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Can the Republican Party Remain Relevant?
American Thinker ^ | December 17, 2012 | Steve McCann

Posted on 12/17/2012 7:42:56 PM PST by neverdem

Does the Republican Party want to remain relevant? Or are they willing to be cast, by the not so subtle scorched earth tactics of Barack Obama, the Democrats and the mainstream media, into permanent second class status, and eventual oblivion?

The only political weapon, but a potentially powerful one, the Republicans have is control of the House of Representatives. The Speaker of the House thus becomes, by default, the national spokesman and face of the Party. This person is the one sitting alone across the table from the twin juggernaut of Barack Obama and his celebrity persona and the sycophantic mainstream media, with their predisposition against all things conservative.

It is extraordinarily difficult to hold one's own against this two-headed dragon. However, if the United States is to regain its once lofty economic and societal stature, there is no choice as there must be a guerilla action over the next four years to delay and stop Obama's plans to transform America. This requires a Speaker of the House with a persona that is not overshadowed by the President, who is unafraid to take on the media and is able to coordinate messaging with not only Republican House members but other conservative voices. But above all, a Speaker willing to confront Barack Obama directly and forcefully.

The current Speaker, John Boehner, while a decent man and a hard working representative for his district in Ohio, is not the right person for the job at this critical juncture in American history. In a cogent and insightful analysis of Mr. Boehner, Peter Ferrara writes:

Boehner is no match for Obama on the national stage. He cannot press the economic arguments articulately. He does not have a compelling personality. Obama is running circles around Boehner with outrageous falsehoods, and Boehner cannot raise a...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: boehner; fiscalcliff; gop; republicanparty

1 posted on 12/17/2012 7:43:09 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

It needs to be relevant first.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 7:45:17 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: neverdem
All the Republicans have to do for the next four years, is work to overturn rights of the mentally disabled ...

The RATs will never agree, and we can run out the clock on Obama ...

3 posted on 12/17/2012 7:46:25 PM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my Big Gulp !)
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To: neverdem

Boehner faithfully represents the real GOP, which has become a liberal party.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 7:47:42 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 11th_VA

I disagree. Strongly.

The GOP must start fighting strongly for American jobs.

Looks at voting trends. We have been losing votes, for 20 years.

BRING BACK AMERICAN JOBS.

Now.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 7:49:30 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

1 million jobs tomorrow - An armed Officer in every school.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 7:52:04 PM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my Big Gulp !)
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To: neverdem
Can the Republican Party Remain Relevant?

Not as long a Boehner is speaker of the house and all the GOP representatives in the house are without a spine.

7 posted on 12/17/2012 7:52:41 PM PST by doc1019
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To: neverdem; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”The current Speaker, John Boehner, while a decent man and a hard working representative for his district in Ohio, is not the right person for the job at this critical juncture in American history. In a cogent and insightful analysis of Mr. Boehner, Peter Ferrara writes: Boehner is no match for Obama on the national stage. He cannot press the economic arguments articulately. He does not have a compelling personality. Obama is running circles around Boehner with outrageous falsehoods, and Boehner cannot raise a peep to challenge him. Boehner has managed to allow Obama to turn the Bush middle class tax cuts passed by a Republican majority Congress ten years ago into the Obama middle class tax cuts, supposedly opposed by the House majority Republicans.”

In late 2008 I was warning here to get rid of this guy, and then two years ago it was impossible to do because of the automatic R win. My guess is that no one wants his job now.

Not only is Bohner no good at fighting by getting messages out but he is incapable of leading the Rs as a team to beat Dems, But he has shown he is capable of giving in each time after each battle is lost, signing the surrender at each end.

Watch Dems, They pick their battles to get the public on their side against Republicans and then stick together, and beat the crap out of them. And some are strategic paying off after the next election,

So Obama gave in on tax cut extensions 2 years ago (prior lame duck), big victory?? Now being re-elected he can make it into a fight and get Rs blamed for anything wrong. That wasnt possible two years ago.

8 posted on 12/17/2012 7:59:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This just in.

The takers (50.1%) don’t care about jobs.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 8:01:53 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: neverdem

It is dead.

Thanks, bonehead.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 8:03:28 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: neverdem

Is freedom relevant anymore?

What about fiscal responsibility?

What about the family as a unit of our society?

What about free enterprise?


11 posted on 12/17/2012 8:03:59 PM PST by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: neverdem

Who? All I see lately is the Democrat and Dim-lite parties.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 8:09:22 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You freaking Luddite control freak.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 8:14:37 PM PST by DManA
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To: neverdem

No.


