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To: kingu
14 The problem is the corporate conversion of BSA, and every troop and hopefully every council needs to dissolve the national leadership as well as the very expensive professional ‘scouting’ overhead that quite a few councils are floundering with.

Drop those two, and it won’t matter about all these corporate donations - NONE of this money makes it to the troops, it all goes to pay for adults wearing scout uniforms, forgetting this is a volunteer organization, and instead insisting that not only they get paid for it, but get paid full time.

Spent 32 years as a youth member and adult volunteer in BSA. Served several years as an officer on a local council's executive board. Saw a lot and learned a lot. BSA National has legions of volunteer members who are major detractors for a multitude of reasons - some of them good. BSA has struggled since its inception in 1910 to provide adequate funding just to meet payroll, much less program expenses. Beginning in the '90s, like most businesses under financial pressure, BSA began consolidating councils to reduce the professional payroll. Youth membership has been declining since 1969 despite many innovative attempts to "reach out".

There is a need for professional oversight - national and local council. I am not in favor of it "going away". The heart of the local council is its camping properties and they are expensive to maintain. Same goes for national and its high adventure bases (Philmont - NM, Boundary Waters - MN, Sea Base - FL, etc.).

The BSA business model with regard to units is, in my opinion, superior to the GSA model. With BSA, the charter institutions, mostly churches, "own" the troop. Not so with GSA - the local council "owns" the units' charters. GSA has always been smaller than BSA.

GSA is now completely compromised by homosexual advocacy groups and Planned Parenthood. Birth control/ sexuality is now part of the program (the older age group programs) and lesbian role models are presented in their printed literature.

Many of the leftist volunteer members of BSA express the opinion on scouting forums that it is only a matter of time when BSA adopts the "local option", i.e., letting the charter institutions (churches) decide whether to accept open homosexual and atheists as members. They expect to see a changing of the "guard"/generations from the older professional scouters to they younger "progressive" generation.

36 posted on 12/10/2012 1:35:59 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton
The consolidation of scouting never saved anything, it simply systematically destroyed assets - from compensation for professional scouting, to benefits management and paid financial management - but it is just a fraction of the loss compared to the attractive target for lawyers that these consolidated assets created, as well as full time scouts to villainize.

Because it's no fun to go after a auto mechanic who tosses on the scout uniform a couple nights a week, and a troop nestegg of a half million doesn't make anywhere near as attractive of a target as ten million.

The way to save scouting is to fire the professional arm, and return it to a volunteer organization. Return what few assets exist to troops, and yes, some troops will die, and some camps will die, but the movement will survive. It will not survive as it is, and the present organization has become the greatest foe to moving forward.

75 posted on 12/11/2012 7:08:45 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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