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Teens Ask for Smoke, Kill Woman When She Replies "Get a Job": Cops
NBC 10 ^ | December11, 2012

Posted on 12/11/2012 9:12:36 AM PST by Hojczyk

Police say three teens charged in the fatal shooting of a western Pennsylvania woman targeted her after she told them to "get a job" when she saw them trying to bum a cigarette off her boyfriend.

Beaver Falls police have charged 14-year-olds Todavia Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez and Kyle Goosby Jr., 13, with criminal homicide and other charges in Saturday's shooting of Kayla Peterson, 22. She was shot at about 3:30 p.m. that day and died in a Pittsburgh hospital two hours later.

Goosby is in custody and his attorney says he was just "in the wrong place at the wrong time" when Velasquez -- identified as the gunman by police and Peterson's boyfriend -- opened fire.

Beaver Falls Police Chief Charles Jones says officers are still searching for the other two suspects.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: djangounchained; sonsofobama; todavia
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To: Hojczyk; Travis McGee

The most common pre-mugging or pre-beating question a feral youth will ask is, “Hey buddy, got a cigarette?” or “Hey, got a light?”

Warning bells should sound if anyone asks you these questions.


101 posted on 12/12/2012 3:03:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: dennisw
"First the claim was made that most whites that are murdered are murdered by blacks which is simply not true."

"You are correct on this but is an irrelevant point."

Since it was the only point I was making, not sure how its irrelevant.

102 posted on 12/12/2012 3:03:56 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: CaptainK

The American press today is chillingly Orwellian.


103 posted on 12/12/2012 3:06:15 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

Sadly, millions of parents from suburbia never learned this, and are too PC-minded to ever pass such lore onto their offspring. So they go as lambs to slaughter when they walk into Realityville, USA.


104 posted on 12/12/2012 3:08:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
I only learned it because of my association with the underworld during my using-days. I would have been just as blindsided.

In fact, that period of education will serve me very well. I saw criminals in the act of planning, or sometimes, debriefing after-the-fact, thier crimes. One stands out:

I was in the drug trap house, and two crackhead chicks had just robbed a room in a Microtel. The black fellow who was critiquing the crime chastised them severely for stealing from a room right across the hall from their room. He remarked, "Man, you don't DO that, they got cameras. You on FILM now, bitch! Next time you call me or **** or #### and we send a hood-n****a in there, he's wearin' a hoodie and a baseball cap and HE does it!"

Criminals think, plan, and operate much as any other group of individuals do. They use common sense, formulate plans, and use their experience to improve their craft. I had always viewed crime as an impulse thing, this was my awakening that this was not necessarily so.

105 posted on 12/12/2012 3:17:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: icwhatudo

I am sorry if I misread you some ways.


106 posted on 12/12/2012 4:15:45 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: dennisw

No problem. Sorry if I was unclear.


107 posted on 12/12/2012 7:01:48 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Hojczyk

Is there anything more offensive in Obamaland than being told to get a job?

They need to pack the jury with 47%ers and get these poor, oppressed children off easy.

do I need a sarcasm tag?


108 posted on 12/12/2012 7:07:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: PapaBear3625

She doesn’t look like someone who would tell someone else to get a job. Did she have a job?


109 posted on 12/12/2012 7:17:37 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: MrB

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lolz


110 posted on 12/12/2012 7:21:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: metalurgist
“I‘m still in shock. I‘m still expecting her to come through the door

That will happen after thet get off for a technicality. Her use of "fighting words" they might argue made the shooting "self defense"... or something... a jury of sheeple might buy it.

111 posted on 12/12/2012 7:27:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: re_nortex

Probably because even though many folks use the Color of Crime data and study, when you Google it you frequently get the American Renaissance link

whatever...AmRen can be contentious and Sam Francis was never loved here by the Mods

but Vdare gets banned too

that one I understand less...Malkin and plenty others link Vdare

it is what it is...the PC stuff here today is a lot less than it was when I started...i remember when being anti amnesty was deemed bigoted

more and more folks know what time it is...no question of that...racialist sites banned or not


112 posted on 12/12/2012 11:30:59 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy
it is what it is...the PC stuff here today is a lot less than it was when I started...i remember when being anti amnesty was deemed bigoted

You left out Alex Jones' InfoWars.com.

