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Grijalva calls for new gun controls with or without gun lobby after Newtown killings
bizjournals.com ^ | December 17, 2012 | Mike Sunnucks

Posted on 12/17/2012 8:03:44 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., today called for new federal gun control laws in the wake of Friday’s shooting spree in Newtown, Conn. that killed 27, including 20 young children.

Grijalva called for some new actions on who can obtain guns in the wake of the Connecticut killings. He also referenced the 2011 shooting spree in Tucson that killed six, including U.S. District Court Judge John Roll, and severely wounded former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

“The scandalous availability of highly lethal weapons to even the least qualified, least competent and most dangerous among us has gone on long enough,” said Grijalva, whose district includes Tucson, Yuma and Nogales and some parts of the West Valley. “If pro-gun activists will not negotiate in good faith, it is time for the country to move on without them.”

Grijalva’s comments were the strongest on either side of Arizona’s political aisle in the wake of Friday’s horrific events.

Other Arizona elected officials -- ranging from U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., to Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton, a Democrat -- issued statements of condolences and prayers for the victims’ families and loved ones.

The children killed Friday in Connecticut were 6 and 7 years old.

Here is the full text of Grijalva’s statement:

When a man kills 20 children and seven others for no reason other than his own demons, the immediate human response is the same anywhere: deep pain, grief, anger and frustration. In the United States, unfortunately, such a tragedy carries an added weight because it is not unique.

Last Friday will live in our collective memory, just as Aurora, Virginia Tech, Columbine, Tucson and the numerous other mass killings we have endured will live in our memory. We have become a nation overly acquainted with shock and grief.

That grief cannot be the end of our response. With millions of other Americans, I say today that we should stop making emotional room in our hearts for each year’s new round of public shootings and killing sprees. We should resolve to end them rather than accommodate them.

At some point, which I believe we long ago passed, the time comes to stop calling for “a national dialogue” when one side is clearly uninterested in talking. Absolutism in defense of gun violence is no virtue, and we have been cowed by absolutists for too long. When we accept eight or nine thousand gun murders a year as the price of what some people think of as freedom, we have gone too far.

It takes necessary courage in these moments to admit that our laws are part of the problem, and that no amount of emotional healing is going to prevent the next tragedy. The scandalous availability of highly lethal weapons to even the least qualified, least competent and most dangerous among us has gone on long enough. If pro-gun activists will not negotiate in good faith, it is time for the country to move on without them. Sitting on our hands and hoping for the best is no longer an option.

There are plenty of people who believe otherwise. I wonder how they would feel if it had been them at 5 years old.



TOPICS: US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; sandyhookpolitics; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/17/2012 8:03:48 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey, Raul, what will you be screaming when whackos start using cars to run over folks because they couldn’t get one of them ugly guns?


2 posted on 12/17/2012 8:12:20 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yeah. I am waiting for the boy on house arrest in my neighborhood to return to jail. He took a loaded gun on a school bus within the last six weeks. I am guessing that the judge who let the boy go home is a crony of Grijalva. This is in Tucson.

I am waiting for Sheriff Dupnik to find and arrest the armed robber who walked into the Wal Mart grocery here. The number of armed robberies that remain unsolved in Grijalva’s district is growing. My question is whether the armed robbers are or were illegals.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 8:13:07 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So much stupidity, dishonesty, and irrationality in one short public statement.

We should award him something.

4 posted on 12/17/2012 8:13:17 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All

Wow...the House member who is Mestizo Ku Klux Klan/La Raza/MEChA wants to take away guns from WHITE people (which is really what he is saying). He sure does not want to take them from Illegals, MEChA, Mexican Drug Cartels. Grijalva is one hatemonger racist


5 posted on 12/17/2012 8:13:17 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m not going to negotiate at all, Raul.

Get the **** out of my country if you don’t like it.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 8:14:29 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When a man kills 20 children and seven others for no reason other than his own demons

Stop right there, pal. Even with out firearms, the man's demons will drive him to other utensils of slaughter, and just as deadly if not more. Did Timothy McVeigh or the Unibomer need guns?

This nation is too afraid to address issues of mental health Ban guns or whatever, but those demons will go on driving.

7 posted on 12/17/2012 8:18:14 PM PST by oyez (Hell must be a Gun Free Zone.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“If pro-gun activists will not negotiate in good faith, it is time for the country to move on without them.”

