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Mental Health Advocacy Gone "Nuts"
MindFreedom ^

Posted on 12/16/2012 8:16:34 AM PST by txnativegop

The dangers of allowing mentally distrurbed individuals to roam our streets should be common sense. The recent shooting in CT was proof of that contention. However, this advocacy group did not get the memo apparently.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012; adamlanza; guncontrol; lanza; mentalhealth; newtown; politics; secondamendment
MindFreedom web page speaks for itself and the difficulties our society are facing in the future.
1 posted on 12/16/2012 8:16:40 AM PST by txnativegop
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To: txnativegop

Castrate


2 posted on 12/16/2012 8:24:15 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

MindFreedom has a public protest campaign called “MadPride”. They seemingly want psychiatric patients to stop taking their medications.

These people are scary.


3 posted on 12/16/2012 8:28:08 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop
There was a time when people judged to potentially cause harm to themselves or others were committed to mental health hospitals. These facilities were closed by do-gooder liberals mostly in the 1960s.

Ironically, there is a closed hospital like this just 1.5 miles from where the shooting took place.

4 posted on 12/16/2012 8:50:20 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We need to start advocating for such hospitals to be reopened. It might help prevent tragedies like CT. Won’t stop them all of course, but anything is better than what we have now.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 8:57:37 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop

It was Pres. Reagan that forced them out on to the streets around 1985.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 9:01:43 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Time to start hospitalizing them again. IMO


7 posted on 12/16/2012 9:03:27 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop

I agree, and a public policy of “free range” mentally ill people is dangerous and cruel for them and dangerous and cruel for many who come in contact with them. But this started with Kennedy’s Community Mental Health Act of 1963, and since it’s taken 50 years to create the current mess, it’s going to take a while to fix it. If it ever gets fixed. Probably not in my lifetime.


8 posted on 12/16/2012 9:05:33 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

Nor mine either, I’m afraid. However, we have to start somewhere, and it might as well be here.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 9:08:02 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop

If the mentally ill were institutionalized it would reduce the liberal voting rolls, and members of the House and Senate would be unavailable to serve.


10 posted on 12/16/2012 9:08:12 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

And this bad why?


11 posted on 12/16/2012 9:09:03 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: A CA Guy

Maybe someday the realization that Mental Illness of this sort is the definition of Evil.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 9:40:21 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: txnativegop
MindFreedom web page speaks for itself and the difficulties our society are facing in the future.

Don't worry in the future we will have 0bamacare.

It will cure all diseases.

Mental desease will be a thing of the past.(/s)

13 posted on 12/16/2012 9:49:41 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Jack Hydrazine
It was Pres. Reagan that forced them out on to the streets around 1985.

Bull Crap. Reagan wanted to reform the hospitals, not close them. The Democrat controlled congress forced closure on him. The move to close them started by a 60 Minutes episode by Geraldo Rivera on the Willowbrook mental hospital called "Willowbrook: the Last Great Disgrace". This started a big movement by liberals and the ACLU to shut all of these hospitals down. When Reagan was governor of California, the liberals held the budget over his head in exchange to close them down. Reagan's proposal was to just reform the system. It was liberals who shut them down.

14 posted on 12/16/2012 10:47:32 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Dear Mr. Jack Hydrazine,

Get your facts straight.

Reagan was President some 15 years AFTER the liberoids of the 1960’s pushed through de-institutionalization including Supreme Court findings that the mentally ill did not need to take medication until they are imminently dangerous.

You can thank left-wing progressives for the fact that mentally ill people like Adam Lanza are able to carry out their disturbed malevolence.

Not only did President Reagan have nothing to do with this, he was nearly assassinated by one such mentally ill young man.

Sincerely,
Dodger


15 posted on 12/16/2012 11:09:04 AM PST by dodger
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Wow... You would think before posting such an outrageous libtard lie you would actually at minimum check your premise...at that thing called the Internet.....

... Unless you are a troll...