14 posted on 12/17/2012 8:19:10 PM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: neverdem
The Republican Party has become milk fed ever since Ronald Reagan was president and it has consistently gone DOWN HILL (Rapidly) since.

What remains is Milk Toast, and a spineless voter base looking for simple answers that don't require hard decisions on their part or commitment to principals of any nature.

In other words, they have become the spineless reflection of the Democratic Party.

15 posted on 12/17/2012 8:21:50 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: neverdem

Newt for Speaker.

YES!


16 posted on 12/17/2012 8:25:11 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: upchuck

What you all don’t understand is that the game is over. The moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites outnumber the producers. You cannot beat Santa Claus. You are under the delusion that if we just had an articulate, dynamic conservative that could sway the sheeple with logic, reason and facts, we could start winning elections again. It’s too late. After decades of liberal infiltration and domination of the educational system, mass media and Hollywood, the frog has been boiled. We are surrounded by Marxist zombies who see nothing wrong with using the government as an agent of force to confiscate our wealth to subsidize their failed social engineering schemes. We have gone from the land of the free and the home of the brave to the land of the free stuff and the home of the depraved.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 8:38:31 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: neverdem

Remain...?


18 posted on 12/17/2012 8:40:13 PM PST by pallis
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To: SVTCobra03

Bump


19 posted on 12/17/2012 8:48:19 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SVTCobra03
We have gone from the land of the free and the home of the brave to the land of the free stuff and the home of the depraved.

Good line. Good rant. Thanks for the post -- but I think you're a bit premature with the eulogy, the elegy, and the embalming job. The American People ain't dead yet.

20 posted on 12/17/2012 9:07:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
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21 posted on 12/17/2012 9:07:53 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: lentulusgracchus
Good line. Good rant. Thanks for the post -- but I think you're a bit premature with the eulogy, the elegy, and the embalming job. The American People ain't dead yet.

So just how do you propose to change this around? Crickets chirping. No, we can't go back to Kansas. The American experiment has passed.

22 posted on 12/17/2012 9:13:07 PM PST by Digger
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To: neverdem

That was a terrific essay...

Until he suggested we support Newt Gingrich for Speaker.

Anyone here remember what Bill Clinton and the MSM did to Gingrich?

That was the beginning of the end for Conservatives.

We have had no national leadership since Newt fell apart under pressure in 1996.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 9:13:25 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: WOSG
Is freedom relevant anymore? Oh, the irony.
24 posted on 12/17/2012 9:32:03 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: lentulusgracchus
The American People ain't dead yet.

Maybe they are dead and just don't know it. Or maybe it's like the government employee said in 1896 that we should close the patent office because everything that can be invented already had been. I like Rush Limbaugh's new line about the American people. He calls them "low-information voters."

25 posted on 12/17/2012 9:36:28 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: SVTCobra03

Yes. The posters who blame Romney, Bonier the Gope ....voter fraud have it wrong. When white single woman are willing to sacrifice economic freedom for free condoms. Its done. Finito. The people are higher then a kite on “tolerance” gay marriage, free condoms and hopium for all.

GDP..unemployment rates...deficits...who cares?
That is until the one group that won’t be argued with and can’t be negotiated with decides enough is enough. Bond and equities traders.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 9:37:18 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tau Food

Boehner may well be the stalking horse for Jebbie in 2016! Boehner is saying everything Jebbie will say again in 2016.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 9:37:48 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Tau Food
Boehner faithfully represents the real GOP, which has become a liberal party.

Agreed. I'm leaving the party. I shoulda done it when they nominated McLAME. The only good thing to come out of that was Sarah on the national stage. Mitt was the confirmation I needed.

28 posted on 12/17/2012 9:46:12 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: SVTCobra03

What you all don’t understand is that the game is over. The moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites outnumber the producers. You cannot beat Santa Claus. You are under the delusion that if we just had an articulate, dynamic conservative that could sway the sheeple with logic, reason and facts, we could start winning elections again. It’s too late. “

Sad but true.

Too many people are saying “Boehner is awful, we need someone better”

NOBODY has explained: HOW ANYONE WOULD ACTUALLY SUCCESSFULLY BEAT OBAMA AND REID AND CHANGE POLICY DIRECTION IN DC.

