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Sen. Tom Coburn: I'm Willing to Accept Tax Increases
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Posted on 12/09/2012 1:17:09 PM PST by Orange1998

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Hensarling now wishes he took the previous deal. Cry baby RINO's. They had the opportunity to fix this problem but they chose to gamble. Obama just flat out maneuvered them. Its like losing an live auction and going up to the buyer minutes later wanting that deal. The answer is always.... "Yeah I will do a deal with ya but not at that price". This is exactly how Republicans lost the Presidential Election. The party is being run by a bunch of RINO and needs complete house cleaning. How about a new platform..... Say what you mean and Mean what you say.
1 posted on 12/09/2012 1:17:12 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

It’s over, my friends. It’s over.


2 posted on 12/09/2012 1:18:35 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

Of course they are. When did government not enrich itself? I helped Newt in 1994 and he told me once a week they would spend the getting rid of old silly laws and, stop the 3% telephone tax to fund the Spanish/American war.

They did not stop a 3% phone tax. Name anything the GOP had done for the American people.


3 posted on 12/09/2012 1:20:30 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Orange1998

“...put “significant entitlement reform” on the table.”

That’s it? And to think that whores at least want to see the money upfront before they get under the table.


4 posted on 12/09/2012 1:21:25 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Orange1998
Sen. Tom Coburn: I'm Willing to Bend Over and Accept Tax Increases
5 posted on 12/09/2012 1:27:05 PM PST by mikrofon (RINO-plasty)
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To: Orange1998

The morons running the GOP don’t know jack about actual political power.

There’s a way to out-fox Obama even now. Agree to tax increases... and then tax the hell out of Obama’s constituency groups.

The Republicans can give Obama exactly what he claims he wants - and then structure the details so that it hits universities, hedge funds, Wall Streeters, insurance companies, and even St. Warren Buffett directly. They’ll howl like stuck pigs, but the GOP could come back and say “Well, Mr. Buffett was complaining that his taxes were too low, so we raised them... just like he asked!”

But no. The GOP adheres to their stupid “pledge” and hard-line position to play to some idiot lobby like Norquist and his merry band of know-nothings.


6 posted on 12/09/2012 1:27:44 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Orange1998

Me too. If old people ON THIS SITE insist that they get THEIR WELFARE (i.e., Social Security and Medicare), then YES, it’s time to start paying the bills.

I’ve given up on the concept that older conservatives give a damn about the future of this country - I’ve dealt with more than my fair share of them, ON THIS SITE, that seem to think their Social Security money is sitting in the bank somewhere, just waiting for them to withdraw it.

Sure, they know of the $16T debt...but as long as they cash out, before “cashing out”, it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference to them. So I’m HAPPY to see that Republicans are finally getting on board and, at least, trying to come up with money for these TAKERS, rather than passing it on to my kids, who had NOTHING TO DO with this mess.


7 posted on 12/09/2012 1:30:02 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Orange1998; edcoil

Are you tired? Isn’t it time to form the Tea Party to replace a certain other party?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2956796/posts

Just In Case You Forgot, If You Want To Take Back America & Love The 10th Amendment, You’re Racist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2961368/posts

GOP civil war: Herman Cain calls for third party
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2957787/posts


8 posted on 12/09/2012 1:36:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Orange1998

Of course he and the rest of the GOP old bulls will do everything
except cut spending. After all they all belong to the DC Party.


9 posted on 12/09/2012 1:37:42 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: BobL
Me too. If old people ON THIS SITE insist that they get THEIR WELFARE (i.e., Social Security and Medicare), then YES, it’s time to start paying the bills.

I think your post helps explain why the tea party movement was not as prominent in this year's election. Many, many seniors took to the streets to vocally oppose Obamacare, but they fully support Social Security and Medicare.

And, each day, their numbers grow.

10 posted on 12/09/2012 1:40:00 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Orange1998
FU Tom. We need a series motherf**king Tea Party a$$ kicking at the next election. Or, we collectively let the liberals run the tables on the GOPe.
11 posted on 12/09/2012 1:42:13 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Orange1998
"Sen. Tom Coburn: I'm Willing to Accept Tax Increases"

Then pay more out of your own pocket a-hole, and leave the rest of us alone!!!

12 posted on 12/09/2012 1:42:26 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Its over for the GOP. Time to form a new party.


13 posted on 12/09/2012 1:43:14 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Orange1998

This is a slow motion cave.

No spine.

No cojones.

No integrity.

Bunch of worthless wimps.

TEA PARTY!!


14 posted on 12/09/2012 1:46:42 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: NVDave

Then it sounds like you agree with coburn in that you are OK with increasing taxes. Doesn’t matter. The dems have the votes to push through most of what they want.


15 posted on 12/09/2012 1:49:30 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Orange1998

So.... GOP... how are you feeling about throwing real conservatives under the bus and giving us a Sen. Donnelly and a return of Sen. McCaskill?

That worked out GREAT didn’t it?

And now we have the RINOs folding like a cheap card table. This is getting tiresome. We had 6 years of Repub Congress and POTUS in the 2000s and a chance to end deficits and eliminate the debt. These Repubs set the precendent and BHO is now running with it.

Can we just for ONCE back genuine conservatives? Herman Cain for Senate ‘14!!!


16 posted on 12/09/2012 1:53:22 PM PST by PauldArco
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To: NVDave

“The morons running the GOP don’t know jack about actual political power.”

