012 12:13:04 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Perdogg

The mantra of all repubs should be “WE CANT TAX OUR WAY OUT OF DEBT”. Say it loud and often because its true. Make the RATS respond to it because they CANT.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 12:14:50 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Perdogg

To Obama-worshippers “the biggest tax-hike in history” is a good thing.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 12:14:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Perdogg

finally! Who lent Boehner a spine?


7 posted on 12/19/2012 12:15:27 PM PST by Mom MD (Liberals are slinkies. Good for nothing but they make you smile when you push them down stairs.)
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To: Perdogg

“Then the President will have a decision to make. He can call on the Senate Democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in American history.”

It’s the set up from mid-court so Hussein can slam-dunk it to us.

Hussein WANTS to be known for the “largest tax increase in American history”.

Big Media still worships the Great Clinton for HIS, and credits him for saving the economy with it.

FUJB and your god Hussein, too!


8 posted on 12/19/2012 12:15:32 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Perdogg

I loved Boehner’s brief speech. He just put it out there and then walked away.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 12:15:32 PM PST by Faith
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To: Perdogg

I don’t like plan B at all. First of all, fine lower Social Security by 140 dollars a year. However, I don’t hear a damn thing about lowering welfare receipients 140 dollars a year. Ingrates!!!!


10 posted on 12/19/2012 12:18:04 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“The mantra of all repubs should be “WE CANT TAX OUR WAY OUT OF DEBT”.”

How about “If you can’t pass a budget FOR YEARS, how dare you posture and tax us for ANYTHING???


11 posted on 12/19/2012 12:18:11 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Perdogg
Screw Plan B. I will go with Plan A - do nothing. I look forward to seeing the bottom rate increase by 50%. For too long, those people have not been paying their fair share. And I especially look forward to enforcing a cap on the debt ceiling so that this Administration can no longer get a blank check from the Fed. Why wait around for Lucy to pull back those promised spending cuts? Do nothing, and we automatically get $1.1 trillion in cuts THIS YEAR.

Boehner needs to take a vacation, and stay gone until the end of March. Until then, tens of millions of Americans will see a 50% increase in their taxes. Maybe then they will begin to give a damn about who they elected to be President.

12 posted on 12/19/2012 12:19:08 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Perdogg

Plan B or tax and spend.


13 posted on 12/19/2012 12:19:22 PM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Perdogg

“- - - “Tomorrow the House will pass legislation to make permanent tax relief for nearly every American — 99.81% of the American people. Then the President will have a decision to make. He can call on the Senate Democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in American history.” - - - . “

I am STUNNED! Bawling Boy Boehner stood up to Commie Hussein Obama!

[Now if Boehner can just keep from caving-in - - - ].


14 posted on 12/19/2012 12:20:44 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Communal Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Perdogg
This is all we have and it is being played beautifully! I know here at FR there are a lot of Boehner - dislikers (hate to say “haters”), but we have to shift this back to Obama best we can. This is the only way to do it and be able to pass it in the house.

I'm a fan of the cliff. Even bigger fan of shutting it down in Feb when the debt ceiling needs raising. In the interim, at least, we put something reasonable on the table.

Its all a PR game at this point. No way there is a deal the GOP can stomach. I'm all for this tactic. Hobsons choice!

15 posted on 12/19/2012 12:21:02 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: Mom MD
"Who lent Boehner a spine?"
unfortunately; you maybe mistaken, SotH Boemher is engaged in "optics"
he's taking a fingernail chipper to a gunfight.

16 posted on 12/19/2012 12:21:25 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“The mantra of all repubs should be “WE CANT TAX OUR WAY OUT OF DEBT”.”

I like mine better because we need a catchy bumper sticker like phrase that directly counters Obama’s strategy.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 12:21:25 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: napscoordinator

I have to keep repeating myself. The offer was made with the complete knowledge that it would rejected. In poker terms, 0bama and Pelosi’s bluff were called. I am no fan of Boehner, but why focus on Boehner? Obama said raise taxes on millionaires but now is rejecting it.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 12:23:06 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

I know it’s popular to beat up on Boehner around here....and I too do not like any of the deals he’s trying to make. However, that all said....I think he is trying to preserve as much of the GWB tax rates as he possibly can and achieve at least some degree of spending restraint.

He has a VERY TOUGH hand to play. The fact that the GWB tax rates were set up to expire within ten years gives him a nearly impossible hand to play. It doesn’t help that BHO was re-elected and that the Dems increased their numbers in both houses of congress.

ANY voter who votes Democrat is voting for higher taxes, more spending, and bigger deficits and bigger government. This is what the voters want, this what they’re going to get. There is little Boehner can do to stop it.


19 posted on 12/19/2012 12:23:40 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Perdogg

Boner Takes a Stand!

