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EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap
FoxNews.com ^ | 12-18-2012 | Jana Winter

Posted on 12/18/2012 2:34:55 PM PST by servo1969

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”

A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.

Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.

Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school’s principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; fanapt; gunman; lanza; mentalhealth; mentalillness; newtown; sandy; sandyhook
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To: tennmountainman

because her working with “normal” kids brought her a sense of happiness and fulfillment, of being needed and loved, an escape from the reality of Adam, and social opportunities with empathetic adults like the principal, psychologist and teachers

Adam wanted his mother all for himself even if he could not love her and maybe even wanted to escape and become an adult. Or maybe she wanted his independence more than he did

And he hated not ever being one of those kids who brought her happiness and joy. My bet is she shared stories about her “kids” and volunteer activities with this sullen brooding psycho and that helped him hatch his plan


41 posted on 12/18/2012 2:58:56 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: lightman
I’ve known of firearms enthusiasts who have committed suicide rather than be served a mental health commitment and therefore banned from possession.

I worked for years in the ER of a major hospital located in a major city.Our hospital,unlike some,didn't have a psych ward because 1) there was a huge state psychiatric hospital within a couple of hundred yards of our front door and 2) because there was another major hospital located right down the street that *had* one.Anyway,I can tell you hundreds of stories about involuntary commitments to the nearby state hospital.Some went quietly....many most assuredly did *not*.

42 posted on 12/18/2012 3:01:46 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I posted a few days ago that I was speculating this may be what set him off.

Could be Adam figured Mom was getting help from the Sandy Hook school psychologist.


43 posted on 12/18/2012 3:01:55 PM PST by dforest
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To: servo1969

BFL


44 posted on 12/18/2012 3:02:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: servo1969

That pretty much sums it up given what we know at this time.


45 posted on 12/18/2012 3:03:21 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: pepsionice
I would suspect that his father wanted him committed over a decade ago

During the last decade, where was the "father"?

46 posted on 12/18/2012 3:03:35 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: allmendream
Two Christmases ago a good friend of mine almost lost his family to a deranged brother-in-law who was off his meds and started popping off shotgun rounds in the middle of the crowded living room. My friend and several other family members managed to tackle him and wrestle the shotgun out of his hands. Fortunately nobody was hit, but it was a very close call.

The next day I met him at the local gunshop and we were waiting at the door when they opened up. I then helped transport a gun safe over to their house and my friend's sister brought all of the guns over so that we could secure them for her.

47 posted on 12/18/2012 3:03:46 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: servo1969
So, the mother of a disturbed individual taught him how to use, and allowed him access to firearms. Then, while trying to obtain court ordered control so as to have him committed, never considered the need to lock those firearms up to keep them from his access. Yep, sounds exactly the right scenerio to justify banning firearms/s.

This is a parenting and mental health issue, not a firearms issue.

48 posted on 12/18/2012 3:04:20 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: lonevoice
If it’s true that the mother was preparing to have him committed, how did he find out about it?

There are lots of ways a kid can learn things that he's not supposed to know.When I was a kid I knew a *lot* more about household events than I was supposed to know and that my parents *thought* I knew.

More importantly, if she knew her son was a danger to himself and others to the degree that he needed to be involuntarily committed, how on earth did he have access to all her weapons and her car?

A valid question...perhaps even she underestimated how serious his disorder was.

49 posted on 12/18/2012 3:06:52 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: allmendream
A good gun safe cannot be broken into or picked by a young video game playing psychotic med taking doofus.

Assuming the combination is 3 digits, who is to say that over time he didn't see one or more of the digits his mom dialed and figure out the rest? Because people commonly use digits that are easily remembered, might she have made the mistake of setting her birthdate, or something else that a person having close knowledge would be able to figure out?

50 posted on 12/18/2012 3:08:13 PM PST by fso301
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To: servo1969; All
His knowledge of possible committal could have been a triggering event but there was a bigger problem. His uncle stated he was being treated with Fanapt a powerful anti-psychotic contra.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/aspergers-is-a-red-herring-to-explain-newtown.html

There is an extremely interesting Ticker over at Market Ticket dealing with this
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=215059

The drug Fanapt was approved under suspicious circumstances
http://www.examiner.com/article/fanapt-the-rise-and-fall-of-an-antipsychotic
Quote: “
Vanda did none of those things. Instead, in November, they simply resubmitted the drug to the FDA, using leftover data from the original clinical trials.