We are getting to the point where InfoWars, VDare and AmRen represent mainstream opinion among more and more right-wingers.

113 posted on 12/13/2012 4:17:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: wardaddy

Upon further reflection, I think the reason those sites are unwelcome here is because they are occasionally anti-Semitic as well as being critical of black folks.


114 posted on 12/13/2012 5:31:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: wardaddy; re_nortex
Probably because even though many folks use the Color of Crime data and study, when you Google it you frequently get the American Renaissance link

The reason being that the study was published by "New Century Foundation", who also publishes "American Renaissance". That doesn't make the article any less true.

115 posted on 12/13/2012 5:44:56 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
We are getting to the point where InfoWars, VDare and AmRen represent mainstream opinion among more and more right-wingers

that is because what those folks feared happening is now happening

my grandfather and father were far right GOP in the south way way before it was cool although both refused to join the Citizens Council and were moderate on civil rights but before they each died they expressed fear that what folks they view as white extremists feared was now going to happen along with the path to Socialism and Godless culture

it's sure not hard to see their fears and those of the racists of the time were not unreasonable looking back now

but even they could not see the immigration issue and how basically every minority in the country would align with liberal mostly urban whites to form this hard majority and force this on the nation

that is pretty much where we are now...the canard that as minorities became more prosperous they would get more conservative is just that..a myth

116 posted on 12/13/2012 8:23:59 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy
that is pretty much where we are now...the canard that as minorities became more prosperous they would get more conservative is just that..a myth

The key is that so many have decided that their prosperity is dependent upon the Democrats. Middle-class blacks are thinking that if Affirmative Action went away, they would lose their middle-class jobs, and their kids would not be accepted by good colleges. Plus many work in the public sector.

117 posted on 12/13/2012 9:46:57 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Lazamataz
The most common pre-mugging or pre-beating question a feral youth will ask is, “Hey buddy, got a cigarette?” or “Hey, got a light?” Warning bells should sound if anyone asks you these questions.

It's done for the same reason that a shark bumps an intended victim before biting. You see what reaction you get before committing to an attack. If the target gives an impression of weakness, then they attack.

118 posted on 12/13/2012 9:50:51 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Lazamataz
Criminals think, plan, and operate much as any other group of individuals do. They use common sense, formulate plans, and use their experience to improve their craft. I had always viewed crime as an impulse thing, this was my awakening that this was not necessarily so.

A relatively small number of full-time criminals is responsible for a relatively-large percentage of robberies, burglaries, and theft.

One interesting article

About six months ago, they decided to put a hunch to the test. Janikowski merged his computer map of crime patterns with Betts’s map of Section8 rentals. Where Janikowski saw a bunny rabbit, Betts saw a sideways horseshoe (“He has a better imagination,” she said). Otherwise, the match was near-perfect. On the merged map, dense violent-crime areas are shaded dark blue, and Section8 addresses are represented by little red dots. All of the dark-blue areas are covered in little red dots, like bursts of gunfire. The rest of the city has almost no dots.

Betts remembers her discomfort as she looked at the map. The couple had been musing about the connection for months, but they were amazed—and deflated—to see how perfectly the two data sets fit together. She knew right away that this would be a “hard thing to say or write.” Nobody in the antipoverty community and nobody in city leadership was going to welcome the news that the noble experiment that they’d been engaged in for the past decade had been bringing the city down, in ways they’d never expected. But the connection was too obvious to ignore, and Betts and Janikowski figured that the same thing must be happening all around the country. Eventually, they thought, they’d find other researchers who connected the dots the way they had, and then maybe they could get city leaders, and even national leaders, to listen.

Coming very soon to a neighborhood near you.
119 posted on 12/13/2012 9:59:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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