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Syria: Assad Already Using Chemical Weapons On Civilians Activists
Albany Tribune ^ | 12/10/2012 | Al Bawaba News

Posted on 12/10/2012 12:36:43 PM PST by Braak

Global concerns over Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles grew after U.S. officials this week privately said the regime had begun mixing chemicals that could be used for the lethal nerve agent sarin.

On Saturday, Syrian told the United Nations that it would never use chemical weapons against its peoples and warned that opposition fighters are the ones who could use chemical weapons.

But videos uploaded on the web by activists proved otherwise.

The video showed the destruction caused by what they identified as chemical weapons. They said the fire was caused by a tank dropped from a Syrian warplane and was uncontainable by either water or dirt and was releasing toxic substance as it was bubbling underneath the ground.

In another video, armed opposition captured equipment used as a protection against chemical weapons or gases.

Some media reports said that the substance had been loaded into bombs for warplanes.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Saturday there was evidence the Syrian government could actually employ chemical weapons against the insurgency as an effort to try and contain the conflict which resulted in the death of 42,000 people in nearly 21 months.


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KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; syria; syriachemicalweapons
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It sounds like napalm or WP, but does Sarin or VX have an incendiary component? Could it also be a blister agent? I really don't know.
1 posted on 12/10/2012 12:36:46 PM PST by Braak
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To: Braak

Sorry, but I really don’t care.

Its Hitler vs. Stalin. We should just sit back and watch.


2 posted on 12/10/2012 12:38:30 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Braak

Sorry, but I really don’t care.

Its Hitler vs. Stalin. We should just sit back and watch.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 12:38:30 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Somehow I think that is just what God is going to force the world to do....


4 posted on 12/10/2012 12:41:13 PM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Braak
Syrian Rebels Threaten to Use Chemical Weapons Against Civilians
5 posted on 12/10/2012 12:43:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Lovely, why am I reminded of the old saying “They created a desert, and called it peace.”


6 posted on 12/10/2012 12:45:17 PM PST by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Braak

One of the memes of the left is that WP is a chemical agent. It allows them to make the charge that Israel uses “chemical weapons” against the Palis, when they use WP rounds.


7 posted on 12/10/2012 12:45:23 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Braak

IF WP nor napalm are chem weapons, then HE is a chem weapon. It’s the usual propaganda from Sunni Arab rebels. Besides, if they’re winning, why all the quibbling over something that, pound for pound, is less effective than HE?


8 posted on 12/10/2012 12:47:31 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Braak

IF WP or napalm are chem weapons, then HE is a chem weapon. It’s the usual propaganda from Sunni Arab rebels. Besides, if they’re winning, why all the quibbling over something that, pound for pound, is less effective than HE?


9 posted on 12/10/2012 12:47:49 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Braak
I agree with the napalm or Willy Peter incendiery call. High heat destroys nerve agents so that wouldn't make sense.

If nerve agents were dispersed the container would probably have a bursting charge but it wouldn't be a persistent burn.

10 posted on 12/10/2012 12:49:53 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Braak

I wouldn’t doubt if the MB used it on the general public and blamed Assad.


11 posted on 12/10/2012 12:51:25 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Braak

There would be no point in burning the agent that is being delivered. Heat degrades/destroys the properties of the chemical weapon, eventually rendering it less potent or harmful.


12 posted on 12/10/2012 12:56:35 PM PST by semaj
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To: Braak

This is probably only an attempt to drag the US into their war so we can shed more blood for their stinkin’ caliphate.


13 posted on 12/10/2012 12:57:10 PM PST by dforest
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To: Braak

Let’s see. Assad is somewhat tolerant of Christians and the oppsition isn’t. Let Assad do what ever he wants to stay in power. The fact that Obama is Assad’s and my common enemy is just icing on the cake.


14 posted on 12/10/2012 12:57:46 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Braak

I think “we should stay the hell out of there.”


15 posted on 12/10/2012 12:59:22 PM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

What is WP?


16 posted on 12/10/2012 1:02:04 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: JerseyDvl

White Phosphorus. Does not require air to burn, and will burn until it is consumed.


17 posted on 12/10/2012 1:06:56 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Braak

Oh, those “activists.” They’re such a reliable source of information.


18 posted on 12/10/2012 1:09:38 PM PST by livius
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To: freedomfiter2

Getting rid of Assad would be like getting rid of Hussein (the guy in Iraq, not the one in the WH).

Is Iraq better of today? Are Iraqi Christians better of today than they were under Saddam?

Deposing Assad would only mean the installation of the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria — certainly not much of an improvement over what they have now.


