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Boehner offers to take debt limit off the table
Washington Post ^ | 16 Dec 2012 | Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane

Posted on 12/16/2012 5:20:21 PM PST by Hoodat

House Speaker John A. Boehner has offered to push any fight over the federal debt limit off for a year, a major concession that would deprive Republicans of leverage in the budget battle but is breathing new life into stalled talks over the year-end “fiscal cliff.”

The offer came Friday, according to people in both parties familiar with the talks, as part of the latest effort by Boehner (R-Ohio) to strike a deal with President Obama to replace more than $500 billion in painful deficit-reduction measures set to take effect in January.

With the national debt already bumping up against the $16.4 trillion cap set last year, Congress risks a government default unless it acts to raise the debt ceiling in the next few months.

Many Republicans had argued that party leaders should use the threat of default to demand additional spending cuts from Obama. But Boehner’s offer would head off that potentially nasty fight — at least until the end of next year.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; boehnercollapses; boehnerfolds; debtceiling; fireboehner; fiscalcliff; loser; lott2; payupwhitey; traitor; whatshisprice
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Boehner just folded. This was his ace in the hole, and he just surrendered it. The Republic is lost.
1 posted on 12/16/2012 5:20:35 PM PST by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

They have surrendered tax cuts AND debt limit.

wow. for what exactly?

No deal woud be better


2 posted on 12/16/2012 5:22:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Hoodat

What a fool.


3 posted on 12/16/2012 5:22:30 PM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Hoodat

No balls Boner. He’s just a stiff old prick.


4 posted on 12/16/2012 5:22:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hoodat

Bonehead is no leader. He is an appeaser.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 5:23:25 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Hoodat

I swear all we’re missing from 1930s Germany is the White House fire - ie reichstag fire.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 5:23:59 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hoodat

There is no GOP. We are on our own.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 5:24:37 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Hoodat

The Speaker has been giving and giving trying to reach agreement - what has Obama done - nothing - he just stands there in his emporor’s pose waiting for Boehner to kiss his gluteous maximus. Enough is enough!!


8 posted on 12/16/2012 5:25:46 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: GeronL

better be for no AWB and no dream act.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 5:26:00 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals)
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To: Hoodat

AND THERE IT IS.


10 posted on 12/16/2012 5:26:00 PM PST by servo1969
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To: Hoodat
Boehner simply must be replaced in January or the GOP can give up even the illusion of being an opposition party.
11 posted on 12/16/2012 5:26:11 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Hoodat

Would love to have 1 hour with Bonehead at a Texas Hold-em table.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 5:26:18 PM PST by AU72
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To: Hoodat

Oh boy!

The GOP is a plate of awesome with a side of awesome sauce and awesome cream for desert!

MMMMMM MMMMMM.

What the Hell would we do without these guys? Good thing we pay them so much and donate so much money to them, otherwise we could not have the best and the brightest like old John here.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 5:26:41 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Hoodat

That drunk needs to go.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 5:26:53 PM PST by bergmeid (FUBO)
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To: Huskrrrr

This guy is a Democrat mole.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 5:27:07 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Hoodat

Boner’s afraid that Ubama won’t invite him on any golf outings where they can have some alone time in the bushes behind the back nine.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 5:27:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Hoodat

Boehner is an idiot who is only negotiating with himself.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 5:27:43 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: RC one

He’s not going to as for anything in return except a deal to avoid the “fiscal cliff”. He is a retard.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 5:27:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Wouldn’t the House be a better parallel?


19 posted on 12/16/2012 5:28:02 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Hoodat

That putrid piece of sceptic Obamastuff should be flushed immediately.

Di it.

Now.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 5:28:04 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Hoodat

We are witnessing the death of the Republican party.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 5:28:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
No balls Boner. He’s just a stiff old prick.
22 posted on 12/16/2012 5:28:28 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Hoodat

Obama doesn’t want a year he wants the power to raise the limit at his command. Anyone who didn’t think that the debt ceiling was going to be raised above it’s present value is delusional.


23 posted on 12/16/2012 5:28:28 PM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: Hoodat
This is Washington Post.

I'll wait until Boner announces it before I believe.

24 posted on 12/16/2012 5:29:22 PM PST by eCSMaster (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: Hoodat
When we had a republic, such matters were deliberated in Congressional committees, then the floor of the House and Senate . . .

Now, our Congress is expected to rubber-stamp, to legitimize the diktats of the tyrant Obama.

Don't do it.

25 posted on 12/16/2012 5:29:31 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Hoodat

Good God in Heaven, how long do we have to wait for the Republicans to flush this turd Boehner down the toilet and get somebody with a spine as Speaker?? I can’t take this weakling p.o.s. crybaby anymore!!


26 posted on 12/16/2012 5:29:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Hoodat

fool.


