Skip to comments.How 'genius' honor student Adam Lanza became masked killer
Posted on 12/15/2012 8:45:53 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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Thank you kindly, Ron.
I think this lady was in deep denial. Kinda like people who own wild chimps or pitbulls. There’s reports in the British press folks knew he was really disturbed. I don’t doubt them. No one has rage li8ke this without showing some red flags.
I’m going to say something no one on this site wants to hear DO...this is a watershed moment for gun control. If someone wants a gun buy it now. The 2nd amendment is going to be amended.
Top panel: Three armed guards loading money bags into an armored car:
Caption: ARMED ... Because they value their livelihood.
Bottom panel: Israeli school teacher with rifle slung across shoulder while watching children.
Caption: ARMED ... Because they value their loved ones.
Many mass-murderers kill themselves or give themselves up without challengin armed responders because they don't want to suffer grevious wounds, prolonged recuperation after extensive surgery, or life imprisonment while confined to a wheelchair. That is why these cowards choose to attack the unarmed and helpless in gun-free-zones.
Hmmm, not too smart. You cannot punish a corpse.
I agree with you BIG TIME. Going to my gun shop next week.
Actually, it’s irrelevant.
The second amendment won’t be amended. That’s not going to happen. Most of the state legislatures have to approve a constitutional amendment and that’s not going to happen in the foreseeable future.
Good. Sorry. Later...
Adam Lanza may have killed more children deliberately yesterday than the 9/11 terrorists did--there were a few children on the planes which were hijacked, but the people in the Twin Towers and the Pentagon at the time were virtually all adults--were as many as 20 children among the victims on 9/11?
Before that you have to go back to the attack on the Branch Davidian compound in 1993...but Bill Clinton wasn't pulling the trigger at close range to kill the children like Adam Lanza was. I don't know what the breakdown was for the Oklahoma City bombings, how many were children and how many adults.
You have emotion, and are willing to strip me of my rights in the hope that you can keep some of yours.
I find appeasers to be abhorrant. Take your appeasment elsewhere. It won't sell in a nation of free men.
I agree with you. At the very least, teachers and school administrators should be armed with Taser guns with a 15-foot range and laser sights so they at least have a chance at disabling an armed attacker. In fact, I’ve read that a high-powered Taser gun is actually more effective than a gun at disabling a person quickly. Teachers should be trained in how to use a Taser gun and then hand-cuff the attacker quickly while he’s disabled. Amazing as it sounds, however, Taser guns are actually illegal in many of the liberal states. The liberal mentality never ceases to amaze me.
‘Gun free zones’ are neon sign ‘defenseless victim’ zones. And that’s why I’m armed everywhere I go, including the bathroom.
I’ll fight my way. You fight yours.
But you won’t take my arms.
When people who play Mario Kart start tossing banana peels all over the roads, and kids who play Farmville start cutting down forests and cultivating land all over the place, then perhaps I’ll think video games play a role.
Not to mention that you can't make me, regardless of the laws you want passed.
Yep .... gun control is coming. 20 little kids at once is too much for the nation to handle. It won’t happen overnight but 20 years from now we will look back and see it was this moment where it started.
Mmm ... you’re not paying attention. You’re smart, you’re responsible. Let’s keep guns in the hands of smart responsible people.
[I just know you will not agree].
I’m not saying I’m for gun control or that it will work. But you know the left ...they are nothing if not patient. They will exploit this like the war on woman or global warming. Did you ever think it would come to the point where a Sandra Fluke could get the federal government to mandate the Church to buy condoms?
I was thinking out loud, which in my own case has nothing to do with, and is quite apart from my fearlessness. I like my idea better than the inaccessibility of gun locks and safes where no one can get to them. There are disadvantages enough to choose from in all cases.
Tasers should be in the array of weapons of school security personal, along with many others.
If people are looking for a way to “prevent this from ever happening again”, then it is time to fortify the Hell out of schools, as well as other fish in the barrel type soft targets sought out by these cowards.
If we refuse to defend our weakest targets, then we are going to be hit again. It is just a matter of time.
I want armed, armored men around the schools. Every school. I want those men supported by plain clothes security systems operators. I want hardened classrooms, with steel doors and locks. I want steel plates in walls. I want an emergency firearm in a box in the classroom accessible by the teacher via access code.
I want the schools to have greater defenses than banks or even jails.
If people want to address this problem in a serious way that will have visible results, then this is the way. Other typical solutions of taking freedoms of those who did nothing are simply power grabbing politicians, and I will not go along with that at all.
I’m tired of playing this game. The solution is to arm. Peace through strength. Idiots like Willie Nelson can kiss my ass. My guns are for self defense and the defense of those whom I love. At this point I have to view any attempt to take them or any talk of taking them as a direct threat.