In other words, the countdown clock to a full cave has started.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 12:24:00 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: dan on the right

I have been trying to explain this to some, but people seem to have missed this.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 12:24:21 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Obama will be proud to pass the largest tax hike in history. And he’ll keep on spending and hiking until the US is kaput.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 12:25:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Hoodat

not only that, but the people that got tax refunds that did not pay any tax at all, will not only not get that, but will end up paying instead...

most affected will be younger people ( who mostly voted for fubo ) single mothers ( who mostly voted for fubo ) and lower wage earners ( who mostly voted for fubo )...

I cannot wait to hear them scream... then when they say it is not fair, i will tell them that instead of 47% not paying taxes, it is now only about 18%..

everyone will be getting hit, how much more fair can it get?

hell, most of these people were not even out of junior high school during the clintoon years..

all I will have to say to them is, “Welcome to my world, pal”...


23 posted on 12/19/2012 12:26:27 PM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: Mom MD

Plan B has no chance. It will also not change the poll numbers for responsibility. This is actually funny though and I am not sure it could ever happen. This is the one time where Free Republic and the far left agree. Go ahead and go off the cliff. The left thinks Obama has gone to far already. So I guess the question is, do the deal or jump? I think jumping would hurt the republicans more. Passing plan b is kabuki and everyone knows it.

I’ll bet, including me, many wish last years deal or grand bargain would have gone through. Instead we let the perfect be the enemy of the good and gambled on the election. Now any deal done will be far left of that.

We gambled on Mitt Romney. Just let that sink in for a while.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 12:27:11 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: Perdogg

Republican Mantra needs to be “IT’S THE SPENDING, STUPID”


25 posted on 12/19/2012 12:27:27 PM PST by Mr. K (Sign: "Gun Free Zone- Criminals: This Means You!" <-- democrap thinking)
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To: Jim Robinson

The GOP should leave town and make Obama own it one way or the other.


26 posted on 12/19/2012 12:27:37 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

House Repubs all falling down, and getting concussions, taking time off might work better.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 12:29:13 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Perdogg

We can’t make him own the economy that he caused for the last 4 years, how are we going to make him own some intangible future event?


28 posted on 12/19/2012 12:29:43 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you don’t pay taxes,why care if the rate goes to 100%. No skin off your freeloading nose.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 12:29:49 PM PST by Tail Gunner John
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To: Perdogg; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :””Tomorrow the House will pass legislation to make permanent tax relief for nearly every American — 99.81% of the American people. Then the President will have a decision to make. He can call on the Senate Democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in American history”

Now this is how it's done finally. I posted a vanity here recommending this weeks ago

Instead of demanding that the R party be the ones to raise taxes on that 99.8 % of voters, ALL Republicans NOW need to call out O for ‘playing politics with middle class taxes’ by rejecting this extension

Now Republicans need to stop whining about the 0.2% who will see the automatic tax increases, and stop joining Pelosi Dems who will vote against this extension, and instead get on to calling O out for fighting to raise ALL OF OUR taxes by opposing this 'B' bill.

I am really convinced that many just love seeing O win these, but I am LONG tired of it.

30 posted on 12/19/2012 12:30:41 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It would STILL be Bush’s fault to the left and MSM pollutants.


31 posted on 12/19/2012 12:31:02 PM PST by jehardy
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To: skeeter

You’re right it doesn’t matter what Boehner says, Republicans will be painted as the party that raised taxes.

The House Republicans should pass a bill That would re-instate the Bush tax cuts, then pass abill de-funding obama care, then passa bill defunding the czars and all cost of these positions, Then foreign aid to Iran, Egypt, etc.These are but a few there should be more with spefic spending cuts and cut all US funding to the UN. Pass these on and let the democrats do as they will. Republicans need to do what’s right and forget about trying to negotiate with the democrats.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 12:31:20 PM PST by duffee (Newt Gingrich for Speaker)
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To: MrB

Then what is the solution? The only solution is a bad deal over a rotten deal or do nothing.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 12:32:14 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Well, spoken. And remember, all of the "Principled Conservatives" who didn't vote in November to "Send a Strong Message to the GOP!" and handed the Senate and White Hut to Obama and his Pet RATS.

Now, they are lined up to bitchslap the Pubbies in the House.

Typical!

34 posted on 12/19/2012 12:32:44 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Perdogg

It seems that Boehner has been reading my posts...and wants to keep his job.

;-)


35 posted on 12/19/2012 12:33:39 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Perdogg

Oh Pleeeze Tammy Faye. Obama just came out and said he and Boehner are close to a deal. That means Boehner has caved.


36 posted on 12/19/2012 12:35:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Perdogg

I SAY LET SEQUESTRATION HAPPEN!!

NONE OF THESE COWARDS HAS THE GUTS TO CUT SPENDING OTHERWISE


37 posted on 12/19/2012 12:35:57 PM PST by Mr. K (Sign: "Gun Free Zone- Criminals: This Means You!" <-- democrap thinking)
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To: Perdogg

Damn... FINALLY. Now, Congresscritters, pass the effing bill, get it to the drones in the Senate, go home for the holidays and hug your kids!


38 posted on 12/19/2012 12:37:17 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.I am)
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To: Perdogg

The Republicans should take a page out of the Democrat playbook and scream this over and over, “President Obama and the senate Democrats are WAGING A WAR ON CHILDREN by putting all of this debt on our children’s credit cards”.