It was such a jaw-dropping long shot that Vanda’s investors couldn’t get rid of stock fast enough. Stock prices fell below $1, and the company’s worth plummeted to less than cash on hand. At Vanda, there were layoffs and cutbacks, followed by a proxy fight trying to force Vanda to shut down, sell off its assets, and give any remaining money back to the shareholders.

Then, on May 6, 2009, stock analyst Adam Feuerstein observed something strange: “Hell froze over Wednesday night, right before a squadron of flying pigs took to the sky.”

For reasons only clear to the FDA, the new schizophrenia drug had been approved.”

For some reason the FDA approved Fanapt. Then this surfaces
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-05/fda-chemist-liang-sentenced-to-five-years-prison-in-insider-trading-case.html

A corrupt FDA chemist in the drug approval unit makes 1 million from approval of Fanapt and gets caught. Things that make you go Hmmm.

51 posted on 12/18/2012 3:08:29 PM PST by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Yikes! I grew up in a house full of guns - easy access because you never knew when something was going to need killing- but we were all healthy and happy and not a one of us felt the need for any anti depression or anti psychotic medicine.

If someone started acting all crazy - then it would have been time to lock up all the guns in the gun safe. We had one, the expensive guns were always in there.

52 posted on 12/18/2012 3:08:55 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: lonevoice
she possibly discussed with Adam a guardianship arrangement to handle his finances as part of the process of him going away to college and/or living independently, or for finding a supervised setting for young adults. She may have shared research with him, or recommendations for special programs for autistic adults, that she found or that were suggested by the school psychologist

Since Adam was an adult, managing his affairs would involve a legal petition. The ex was apparently quit wealthy to fund a trust for Adam since Nancy was receiving hefty alimony

The school principal and psychologist would have Adam's school records and IEP reports to back up her legal petition that Adam was not competent to handle his own adult affairs. They may also have offered to prepare testimony or be expert witnesses if necessary for Nancy's case, and provided other recommendations of services for Adam

53 posted on 12/18/2012 3:09:27 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: allmendream

My brother in Law has one, and anyone who wants to get to his guns needs a blowtorch.


54 posted on 12/18/2012 3:10:55 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: fso301

Well then she was a fool to not change the combination.

A gun safe that your psycho son who you are trying to have committed has seen the numbers you use to open, or one that has an “easy to remember” combo that is something he could easily figure out - is as bad as not having a gun safe at all.

When you have guns you have a responsibility to keep them out of the hands of psychos.

Lame excuses do not absolve one of responsibility.


55 posted on 12/18/2012 3:13:10 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: tennmountainman
How would that explain why he murdered innocent children?

Irrational anger displacement. In his mind these children represented a normalcy that he believed his mother wanted, but did not have with him. This is a guess, but an educated one.

56 posted on 12/18/2012 3:13:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: servo1969
The very people who made certain that crazy people are free to do as they please!

Exactly.The very people,those fine,compassionate "progressives" who,30 or 40 years ago,saw to it that 75% of this nations public psych hospitals were shut down and who made it next to impossible for a well meaning relative to be granted "legal guardianship" over a disturbed person are at least partially responsible here.My 20 years in health care feature hundreds of stories along those very lines.Disgusting stories...some of which literally end in death and many others that featured incredible,unnecessary suffering.

57 posted on 12/18/2012 3:13:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"Where the hell was his “father”?"

Apparently the jo-mama nixed that as part of the court divorce proceedings.

58 posted on 12/18/2012 3:14:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: pepsionice

The father is a rich and powerful man. If he wanted to do that, whey didn’t he?


59 posted on 12/18/2012 3:14:54 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

His father was certainly not doing his job. If we get into the details of this “amiable” divorce,” we usually find that the husband has just washed his hands and split.


60 posted on 12/18/2012 3:15:57 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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