19 posted on 12/10/2012 1:14:41 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Braak

If they want to use Chem weapons on their own people....let them.


20 posted on 12/10/2012 1:16:19 PM PST by O6ret
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To: livius

We have plenty of American ‘activists’ — they’re known as the MSM.


21 posted on 12/10/2012 1:16:44 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Acually white phosphous does require air to burn. The issue is, it will burn spontainiously in air until you seal it from air. Water, dirt, or retardants have no effect. Not a good thing to have on you.


22 posted on 12/10/2012 1:23:17 PM PST by bosco24
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To: ColdOne

“I wouldn’t doubt if the MB used it on the general public and blamed Assad.”

I wouldn’t doubt if the MB used it on the general public and blamed Israel.


23 posted on 12/10/2012 1:25:02 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: bosco24

Thanks for the info.


24 posted on 12/10/2012 1:27:48 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Braak

The need to spread the word that Assad tested the weapons on rabbits. That’s the only thing that would cause international outrage these days.


25 posted on 12/10/2012 1:41:00 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: 353FMG

Exactly, Obama is a greater threat to Christians than Assad is.


26 posted on 12/10/2012 1:43:23 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: ColdOne
I wouldn’t doubt if the MB used it on the general public and blamed Assad.

That's exactly what I'm thinking too, and I wouldn't be surprised if some in our shifty regime is involved also.

27 posted on 12/10/2012 1:53:28 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Braak
But videos uploaded on the web by activists proved otherwise.

Activists made the video. That doesn't mean it's true.
Didn't one of the major news networks (ABC?) fake film footage during the Bush administration showing innocent civilians fleeing for their lives in Iraq? They used the same woman actress running for her life through the street in every clip - even though the footage was suppose to have been filmed miles apart.

In my opinion, Oboma has been drooling to get us into this mess, but knew the American people wouldn't back him. So far, he's tried "thousands of innocent young people are getting killed!" and "Oh no! They're killing women!" and then on to "Oh! Look! Babies, too!".
Americans showed no outrage. It's a civil war. It has nothing to do with us.
So now it's "OMG! WMD's!"?

Sorry. I'll believe it when I see it....... maybe. (The MSM has tried to deceive us before.)

No, this is not our battle. We have bigger problems to deal with right here at home. We can't afford to get involved.

28 posted on 12/10/2012 2:03:06 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: dforest
This is probably only an attempt to drag the US into their war so we can shed more blood for their stinkin’ caliphate.

Yep. They're trying every trick in the book to drag us into this one. So far, the American people aren't falling for any of it. They don't seem to care. Let's hope it stays that way.

29 posted on 12/10/2012 2:07:28 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Braak

http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/report/appgb.html

It has a flammability rating of 1, not too flammable. That does not mean you couldn’t mix it with NaPalm, but what the article is describing does not sound like chemical weapons.


30 posted on 12/10/2012 2:27:08 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes ... good questions.


31 posted on 12/10/2012 2:42:01 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Braak

Well I’m sure its the fault of Bush and racist Tea Party types....


32 posted on 12/10/2012 2:42:38 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: dforest

This is probably only an attempt to drag the US into their war so we can shed more blood for their stinkin’ caliphate.


Put me down for that theory as well.


33 posted on 12/10/2012 2:47:53 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Braak; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot

The liars want us to take Assad out to have an Egypt redux!

I hope Assad slaughters the Brotherhood to the last Beard.


34 posted on 12/10/2012 2:49:37 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: PGR88

totally agree.


35 posted on 12/10/2012 2:51:06 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: Braak
It sounds like napalm or WP, but does Sarin or VX have an incendiary component? Could it also be a blister agent? I really don't know.

Short answer, yes I think so. Problem is containment as far as I remember. I'll ask my daughter as she works in Israel somewhere as a Molecular Biologist( I wish I were so smart) next time she calls. Probably by the time I'm finished with this post someone has given you a real answer not just a memory flash from my aged cobwebbed cranium.

This might be callous, but I'd like to see about three hundred activist screw-nuts get a taste of the c___ola they're actually fighting for whining continuously about. They never show just what hell it is for the other side(s). The only one winning short term is the shining prince of this world running fast because his time is running out.

I remember less than a year ago I posted a murderous battle trying to prove some point that escapes me now about this war Obama has supported via proxies and had quite a few FReepers po'ed and rightly so. But the only ones really getting the raw end in Syria and other areas of the world are Christians, Jews and the weaker muzzards.

