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Adam Lanza's Mom Pulled Him Out of School: Relative
ABC ^ | RANDY KREIDER | RANDY KREIDER

Posted on 12/17/2012 11:01:45 AM PST by fungoking

The aunt of Connecticut shooter Adam Lanza said the shooter's mother pulled him out of Newtown's public school system because she was unhappy with the school district's plans for her son. Adam Lanza's mother Nancy, 52, was the first victim of his Friday shooting spree. Lanza shot Nancy in the face and then drove her car to Sandy Hook Elementary School, where he killed 20 students and six adults before taking his own life. Marsha Lanza, who is Adam's aunt and Nancy's ex-sister-in-law, called her former sister-in-law an "awesome ... giving person." She also told Evelyn Holmes of ABC-owned-and-operated station WLS in Chicago that Nancy had once been a classroom aide at the Sandy Hook school. Marsha, who lives in the Chicago suburb of Crystal Lake, said that Nancy had home-schooled Adam after pulling him out of the Newtown public school system. "She mentioned she wound up home-schooling him because she battled with the school district," said Marsha. She did not know when Adam had left school. According to former classmates, Adam had attended the local high school at least through part of 10th grade. Nancy Lanza divorced her husband Peter in 2009, when Adam was 17. p>

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: disorders; education; homeschool; lanza; nancylanza; newtown; sandyhook; teens
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To: fungoking

Left him in public school too long. 10th grade = damage already done.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 11:50:27 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: livius
We have a case of this right in our own family. Mom keeps thinking the kid is going to change and won't stick to any psychiatrist if she is not hearing what she wants to hear. This 20 year old son runs the household and everyone in it is fearful. I don't know where mental illness begins and where bad parenting starts.
22 posted on 12/17/2012 11:50:32 AM PST by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: livius

“Mothers of mentally ill sons often become obsessive and overprotective, and it sounds like that was her problem. “

That is very true! The biggest problem was when she introduced that mentally disturbed young man in the business of guns and shooting with guns. She was teaching him how to shoot with guns!


23 posted on 12/17/2012 11:51:03 AM PST by cambyses
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To: cambyses
The biggest problem was when she introduced that mentally disturbed young man in the business of guns and shooting with guns. She thought him how to shoot with guns!

God help us all.

24 posted on 12/17/2012 11:52:58 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Nothing bizarre at all. The facts about the reason she took him out of school have been posted in several places, and I actually have experience working with the mentally ill. The defensiveness and misguided protective efforts (and state of denial) of some parents is well known.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 11:54:20 AM PST by livius
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To: cambyses

She probably thought she was “ channeling his aggression” or something. That said, I’m sure he would have figured it out even lacking her assistance.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 11:58:53 AM PST by livius
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To: fungoking

A child with developmental or personality disorders in the State of Connecticut receives a yearly IEP or Individualized Education Plan. The IEP is generally the product of the school psychologist, social worker and guidance counselor in conjunction with the teachers and administrators at the school. Goals and progress measurements are outlined in the IEP, and it is visited at least a couple of times each year in a conference setting with all the contributors, the parent(s) and a child advocate, if requested. It sounds to me as though the mother did not agree with the findings of the report, and pulled her son.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 12:01:56 PM PST by Ol' Sox
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To: blueunicorn6
What a disappointing post. You do the very thing you complain about others doing. And we didn’t homeschool any of the kids.

I thought I was clear that such a charge against home schoolers WOULDN'T be fair.

Never mind....

28 posted on 12/17/2012 12:16:24 PM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: SoldierDad
The wifey has taught spec ed close to 25 years and I have my secondary cert but honestly I just can't take all the politics in education today. Schools do as much as they can possibly accomplish with the resources they have; but you know, it all starts in the home and we do have massive problems with the family in America. I have seen quite a few kids in my wife's socially/emotionally disturbed class make it over the years, others not. Usually the ones that fail, end up in group homes or worse once the grandparents can't handle the kids anymore; but we have to make a place for these kids in society. We can't just build more prisons and the problems we are facing seem to be getting worse.

I had asperger kids over the years myself in school; that's one group of kids that usually can function if we make a place for them. Freepers should realize the vast majority of these kids are not dangerous and any one of us could have a child with aspergers too.

29 posted on 12/17/2012 12:17:03 PM PST by Eska
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To: the OlLine Rebel
It just ends up seeming silly, as much as liberals’ knee-jerk “see guns must be banned”.

It's not silly to wish for the one thing that could have stopped the carnage and that is often blocked by the same idiots wishing for a thing that can never possibly be (like pie in the sky).

I think we should speak it live it and be beating everyone over the head with it 24/7/365. They're gnna’come for the guns now-and NOT legally. Himself is probably ginning up his “orders” now.

30 posted on 12/17/2012 12:23:00 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: livius

its very sad and he took so many innocents in his sickness


31 posted on 12/17/2012 12:26:20 PM PST by SunnyUsa ( It is error alone which needs the support of government.Truth can stand by itself. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Eska
I think it was completely irresponsible of the media what they did in focussing on Autism and Asperger's with respect to the shooter. There is no verifiable evidence that he was diagnosed with either condition. He may just as easily have had a psychotic break brought about by Schizophrenia. Or, he could have been emotionally disturbed. Or, perhaps he was just evil and a sociopath. There are many possibilities, and for the media to focus on any one thing without any documentation is criminal in my opinion.