Um...we’re the ones with the guns. Ya might just want to talk to us first. We take this “...shall not be infringed” bit rather seriously.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 8:20:43 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This sentence needs fixin':

It takes necessary courage in these moments to admit that our laws emotions are part of the problem, and that no amount of emotional healing new anti-gun laws is going to prevent the next tragedy.

9 posted on 12/17/2012 8:22:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And your Keystone Cops were hopped up on something, one tripped over another, and there was a full scale slaughter of an innocent Marine. It’s only by some complete miracle that the little boy and wife were unharmed (physically).

And you couldn’t be bothered to send protection for Comrade Gabby that day — although you and she’d been whining like good little Bolsheviks for ever about safety.

Clean up your own house, you maggot-filled waste of space.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 8:30:29 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obtuse jacks.

Doctors kill more people each year that guns and cars combined.

Outlaw them first and then get back to me with your absolutist demands


11 posted on 12/17/2012 8:32:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If this La Raza moron wants to impress me, he’s going to have to show a little “outrage” over Fast and Furious. Or doesn’t he care about Mexicans being killed? Hypocrite!!!!!!
Shove it Raul!


12 posted on 12/17/2012 8:35:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In 2012 there are about 312 million people in the USA, 7 of which went mental and committed mass murder. What law could we enact to pinpoint and stop the next 7 evil lunatics out of 300+ million other people?


13 posted on 12/17/2012 8:36:12 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Borax Queen

“Clean up your own house, you maggot-filled waste of space.”

We had a former Japanese exchange student who went on to get a masters at AU in Tucson. He said that some nights the gunfire kept him awake. In Tucson, it’s not “Holder’s People,” it’s “Raul’s People.”


14 posted on 12/17/2012 8:36:25 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He is still a worthless POS.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 8:41:01 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“The scandalous availability of highly lethal weapons to even the least qualified, least competent and most dangerous among us has gone on long enough,”

What's Vice-President Biden got to do with this?

16 posted on 12/17/2012 8:43:23 PM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Dear Raul,
You seen to be under the impression that the 2nd amendment
no longer applies. There is no reason for “dialog” or
“negociations” the wording is plain.
Now if you want to ammend the constitution feel free to
try. But try and go around it and you will find out
that others take it seriously just as our founders did.
Enough to throw off the yoke of tyranny, then or NOW.
Thank you for your time.
T68.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 8:52:17 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: wjcsux

If the illegal aliens weren’t allowed to vote, this lowlife would be mopping floors at Taco Bell.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 8:54:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So, we are expected to give up our liberty because someone had personal demons and should have been in an asylum before this happened!

Remember, THIS IS JUST A GUN GRAB! He could just as easily done the job with a tube fed .22 rimfire and a baseball bat.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 10:13:00 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Dude needs to move to Santa Ana, CA


20 posted on 12/17/2012 11:53:58 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If pro-gun activists will not negotiate

Negotiate what? You liberal criminal apologists allow psychos to run free. When will you do something about it?

21 posted on 12/18/2012 12:03:56 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Gun-Free School Zones Supporters Enable Shootings,
and they shall be responsible for the lost lives.
22 posted on 12/18/2012 12:23:36 AM PST by PieroC (pieroc)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Absolutism in defense of gun violence is no virtue..

He equates defending firearm ownership to defending gun violence. I suppose it stems from a liberal belief that guns in and of theselves stand alone as 'evil'.

23 posted on 12/18/2012 4:05:55 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Americans are better marksmen than his illegal Mexican pets, so this psycho has ulterior motives to ban guns.


24 posted on 12/18/2012 6:26:45 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: vette6387

That’s terrible! I got my master’s there too, but luckily lived in a so-so area. Lots of helicopters overhead every night with bright lights shining into your house/yard, but no gunfire. I can imagine where your exchange student lived (there are a few bad spots like that!).

Too many areas of the country are the proverbial war zones now, thanks to the leftists.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 8:52:17 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If the illegal aliens weren’t allowed to vote, this lowlife would be mopping floors at Taco Bell.


He’s not (even) Taco Bell material.

(Sorry ... I couldn’t resist).


26 posted on 12/18/2012 5:14:27 PM PST by Mack the knife
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