27 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:43 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Hoodat

You just fought a campaign. You lost two big battles. (Senate and Presidency). Yet you still have an intact army with some of your best young troops itching for a fight. Pity they are commanded by a weepy fellow who instead of retreating to high tactical ground in order deliver a definitive counter stroke, he meekly surrenders without a fight.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:43 PM PST by allendale
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To: GeronL
“They have surrendered tax cuts AND debt limit.

wow. for what exactly?

No deal would be better”

To me it looks like Boehner is taking away Obama’s excuses for cutting spending. Don't worry, Obama isn't going to agree to this proposal either because it means real spending cuts. That's Obama’s kryptonite

29 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:57 PM PST by Helotes
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To: Hoodat

Is Boehner willing to crown Obama king? That seems to be the only thing left to do.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:57 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: Hoodat

Sometimes you just have to wonder, what does Obama have on these guys?


31 posted on 12/16/2012 5:31:43 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: Hoodat

Is this guy completely incompetent? Don’t answer that - I already know the answer.

He is offering to give away his biggest leverage to get nothing in return. Not only that, but he is enabling another couple of trillion in debt. For what???

HE HAS GOT TO GO!!!


32 posted on 12/16/2012 5:31:56 PM PST by AC86UT89
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To: Hoodat
How hard is it to just say, "All expenditures begin in the House, here is the deal"

Since no matter what you do, you are damned if you do damned if you don't.... do what is right or get the hell out of the way.

33 posted on 12/16/2012 5:32:37 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: Hoodat

I have probably voted for my last time.


34 posted on 12/16/2012 5:33:10 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Hoodat

Is it possible to get rid of this slime? Like, stat? Recall?


35 posted on 12/16/2012 5:33:10 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: AC86UT89

We see it as incompetence, but it is really that he is being blackmailed having some very drity history he doesn’t want outed. The practice is the basis of democrat operations which neuter the republicants.


36 posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Hoodat

Boehner is a cowardly piece of work.


37 posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:26 PM PST by madison10
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To: AC86UT89

We see it as incompetence, but it is really that he is being blackmailed having some very dirty history he doesn’t want outed. The practice is the basis of democrat operations which neuter the republicants.


38 posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Hoodat

Bye bye Miss American Pie......


39 posted on 12/16/2012 5:35:07 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Ray76

Exactly. Just as Obama is a muslim mole.


40 posted on 12/16/2012 5:36:14 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hoodat

Could we please get a LEADER, that the lib’s don’t have blackmail pictures of?!?!?


41 posted on 12/16/2012 5:36:44 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Hoodat

Never in the history of mankind has the fate of so many rested upon the fortitude of so few...


42 posted on 12/16/2012 5:37:00 PM PST by Errant
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To: Hoodat

Weaper of the House = Cheap suit folded!


43 posted on 12/16/2012 5:37:19 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! (Oathkeeper))
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To: GeronL
wow. for what exactly?

No pictures will be released?
Boehner will keep getting invited to the right parties?
Boehner is a sleeper agent who has been activated?

44 posted on 12/16/2012 5:37:56 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Hoodat

I really hate the GOP


45 posted on 12/16/2012 5:38:29 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Hoodat
The Republic is lost.

The Republic was lost long before Boehner offered to push the debt limit fight off for another year.

Obama has won twice now. He RAN on raising taxes AND spending gobs of money we don't have. The public approve of him. Worse, the public not only like him, they WANT to continue to like him and give him every benefit of the doubt. The American public is primed to blame Republicans if their taxes go up, and all the GOP feels it can really do now is avoid a catastrophic political defeat. The American people are simply NOT with us.

Yes, we have the House. Some take solace in that. The ugly truth is we held that purely due to gerrymandering. More people voted for a Democratic House candidate than a Republican one - by over a million votes.

We've likely already crossed the tipping point. There are just too many takers and non producers voting themselves more freebies. Our immigrants don't care about this country by and large, and simply vote for the socialist candidates they voted for back home (Mexico mostly).

So no, Boehner isn't the main problem. He's not charismatic and not persuasive, but it is unlikely anyone else could take over and do much better at this particular point in time. The problem is, the public agrees with Obama and the Democrats more than us. There is not a silent majority of traditional Americans out there ready to rise up and save the republic. That time has passed. We are a European social welfare state now, and will likely follow Greece's path down the crapper.

46 posted on 12/16/2012 5:39:06 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Hoodat

Hey...as long as Boehner’s golf handicap is still in the single digits... everything is fine. Puke.


47 posted on 12/16/2012 5:40:39 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Helotes

Maybe he’ll call for an Obama dictatorship


48 posted on 12/16/2012 5:42:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: OneWingedShark

i debated and thought o-hole’s den of snakes would work better for their false flag, burning the first black president out of the house Lincoln lived in.


49 posted on 12/16/2012 5:43:09 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hoodat

Johnny Bendover. The leader for losers!


50 posted on 12/16/2012 5:43:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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