I have worked with more than two dozen students who were diagnosed with Autism and/or Asperger's. With the correct program to address their needs, most of them were as successful as their potential allowed. Some of them were quite bright (High Functioning Autism/Aspergers), but had significant social deficits. Most were able to be taught skills to overcome these deficits. NONE, and I emphasize NONE, were ever violent to the point of committing such a horrid act of terror as this shooter.

There was one case I worked on with a student (third grade at the time) who I have often worried about engaging in an act of violence of this type. He was identified as Emotionally Disturbed. At an early age he was torturing neighborhood pets, and tried to BBQ the family's cat when he was age 5. I lost track of him after he ended up in a non-public lock-down program. To this day I recall his name, and his face. I pray I do not read about him in the news.

32 posted on 12/17/2012 12:52:27 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: fungoking
I feel sorry for anyone that accepts this madness as merely a coincidence for what was already known to occur in 0bama's second term; An assault on the 2nd Amendment. Once mocked and insulted, tin foil hats are now something to be proud of!

0bama's assault on 'big oil' in his first term was bolstered by BP's oil rig explosion. GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

0bama's assault or 'gun grab' in his second term is bolstered by the murder of kids, using "assault weapons".. Want more? Okay, he was home schooled! GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

0bama's been doing what he does best on Benghazi.. RUN OUT THE CLOCK!! Hillary was due to TESTIFY THIS THURSDAY, DEC. 20TH ON BENGHAZI. Uh oh, she's had a concussion and now says she can't testify on doctor's orders.. GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

0bama's reign has been plagued by COINCIDENCES. One after another. At some point you need to rethink mocking those wearing tin foil hats. There's something going on that's far more sinister that VINDICATES WE TIN FOIL HAT WEARERS. That these are NOT coincidences, and are beyond statistical probability as well.

33 posted on 12/17/2012 12:53:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: fungoking

It was the stress of climate change, best to blame owlgore now. ( Me=so sick of looking for reasons to tear up the constitution that has kept us free until 2008, now? it’s fighting for its very life.)


34 posted on 12/17/2012 12:54:33 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: SoldierDad

The problem is when these incidents occur, the media goes on 24/7 blab-a-thon. So they will pump out pretty much anything they can find to fill up the hours. Accuracy is not a consideration at all.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 12:55:23 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation
Accuracy is not a consideration at all.

And, that was obvious from just how much the media reported that was totally wrong in the first 24 to 36 hours after the event first broke. I am so totally disgusted by the liberal news hounds who are only out to get their names recognized, and care nothing about the victims or the families of the victims. I'm also angry at FOX for placing way too much emphasis on the shooter. Show is picture once, if you must. But, then, no more. Stop giving these fame seeking sociopaths so much glory.

36 posted on 12/17/2012 1:04:48 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: fungoking

After reading that article my first thought was is that the real reason he was pulled out or is it that the school can’t handle her son? Being autistic may mean he can do well in math (which he did), but he would not be able to do well in other subjects which was the case. Pushing someone at too young in age, according to development theory, is not a good thing. Nevertheless this child may just very well be strongly mentally ill. Someone who said they were a neighbor to that family said the younger one (when initial reports said the oldest one did it) was the one likely to commit such a crime.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 1:05:50 PM PST by annajones (Please Act)
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To: livius

I tutor kids one-on-one. There are moms whose kids are headed for a world of trouble but who will NOT see it. “I know he seems rude, but he has been very tired.” (Naw, he has a rude mouth; any parents on first?).


38 posted on 12/17/2012 1:10:43 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: livius

agree!!!


39 posted on 12/17/2012 1:38:52 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!! STILL!!!)
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To: fungoking
Beslan

Israeli Schoolchildren murdered sorry there are NO You Tube videos of Israeli school children being terrorized BUT key on such and you will find all sorts of "pali" schoolchildren being terrorized by the IDF and more Israeli school children terrorized daily

Hutus vs Tutsi murders, mostly machetes

Rwanda schoolchildren murdered

Janet reno terrorized a Cubano kid, sent him packing

Janet reno kills 17 children .

< a href="http://youtu.be/5_rk3RP5KQs"> Progressive Roosevelt incarcerates japanese children

Heavens Gate, new tennis shoees cult

allah orders murder of children, but you won't find the poisonings and killings of children on You Tube

Rav Kook slaughter of children by al Fatah pali

Aftermath of SCarab spring in Egypt, Copts mainly>

Muslims murder 43,students,Boku Haren in Nigeria

Australian break ins and horrid crimes up since gun control instituted

Nigerian gunmen murder 26 in Nigeria

Has gun control worked in Australia? Snopes( biased me thinks) say yes, worked great. But crime continues to rise in Australia

All of the above can go on and on and on. This horrid, HORRID attack by a sick man killing so many innocent children is terrible in all ways. But please think if anyone can( I know FReepers are smart folks) what will happen, when our rights are remooved completely, then attackwatch.com, flag.gov will not be mocked it will have simply been a [premature idea but will be enforced if we do not counter this madness with logic and reason. Then again, look at logic and reason in the 1600 page,"You first have to vote on it before you can see it,"bill.

40 posted on 12/17/2012 1:47:29 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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