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To: BobL
"I made a point of making sure that my kids got through college with NO DEBT"

"My kids don’t deserve this treatment - they are just now getting old enough to vote"

So which is true? Did they graduate from college debt-free, or are they just now getting old enough to vote?

Where should the cuts come from? Before those who have been compelled to pay in (since this is not a voluntary system) all their working lives are forced to forego what they've been promised, I would like to see exactly what other groups will lose benefits. A lot of the resentment is caused by the fact that non-citizens (exhibit A - Auntie Zeituni) who have paid exactly nothing into the system enter the U.S. and then spend the rest of their lives on the government dole, at the expense of working Americans. Will they be required to forego their "entitlements"? Not likely. And the people who have been the honest players and have done their part and followed the rules will take it in the shorts before the freeloaders such as this deadbeat dad are cut off.

"Deadbeat dad requests public support after fathering 30 children"

http://www.examiner.com/article/deadbeat-dad-asks-for-public-support-after-fathering-30-children

BTW, I'm not a senior - I'm squarely in the "sandwich" generation, but I recognize unfairness when I see it.

100 posted on 12/09/2012 4:28:37 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut; BobL
Good catch -- you "MADE SURE (past tense) that your kids got through college debt-free," and yet they are "just now getting old enough to vote."

Doesn't quite add up, unless you have a very loose definiation of "just now" or else your kids started college at 14 or so...In which case they clearly didn't inherit your IQ!

103 posted on 12/09/2012 4:39:39 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: BlatherNaut

“Where should the cuts come from? Before those who have been compelled to pay in (since this is not a voluntary system) all their working lives are forced to forego what they’ve been promised, I would like to see exactly what other groups will lose benefits.”

NOBODY WILL LOSE BENEFITS!!! Do you understand that? You have WON that battle - you should be happy. The ONLY thing I’m asking now is that TODAY’s workers pay for it - not my kids. There is absolutely no hope in convincing you guys that the people YOU voted into office, collectively, have already spent this country dry. My problem is that I have kids, and I would like to leave them some semblance of a country.

“A lot of the resentment is caused by the fact that non-citizens (exhibit A - Auntie Zeituni) who have paid exactly nothing into the system enter the U.S. and then spend the rest of their lives on the government dole, at the expense of working Americans. Will they be required to forego their “entitlements”? Not likely. And the people who have been the honest players and have done their part and followed the rules will take it in the shorts before the freeloaders such as this deadbeat dad are cut off.”

Like I said, EVERYONE will get a free ride, including you. My point is that taxes need to be high enough to pay for all you guys. Since you guys, older conservatives, are not willing to part with one penny of what you think is owed to you (even if it was spent twice over), the ONLY question left is who pays for you guys - me, or my kids (and later grand kids)...I would like it NOT to be my kids and later generations. That is the ONLY thing left to argue over.


120 posted on 12/09/2012 5:48:38 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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