No safes, locks, or owner recognition codes.
No, I didn’t. I still believe that will be struck down upon appeal.
Do I think it’s something we should take seriously? Yes.
I still think folks see this call for more gun control to be contrived.
We shouldn’t ignore it though. We should do our best to counter the efforts.
I am paying attention. And all your handwaving doesn't distract me from the fact that you advocate taking my rights to try to preserve some of yours.
“Is there something common about random mass killers? Something they share?”
YES, They all played violent video games. If the government is so set on banning something they should start with violent video games. There is absolutely no redeeming value to these games. They serve to desensitize people to death and killing and to teach them to shoot fast and accurate. The Columbine shooters,the Virginia Tech shooter, the Gifford shooter, the movie theater shooter, the mall shooter and yesterdays school shooter are all described as “gamers”.
glad you figgured that part out...
Read the thread.. I have made it clear that everyone needs to adjust according to their circumstances.
I’m calling you out. You’re drunk, or you are looking for an argument. You are a fool!
So sad you missed it.
He didn’t own guns Bunny... his mother did. He killed his mother and stole her guns to use in the crime. A perfect example of why gun control simply does not work and never will work.
I’ll put forth this thought. Maybe if we can’t trust a person with guns in society due to mental illness, maybe that person shouldn’t be out in society at all. If a person is such a danger to himself and others, maybe we need to institutionalize that person... for his safety and the safety of others.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Governments banning things, any things, always leads to bad results.
It's illegal to kill children. He did it anyway. He's dead.
Making more laws is feeding into the socialist, statist morass that will eventually drown you.
Serious question. Did Obamugabe win a hunting state?
IOW, if someone is *too dangerous* to be in proximity of a firearm, or a gallon of gas or etc, then they shouldnt be sharing the sidewalk with me or my kids...
toddlers with guns dont go on murderous rampages, and no amount of emoting will end tragic/negligent deaths...
I can’t go near this. They may lock me up!
Possibly. You brought it up.
The Republicans won 24 states. I would suggest that more hunting states exist in the Republican camp, than do the Democrat camp. Once again though, any Democrat representing a hunting state is sticking his neck out here. And I think that gives us the edge.
As others have said, we should not be complacent. We need to push back hard here.
I am a mother. I own guns.
If I had a kid who was psychotic I WOULD DEFINITELY consider keeping my guns from my crazy kid. She did not.
It would have saved her life and that of 20 others. So sad.
Prediction is a lot easier then prevention. As regards the "outbreak" of school shootings several common factors link the episodes.
The perpetrators are seen as loners who "don't fit in". They often adopt a "Goth" style of dress. They are the subject of ridicule from the "social" and "jock" cliques and tend to associate only with other "outcasts". They are secretive and spend an inordinate amount of time playing video games. They are often on the high end of the bell curve but avoid displaying their high intelligence. Most importantly, they are often receiving prescription psychoactive medication(s).
I believe the two most important characteristics are the video games which create a false reality and the psychoactive drugs which have serious side effects (deep depression, suicide, extreme anger). The increase in the number and severity of school shooting incidents correlates with the increasingly common use of powerful mood altering drugs. Not every child exposed to these drugs displays adverse symptoms and in many cases the symptoms only become apparent when the drugs are abruptly stopped and the child is left to cope with withdrawal cold turkey.
This needs further study before we allow politicians to stampede us into blaming inanimate objects for committing mass murder. Dumbing down our children is bad enough, now the new normal is doping them up.
“BTW, girls play many of these games and watch many of these movies too.”
Girls, unfortunately, are catching up fast. What about that crazed professor in Alabama? Probably murdered her brother in MA as well. Also, many incidents of truly shocking violence committed by adolescent girls (single perp, single victim)
Was he psychotic? I haven’t heard that.
all this emoting by our friend has me thinkin...did this evil nutjob shoot his mommy, or have they specified how she died ???
Sure, if they want to lose. I’m a gamer - does that mean I’m going around shooting up people?
If he wasn’t psychotic, was he crazy or dangerous? Which one of those would cause you to be more dead?
Shades of so called silly “hate crimes”.
Yes, don’t you read?
As far as I know he had no history of being dangerous. No record. The only thing I’ve read is that his brother said he was autistic.
Well, okay. Let’s go absurdist. Everyone, no matter how insane should have a gun.
Now we agree.
Guys/gals, this was an interesting thread until you got into this petty flamewar. Please knock it off.
You just said, ‘blame gamers’. That’s dumb. Blame mental illness, and I’m not even sure of that either - this was planned and premediated. There might be nothing wrong with the shooter other than being a psychopath.