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Glenn Beck Defends Gay Marriage: Republicans Need To 'Expand Our Own Horizon'
Business Insider ^ | 12/11/2012 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: C. Edmund Wright; trisham; xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; little jeremiah; greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson
Now, back to your gang rape.

That you would direct that at anyone, let alone a female FReeper who has been a dear FRiend to many of us for decades is disgusting.

601 posted on 12/14/2012 12:06:01 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; trisham; wagglebee; xzins; greyfoxx39; little jeremiah; Jim Robinson
My answer is that there is no perfect answer.

No one asked you for a "perfect" answer, they just asked you to respond to the questions put forth to you. Your reaction to any attempt to elicit some kind of meaningful response was to accuse everyone of not having 8th grade reading comprehension skills.

Ignoramuses.

I think that Wagglebee must have been correct when he said you were going to go out and consult your thesaurus. Nice word. More than 4 letters, but conveys the same sentiment.

Now, back to your gang rape.

You are a relative newbie here on Free Republic. Most of us here have been around for at least 10 years and are quite accustomed to debating issues with passion without having to resort to vile and despicable accusations and (in this case) analogies.

That comment is really the lowest of the low. It does show that you are wholly incapable of carrying on a civilized debate on a public forum. You need to go back to your Ivory tower and avoid posting your opinions on a forum where people might have the temerity to actually challenge you or demand that you explain your opinions. You seem wholly incapable of defending your positions without resorting to vile invectives against any and all who call you on the carpet.

You have reached a new low with your "gang rape" comment. But then I get the feeling that you are just warming up.

602 posted on 12/14/2012 12:11:19 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: trisham
That was much more illuminating than many of your previous responses. Did you believe that my post was an attack on you? It was not.

A: I suppose it was, though with due respect, numerous folks have PM'd me that they understood all of this from my much shorter posts. I went overly long on purpose.

B: Yes I did.

C: Then I apologize to you, but my crude analogy was actually applicable and appropriate to the others.

603 posted on 12/14/2012 1:06:32 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Servant of the Cross

Well thanks, but
A: I have it.
B: The first part is not why I’m here
C: The second part presupposes some around here have open minds, which is not the case for SOME of the present company.
D: I’ll peruse it again anyway.


604 posted on 12/14/2012 1:08:59 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: P-Marlowe; wagglebee; xzins; wmfights; little jeremiah; ansel12; greyfoxx39; trisham

So, no one care to update the score after 586?

I didn’t think so.


605 posted on 12/14/2012 1:11:34 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Servant of the Cross; wagglebee; xzins; wmfights; little jeremiah; ansel12; greyfoxx39; trisham

Again, still looking for that new scoring update after post 586. I notice folks skipped that one for some strange reason. Just an oversight, I’m sure.


606 posted on 12/14/2012 1:15:55 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright; trisham; xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; little jeremiah; greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson
Then I apologize to you, but my crude analogy was actually applicable and appropriate to the others.

So, you're sorry for making the gang rape comment to trisham, but you're sticking by it?

P-M was right, you should definitely post someplace where nobody will respond because you seem incapable of civil discourse.

607 posted on 12/14/2012 1:17:40 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; trisham; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; xzins; wmfights; little jeremiah; greyfoxx39
So, no one care to update the score after 586?

Actually, trisham responded. You subsequently accused her of participating in gang rape.

What do you think the score is?

608 posted on 12/14/2012 1:21:46 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; P-Marlowe; xzins; wmfights; little jeremiah; ansel12; greyfoxx39; trisham

Since you guys missed this post when sent originally, and skipped it accidentally, I wanted to help out.

Oh really? Were we even discussing BELIEFS? Or were we discussing strategy and reality? My BELIEF is that America would be better if not a single person was in favor of gay marriage, let alone involved in one. My BELIEF is that gay marriage is wrong, for so many reasons. My BELIEF is that there are cultural consequences to all of us as a result.

I also BELIEVE that millions of Americans do not share those BELIEFS and that includes our current re-elected President, at least four members, and maybe more, - of the Supreme Court including the two youngest members, and probably 55 Senators or more. I have no ability to change this, and I BELIEVE that is true of you too.

Therefore, I BELIEVE that the best way to attack this issue is by way of the states, as well as avenues outside of politics altogether. I also BELIEVE there are other more immediate threats to our freedoms, and I BELIEVE that when we lose those freedoms, we will inherently lose this battle and ALL OTHERS by definition. This is one of the reasons I BELIEVE that the stte route is the best.

I also BELIEVE that this is a complicated and difficult legal and political issue even though I BELIEVE it is a straight forward moral issue. I BELIEVE it is reasonable to have this understanding of it. I BELIEVE in a free society we will never have the legal authority to demand that everyone BELIEVE as we do, since freedom icludes the freedom to be wrong, to a point.

I BELIEVE this was Becks’ point, though I do not KNOW for sure. I also BELIEVE that my BELIEFS are consistent with many others, including Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and many fine Freepers. Again, I BELIEVE this is the case.