I care about the first two groups but after over forty thousand terrorist attacks all over the world in the last decade and seeing them never apologizing, never retreating and continuously tossing out lies and propaganda all I can think of is hell with them. I could care less if they eat poisoned candy when the Jewish buses are blown or they take over Egypt or murder our embassy folks, or murder our Fort Hood soldiers, and no one does a thing.

Spare the children and those women that are enslaved if you can discern between the slave traders and the enslaved but really the hell with the lot of them.

Not very Christian I suppose but I've got no more cheeks to turn. No more patience, no more remorse for these savages that want to kill and enslave the world, none.

36 posted on 12/10/2012 3:08:35 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Braak

Well if it’s posted on the Internet it must be true.


37 posted on 12/10/2012 3:17:06 PM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: concerned about politics

My thoughts also. The rebel terrorists are certainly capable of applying chem weapons on their own and then blaming the govt.


38 posted on 12/10/2012 4:08:52 PM PST by plain talk
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To: PGR88

You can bit President “Hate America” is watching,,all he needs is some stockpiles unguarded (cough cough) and some rebels to blame here in the US (wait,,he’ll blame Bush or the GOP)

Scary times


39 posted on 12/10/2012 4:25:02 PM PST by austinaero
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To: melancholy

Did you see this???? I remember months ago a whole town executed - every man, woman and child (maybe a tiny handful of survivors), the claim was the gov side killed them. Truth was the “rebels” executed tham all, I think they were the “wrong” kind of muzzies. And of course claimed Assad’s guys did it.

If I had time I’d post the below as an article. Just no time...

http://rt.com/news/syria-weapons-opposition-us-746/

Grisly video shows Syrian rebels forcing child to behead unarmed prisoner
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Published: 10 December, 2012, 23:37

A graphic video recently posted to YouTube appears to show Syrian rebels forcing a child to behead an unarmed prisoner. The footage has left many questioning whether foreign aid will end up in the hands of Islamist extremists and terrorists.

The video shows a child cutting a bound prisoner’s head off with a machete. Militants then display the man’s severed head while chanting “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great.”

It’s the latest in a string of especially grisly incidents, which have become more common in recent months. On Monday, rebels killed 13 soldiers during an ambush of an army unit in a strategic northern town, activists reported.

Syrian warplanes later bombed the town, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Both sides have played a role in the deaths of over 40,000 people since the uprising against President Bashar Assad began in March 2011.

(more at link plus video which I cannot watch)


40 posted on 12/10/2012 5:08:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: freedomfiter2

The “freedom wanting” opposition will end up being worse than Assad. Thats how it always works in that part of the world. We help the opposition and they will turn and spit in our faces.


41 posted on 12/10/2012 5:22:50 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Tijeras_Slim
pepper sparay is a chemical weapon

the campus police used chemical weapons on the Occupy protesters , maybe that will justify military action against the USA by Russia [/sarcasm]

42 posted on 12/10/2012 5:27:37 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
pepper sparay is a chemical weapon

the campus police used chemical weapons on the Occupy protesters , maybe that will justify military action against the USA by Russia [/sarcasm]

43 posted on 12/10/2012 5:27:36 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
pepper sparay is a chemical weapon

the campus police used chemical weapons on the Occupy protesters , maybe that will justify military action against the USA by Russia [/sarcasm]

44 posted on 12/10/2012 5:27:57 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Braak

This whole drill is just another “Anti-Muslim You Tube Video” PR effort. Americans and the world are being played for fools.


45 posted on 12/10/2012 5:40:53 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ColdOne

Libyan militia associated with Syrian Rebels launches mustard gas mortar rounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ajiilAgSicw


46 posted on 12/10/2012 5:52:46 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Braak

And just where did these weapons come from???? I wish all the hippies and Bush bashers could be made to watch that video. Realize what we’re dealing with here. Should it be handled regionally? Probably. But once and for all, I would want the Lefties to admit Bush was right. I want 0bama to just effing once, admit his predecessor was right about something. I suppose they need made in Baghdad labels on that stuff but even then, they would never admit it. That crap has no business being on the planet...let alone in the hands of martyr-bound Islamists. Just SICK.


47 posted on 12/10/2012 5:55:18 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Wow if the Iranian Ahul Bayt New Agency says it then it must be true!


48 posted on 12/10/2012 6:32:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ColdOne
Yes, the first pictures of casualties are already coming in. I never thought that I would be on Assad's side but this is a setup.


49 posted on 12/10/2012 6:34:58 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: KTM rider

No, but US American intervention in Syria WILL create that scenario, and that’s the ONLY reason zero is hanging back.


50 posted on 12/10/2012 6:43:07 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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