Nobody. I’ve heard ‘let it burn’ and other BS, but not a single good idea from anyone, pundit, etc. that explains how we could actually GET A REAL DEAL OUT OF OBAMA TO CUT TAXES AND SPENDING.

I’m all ears.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:58 PM PST by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: Theodore R.
Boehner may well be the stalking horse for Jebbie in 2016! Boehner is saying everything Jebbie will say again in 2016.

If Jebbie gets the GOP nomination, I will either vote for Obama, who will most assuredly be running for a third term after being given the green light by the Roberts Court, or for a third party candidate.

30 posted on 12/17/2012 10:15:17 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: neverdem
"Can the Republican Party Remain Relevant?"

..... Honestly people ..... How can it?

Over the past decade the pathetic GOP has, and probably will continually fall for every conceivable trap, no matter how lame, that is set for them. In fact the Grand Old Party has now become nothing more than sadistic entertainment for the Democrat Party and the MSM that, as of Nov. 6th 2012 .... are enjoying their new found mandate to convert America into the Socialist utopia of their dreams.

Apparently on the last federal election .... too many people forgot the old idiom ..... all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to stand by and do nothing. ..... And so they did!! They scream like mighty warriors when they come for their guns ...... but when they came to take away their country and their freedom ......... they turned their backs on her when she needed them most.

And so .... On Nov 6th, 2012 ..... the march to socialism was given a new life while our freedom horribly withered.

31 posted on 12/17/2012 10:29:22 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: neverdem

As long as Democrats educate the masses, entertain them, and deliver the news, its going to be an uphill battle.

Turn this around or the war of attrition attrits us.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 10:52:45 PM PST by marron
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To: Huskrrrr

Needs to study Ronald Reagan.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 11:04:13 PM PST by oyez (Hell must be a Gun Free Zone.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Best post on the thread.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 11:07:48 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: neverdem

Nope. It lost that name when it nominated romney.


35 posted on 12/18/2012 3:50:37 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: All
POINTS TO PONDER

Latino groups are throwing their weight around---saying they launched massive voter drives and threatening US lawmakers with retaliation if they dont get immigration laws passed. Now threats probably cause corrupt federales to cower in fear----but in America"

IT IS AGAINST THE LAW to threaten a US lawmaker----

it is illegal to use threats to get legislation----and,

it is illegal to use tax-free n/p status as a voting club.

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This is more stupidity from the Third World infecting our culture. Stupids do not know how to navigate democracy and are undermining it.

N/P latino groups should be rigorously investigated to determine (1) the source of funding,(2) whether foreign govts subsidizee their activities, (3) penalties for using tax-free n/p status as a voting club, and, (3) the scope and dimension of lawreaking WRT latino vote drives.

CONTACT

IRS toll free 1-800--829-1040

FBI TIPS https://tips.fbi.gov/

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THIS KIND OF THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF POST-CIVIL WAR Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders to the South ----were prominent in politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from the Red Shirts and White Liners -----white paramilitary organizations, then-described as "the military arm of the Democratic Party", working openly to violently overthrow Republican rule, using intimidation and assassination to turn Republicans out of office and suppress freedmen's (former slaves) voting.

The Republican sheriff of Yazoo, Mississippi, received a brief flurry of national attention when insurgent white Democrats took over the county government and forced him to flee.

In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator--wrote to Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northerners for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

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WHAT'S THIS? Moochelle Ohaha recently stated that the minority vote was "supressed". So I guess latinos lied--- they did not reelect Ohaha after all.

ROTFL.

Moochelle is reliving the post-Civil War period----it’s not uncommon for some in the minority community to believe that the white establishment (Republicans) uses its power to slander and destroy minority politicians who threaten the status quo......

Snide remarks about the “invisible and permanent powers-that-be” (Republicans) trying to take down minorities...... is a sentiment some minorities bandy about when they try to justify (what they deem) is their lowly status.

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Voter fraud is the Chi/mobs' specialty---Ohoho, Mrs HoHo, Mayor Rahm, Axelrod, Valerie whatsherface---these are the kingpins of corrupt Chicago politics. The Ohahas/Chi-mob werre unleashed on the 2012 election----and they delivered..

At one time, conscientious FEC investigators verified money was coming from legal citizens....but the Ohohos will NEVER allow investigatioLet us not forget----the minute they hit the WH, the Chi/mob went into action: the mob took over the census---they have all the CV they need to file phony FEC reports.

People donated to Ohoho who had no idea they were financing his reelection.