16 posted on 12/16/2012 11:33:43 AM PST by JZoback
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To: TYVets

No Mental disease will not be a thing of the past.

It will simply become the new “normal.” umfortunately.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 11:38:56 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: A CA Guy

Liberals would not hesitate to classify you as insane and lock you up. From the looks of the airports, sexual torture will be a part of it, don’t worry.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 1:04:03 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: txnativegop

If the protestors from MindFreedom don’t mind having the nut cases living in their homes during this drug free process for at least a year, then let them house their cause.
I’m sure there is also an anti condom group for gays out there as well, doesn’t mean it’s going to do good.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 2:55:59 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

That is a crazy thought on your part, so are you therefore part of the definition of EVIL??? Of course not!

Look, these people have problems. The mother didn’t need to allow this mental child to have access to violent video games and it is beyond stupid that she decided that this was the child one should bring to the shooting range so he could become proficient.
Having no success in much in life he became very attached to the world of the violent video games and to one of the few successes he had in life which was shooting his mom’s guns.
He should have been chemically or in some other ways castrated as to block the hormones that hit in the teenage years and this child would have remained IMO manageable as an adult.
Once they start going all off in their own world with the addition of being all sexually charged up they go mental.
Probably spent 7 hours or more a day trying to jerk off to porn and another four hours with video games. The rest of the time he was either sleeping, stalking or threatening others.

It did NOT go beyond me that the brother and dad had little if any contact with this guy.
Chemical or other castration would have IMO prevented the frustration and anger which led to all this death.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 3:02:27 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SaraJohnson

These types of people go super nuts from calm if boys as the testosterone hits in their teens. If they have mental conditions of several kinds they should be permanently chemically or otherwise castrated to prevent their sexual overdrive from taking their crazy to these violent outcomes.

What I am saying is pure logic, nothing to do with how people feel.
If you don’t block these young men’s testosterone from making them more nuts in their teens then you will have to end up jailing all these people which is far crueler IMO.

You wouldn’t want this kind of kid breeding anyway, so I think castration chemically or however you can block the hormones would be the most compassionate way to stop the crazy.

Jail or lobotomy would be far worse IMO.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 3:15:55 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mnehring

Thank you for correcting me on that bit of history! Maybe this mass shooting will move some within the mental health profession to institutionalize people like Lanza.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 3:44:26 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: mnehring

Thinking about it now it did behoove the Leftists to let the nutburgers out of their institutionalization because they could add it to their voter base. The Left is certifiably insane as far as I’m concerned. Just look at our national debt. No sane individual would have let it get out of hand like it has.


23 posted on 12/16/2012 3:52:20 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: JZoback

I for one didn’t know the details on the Left letting the loonies out of their institutionalization. I have always heard it was Reagan’s fault even from fellow Freepers. I’ll double check next time before I repeat hearsay.


24 posted on 12/16/2012 4:16:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dodger

Thanks for the correction!


25 posted on 12/16/2012 4:19:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Sorry about the language. That false attribution bugs me. They blame Reagan for all the homeless because of it and I hear someone say it almost weekly.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 4:35:33 PM PST by mnehring
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To: txnativegop
Hear, Hear - this is a major problem that must be addressed. It is not the guns, it is that we have people on the streets that should be in restricted treatment centers or mental institutions (most are closed).

And, we must have some way to remove these computer killer training programs - that would be the games that promote evil and violence.

27 posted on 12/16/2012 4:48:39 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: txnativegop

“No Mental disease will not be a thing of the past.

It will simply become the new “normal.” umfortunately.”
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Apparently it ALREADY is! Just one example, a recent poll by Rassmussen showing that over fifty percent of Americans approve the job Obama is doing but only forty six percent like the health care act which is supposed to be his crowning achievement and only twenty six percent think health care will improve in the next few years. If you can reconcile those figures please tell me how because it sounds as crazy as Dan Rather to me.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 5:29:12 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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