I also BELIEVE that some Freepers think gay marriage is the number one issue. I BELIEVE that is their right. I BELIEVE it is foolish and counterproductive for those who BELIEVE that gay marriage is the most immediate issue to condemn those who BELIEVE as I do as sell outs, RINOs, closet gays, closet pro aborts, and so on.

I believe some people we’ve elected are all of the above, but I BELIEVE it is absurd to assume that I, or Reagan, or Rush, or Palin, etc, to be such.
I also BELIEVE that it is intellectually shallow and bankrupt to do so.

And I BELIEVE that I have now made my self clear, though I BELIEVE I had already done so for anyone who was actually interested in having an adult conversation. And as stated, I BELIEVE this entire discussion was really about STRATEGY and TACTICS and not BELIEFS in the first place, and I BELIEVE that those who insist otherwise were looking for a fight, and not a discussion, from the get go.

I BELIEVE they sadly got what they wanted.


609 posted on 12/14/2012 1:25:27 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: wagglebee

Trisham was not the scorekeeper, so that doesn’t count. And of course there were some posts that crossed each other in the response patter, which you should know, but tried to ignore so as to make your point. And of course I apologized to her, which is none of your business to begin with.

But you’re a scorekeeper, along with a few others, so I’d like to see some updates. And keep them in context. Anyone can pull out a few words to mislead, but I need some in context scoring here.

I don’t think you can.


610 posted on 12/14/2012 1:30:58 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright; trisham; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; xzins; wmfights; little jeremiah; greyfoxx39; ...
And keep them in context. Anyone can pull out a few words to mislead, but I need some in context scoring here.

Let me spell this out in the simplest possible terms:

1. YOU accused trisham of participating in "gang rape."
2. YOU LOSE.

611 posted on 12/14/2012 1:34:25 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I’ll take that as I win.

By the way, I did not accuse Trisam of “gang rape” except in the metaphorical form. And of course, you may need a thesaurus or dictionaary for that, so I’ll wait for you to check it out.............ok, back now?

I’ll admit, that was a crude analogy, but it is not the same as making that accusation in the literal form. I then realized that she was NOT part of the metaphorical gang rape, and immediately apologized.

Which brings us back to the truth. You can’t touch 586. A thinking person wouldn’t have needed it, as I was assued through numerous PM’s, but I typed it as slowly as I could.

So, where are the jabs, hooks, scars now?
And quit hiding behind the skirt. It is very Hamas of you to do so.


612 posted on 12/14/2012 1:40:02 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Get the hell off of this thread and stay off!! One more attack by you on any freeper and you get the zot!! Would be best if you just stay the hell off of FR for awhile. I’ll suspend your account for you if you cannot resist the temptation, PUNK!!


613 posted on 12/14/2012 1:44:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; wagglebee

Wagglebee is a gentleman. That may seem an antiquated concept to some, but not to me. He is also a friend, and I would ask you not to insult him.


614 posted on 12/14/2012 1:46:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Jim.


615 posted on 12/14/2012 1:48:06 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; trisham; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; xzins; wmfights; little jeremiah; greyfoxx39; ...
I’ll take that as I win.

In light of your lame posts about the reading comprehension of others, I find this delightfully ironic.

By the way, I did not accuse Trisam of “gang rape” except in the metaphorical form.

How about "circle jerk"? Was that also a metaphor?

Which brings us back to the truth. You can’t touch 586. A thinking person wouldn’t have needed it, as I was assued through numerous PM’s, but I typed it as slowly as I could.

As I already noted, any claims you had to civil discourse evaporated with post 599.

And quit hiding behind the skirt.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

It is very Hamas of you to do so.

It's always just a matter of time before a troll compares social conservatives to the the Taliban or Hamas.

616 posted on 12/14/2012 1:49:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim!

Merry Christmas!

617 posted on 12/14/2012 1:50:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
" Yet the circle jerk crowd around here"----"Ignoramuses. Now, back to your gang rape."

Interesting language, too bad your post 204 to me was removed, it would have been interesting to see your wording about "latent" this and that, of those of us opposing the homosexual agenda, compared with this language.

618 posted on 12/14/2012 2:42:24 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: P-Marlowe

Hey P-Marlowe! Thanks for the ping. Been in Lurkerdom.


619 posted on 12/14/2012 6:05:35 PM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (" Undecided Voter: someone who parades their stupidity as proof of their morality." ~David Burge)
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To: Calm_Cool_and_Elected; xzins; wagglebee; blue-duncan; little jeremiah; trisham; svcw

Hi CCE! You missed the jousting match. Kinda reminded me of our old sparring days on the Cal/Arm wars.

Haven’t seen too many GRPL’s these days. Maybe you could ping them to our Friday Neener Hijack. I would do it, but as you know I am eternally listless.

Post a lawyer joke and you shall receive absolution for your absence from the threads.

The Lord Protector has spoken.


620 posted on 12/14/2012 6:23:34 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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