Were stolen federal dollars falsified as campaign contributions? There are billions unaccounted for in Obama's "stimulus" packages.....$18 billion disappeared just in NJ. The Ohaha criminal kingpins had tons of money stashed away for 2012.

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FREEPER ACTION MEMO In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator-- wrote to then-Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northern invaders into the post-Civil War south for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

We need to get someone with integrity----like Cong Allen West (not reelected)----- to write letters to his colleagues, and to the media.

Cong West needs to do the following:

(1) to decry the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by latino groups,

(2) to expose latinos using hatemongering for personal gain,

(3) to emphasize the illegalities WRT threateing the US Congress, and,

(4) to precpitate investigations into fraud and intimidation upon our electoral/legislative system by these hatemongering groups.

36 posted on 12/18/2012 4:33:23 AM PST by Liz
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To: sickoflibs; neverdem; doc1019; SVTCobra03; lentulusgracchus
Boehner would fight if the average Joe Blow Congressman wanted him to.

Joe Blow Congressmen see little upside in a fight for principles that would bring a deluge of critical media scrutiny on their heads.

Joe Blow Congressman will not fight for conservative principles until he gages more upside to fighting than downside to shutting up and going along.

Joe Blow Congressmen will not fight until we force them to.

Nothing can possibly change for the better until We The People put max heat on the GOP. Copy rants at FR and send to our Congressmen. They will respond if enough of us let them know their jobs are at stake. There is no reason in the internet age to not be a virtual penpal with those who can do so much to destroy our society and freedoms.

37 posted on 12/18/2012 5:14:12 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie; Impy; neverdem; doc1019; SVTCobra03; lentulusgracchus; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
RE :”Nothing can possibly change for the better until We The People put max heat on the GOP. Copy rants at FR and send to our Congressmen. They will respond if enough of us let them know their jobs are at stake”

Seems like O, Pelosi and Reid did a great job teaching them that lesson this past election, Dems picked up seats in both Houses when just a year ago there was talk of the GOP taking control of the Senate.

RE :”Joe Blow Congressman will not fight for conservative principles until he gages more upside to fighting than downside to shutting up and going along.
Joe Blow Congressmen will not fight until we force them to”

This congress was great at taking ill thought out stands and fights, trapping themselves and then getting crushed by popular opinion (including their own district voters) and then making a humiliating surrender. A perfect example was the FICA fight exactly a year ago. House Republicans backed themselves into a corner on that one and were forced to crawl to O.

No, Republicans do not need more self imposed humiliation. Instead they need to learn how to beat Dems. And that does not come by getting (taking) the blame for shutting down the government, defaulting on debt, raising taxes on middle class. Victory comes from getting voters to blame O for those things. You get O on the run and even the RINOs will follow.

Bohner is not a fighter, he is crier. Now Pelosi is a real fighter. She is twice the man Bohner is.

38 posted on 12/18/2012 5:44:57 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Can the Republican Party Remain Relevant?”

Remain?? REMAIN???? I don’t recall in my life time the R party being relevant? What have they stopped? NOTHING
What have they advanced....the other side!


39 posted on 12/18/2012 8:12:41 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
RE :”Remain?? REMAIN???? I don’t recall in my life time the R party being relevant? What have they stopped? NOTHING
What have they advanced....the other side!”

just wait till they take up ‘immigration reform’ next year to create even more Dem voters. Obama will be king after that fight.

McCain and GWB never did explain how they would get those dreamers to vote R.

40 posted on 12/18/2012 8:22:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

“just wait till they take up ‘immigration reform’ next year “

Some jack ass talking head on the Sunday show regarding the shootings said we must have “comprehensive gun legislation”
....anytime I hear ‘comprehensive’ I know it means nothing good!


41 posted on 12/18/2012 10:34:37 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: neverdem
According to this one - (Myself).....! NO -- Without question - NO

I have been faithful for these many (Many) years and even more faithful to my faith and belief in the principals that once was the Republican Party.

I say again "NO" for the heart and mind of those in said Republican party of today and yesteryear, it is long dead.

42 posted on 12/20/2012 9:26:35 AM PST by jongaltsr
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To: AuntB
“just wait till they take up ‘immigration reform’ next year “

Their next bill of consideration should not be immigration but "Mass Exodus" not only of the party but of the country from which we are quickly desirous of leaving and finding true freedom or that which comes more closely resembles that we remember from our earlier years and childhood.

43 posted on 12/20/2012 9:27:01 AM PST by jongaltsr
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