Not to mention:
1) They refuse to allow school vouchers thereby imprisoning poor kids in lousy schools dooming families for generations
2)What the Democrats ultimately REALLY want is federally funded partial birth abortion.

IT’S A WAR ON OUR CHILDREN!


39 posted on 12/19/2012 12:40:22 PM PST by 12chachacha (Sucker??)
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To: Perdogg

Don’t just say it once, John. Repeat it repeatedly.

The communist from Kenya has a big pulpit. Make every statement about Obama raising taxes...AND HAVE EVERY Republican repeat that in every press event.


40 posted on 12/19/2012 12:44:11 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Hoodat; dan on the right; Perdogg; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; Redleg Duke; Triple
RE :”Screw Plan B. I will go with Plan A - do nothing. I look forward to seeing the bottom rate increase by 50%. For too long, those people have not been paying their fair share. And I especially look forward to enforcing a cap on the debt ceiling so that this Administration can no longer get a blank check from the Fed. Why wait around for Lucy to pull back those promised spending cuts? Do nothing, and we automatically get $1.1 trillion in cuts THIS YEAR.”

My understanding is that this plan does nothing more than extend the Bush rates for <$1M of income for everyone, it doesnt cancel the automatic spending cuts, or extend the debt limit. It is exactly what O doesnt want.

A few weeks ago I posted a vanity explaining that Bohner has to do exactly this.

Republicans cannot make themselves the middle class tax raisers(which O gets to spend yet) , that is suicide. They tried that exactly a year ago with FICA and it was a disaster.

Believe me, if House Republicans take suicidal stances you will hate the terms of surrender to O that they end up signing.

Let Pelosi Dems vote against this, to raise our taxes, that is what they want anyway.

41 posted on 12/19/2012 12:44:38 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

So are you saying you believe 0bama and not Boehner? I am not saying that Boehner is telling the truth. He could be distorting. 0bama is lying.

You seem to be saying 0bama is telling the truth and Boehner is a liar. They may both be liars. But 0bama telling the truth is not possible.


42 posted on 12/19/2012 12:45:37 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“...he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in American history...”

Note to Speaker Boehner: OBAMA DOES NOT CARE. Understand? Let me repeat: OBAMA DOES NOT CARE.


43 posted on 12/19/2012 12:45:39 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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The GOP should leave town and make Obama own it one way or the other.

Exactly. Democrats have railed against the Bush tax cuts for a decade now, using it as the foundation of their class warfare rhetoric. It's time we made them own it.

I vote for Plan A.

44 posted on 12/19/2012 12:47:47 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Perdogg; Hoodat; dan on the right; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; Redleg Duke; Triple
The best part is where I explained what would happen if Bohner did hold the tax cuts hostage:

Here's what the Republican House must do on taxes right now, and what will happen if they don't( 12/7/12 | sickoflibs)

45 posted on 12/19/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Mr. K
I SAY LET SEQUESTRATION HAPPEN!!

I see your $100 billion and raise you $1 trillion more. Forget sequestration. Let's refuse to raise the debt ceiling instead. No more borrowing means no more $1.1 trillion in deficit spending for the current fiscal year. It's time to begin putting the padlocks on some government buildings.

46 posted on 12/19/2012 12:51:07 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Perdogg

Hogwash.

We will go over the fiscal cliff. Then, after about two months of Americans experiencing reduced paychecks, Obama will propose tax “cuts”.

They will then become the “Obama tax cuts” and the words “Bush tax cuts” will never be uttered again.

Obama is not going to budge on this until March.


47 posted on 12/19/2012 12:52:32 PM PST by kidd
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To: Perdogg
One of the attendees at the recent Builderberg meeting was caught on cam commenting about all the protesters that showed up. He said something to the effect that: they're here protesting because we've allowed them to make too much money. Could the man and his comment have a connection to the destructive actions of the fraud in the WH as well as the rest of the POS politicians in DC who clearly refuse to do anything positive for this country?
48 posted on 12/19/2012 1:00:42 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
The fact that the GWB tax rates were set up to expire within ten years gives him a nearly impossible hand to play

Well, the real problem was that in 2010, the tax cuts were only extended for two years to 2012, instead of being made permanent in 2005. And who do we have to thank for that? A REPUBLICAN!

Voinovich opposes Bush effort to make tax cuts permanent

Even when we win at the voting booth, we lose due to "Republicans".

It was also interesting to review some of the debate that occurred in 2010 and some of the votes that were taken:

Tax cut extensions fall short in Senate

(Democrat) House passes bill to extend Bush-era tax cuts to middle class
49 posted on 12/19/2012 1:09:52 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Doesn’t matter. It’s a mantra, just intended to be repeated continuously, it doesn’t have to be literally true, because by the time the correction is explained the eyes of the average voter will have glazed over. We’re finally learning to fight like the left does.

All together now: “LARGEST TAX HIKE IN HISTORY”.


50 posted on 12/19/2012 1:10:37 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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