The Constitution gives the House control over appropriations. Also tax bills must originate in the House. All the Republicans need to do is pass a balanced budget with the taxes to fund it. Then go home. The ball will then belong to Harry Reid and Obama. They can pass the budget and send out the welfare checks. Or they can not pass and not sign the budget, the government will shut down for lack of money, and their constituents will not receive their checks. The press, the Dems, and the masses may blame the Republicans for 2 or 3 weeks but by week 4 they’ll be demanding the Senate pass and Obama sign whatever they can get. This the power play if Boehner and his majority have the guts to execute. We are two years away from the next Congressional election which is a lifetime in politics. Why not actually do something worth getting blamed for by actually starving the welfare state and putting the government on a fiscally sound footing?

Obama, Reid and Pelosi are playing hardball in a game where the Republican House has the ultimate power if they’ll just use it. Instead, the Republicans are afraid to take a little heat from the press so they will cave.

How long will conservatives continue supporting a party that hates them and will never stand up for their interests?


17 posted on 12/09/2012 1:53:49 PM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Mozilla

When I learned in the last couple of week that the GOP had signed a consent decree 30 years ago not to confront voter fraud I was shocked. This was the first I ever heard of it. This automatically makes them a charade, nothing but a straight man for the rats. They needed to dissolve the GOP as a legal entity and let something else take it’s place. And why did they agree to this in the first place?

It’s outrageous and they are nothing but a bunch of entrenched politicians maneuvering to keep their gravy train. They’re as bad as the rats.


18 posted on 12/09/2012 1:56:07 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - both were a coup d'etat.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
It’s over, my friends. It’s over.

You are correct sir. It really is over. Time to do a John Galt on all these scum bags, and next year, I am out of the country.

19 posted on 12/09/2012 1:56:58 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Tau Food

How about the money people have paid into social security, have the government refund every penny back to the investors, see how that would work..


20 posted on 12/09/2012 2:00:05 PM PST by JoanneSD
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To: BobL
Bingo.

I've been staggered by the number of Conservatives on this site who feel the big issue is "Can I get what's coming to me? Will Uncle Sam keep sending me the big entitlement check?"

There is no real understanding for where we are or how we got into this mess. They just want what they want. Short-sighted and selfish -- that's America!

21 posted on 12/09/2012 2:00:32 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: Mozilla
Its over for the GOP. Time to form a new party.

I have fought that idea for years. I'm done fighting it. Let's roll.

22 posted on 12/09/2012 2:02:00 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Tau Food
Many, many seniors took to the streets to vocally oppose Obamacare, but they fully support Social Security and Medicare.
Why the hell shouldn't they support SS and Medicare? They've been paying into both all their lives.
I got my first (official) paying job at 16 and worked until I was 62. That's over 45 feckin' years ... including three years USMC and VN.
Problem is this country gives a $hit more about foreigners - both here and abroad - then it does its own damned citizens.
23 posted on 12/09/2012 2:04:02 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Soc Securtiy benefits are more than the payments into the system. Recipients are getting somethin fer nothin


24 posted on 12/09/2012 2:06:30 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: BobL
If old people ON THIS SITE insist that they get THEIR WELFARE (i.e., Social Security and Medicare)
Your ignorance and hatred are beyond words. Do yourself a favor and STFU.
25 posted on 12/09/2012 2:06:34 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Orange1998

....isn’t anyone going to stop this?

Lift a feeble finger?

Verbalize a pathetic squeal?

No?

:(


26 posted on 12/09/2012 2:09:14 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: oh8eleven

I guess old people should just die now that they can’t pay 17% of their income to the SS ponzi scheme anymore.


27 posted on 12/09/2012 2:09:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: WilliamIII
Recipients are getting somethin fer nothin
Really? What are they supposed to do - not take SS and Medicare after paying into it their whole lives? Idiot.
28 posted on 12/09/2012 2:09:47 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Orange1998

Now that 51% of the electorate is being bought, it’s over.


29 posted on 12/09/2012 2:10:25 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: BobL

I’m an elderly conservative....and I take exception to your post.

No all “old” conservatives feel the same.

No all “old” conservatives wish to cash out before cashing out.

I still work every day and make a living strong enough to not need social security, pay my taxes, and continue to pay in to social security.

I give a damn about the future of this country and it is time for younger people to understand that. We fought and died to make this country great....and many of us are not ready to give up or give in.


30 posted on 12/09/2012 2:10:32 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: oh8eleven

go learn about how the pay ins vs payouts are structured before you call anyone an idiot

learn. ignorance isn’t pretty, especially when coupled with arrogance


31 posted on 12/09/2012 2:12:49 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Orange1998

The handwriting is on the wall. Once again, the (R)s will accept REAL tax hikes NOW, in exchange for vague promises of spending reduction and entitlement reform “discussions” “over the next decade”.


32 posted on 12/09/2012 2:12:49 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: oh8eleven

go learn about how the pay ins vs payouts are structured before you call anyone an idiot

learn. ignorance isn’t pretty, especially when coupled with arrogance


33 posted on 12/09/2012 2:12:57 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: oh8eleven

go learn about how the pay ins vs payouts are structured before you call anyone an idiot

learn. ignorance isn’t pretty, especially when coupled with arrogance


34 posted on 12/09/2012 2:12:57 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Recipients re getting something for nothing???????

They paid in and fought and dies for the country.

et tu Brutus?


35 posted on 12/09/2012 2:13:03 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Orange1998

And I am willing to accept no more GOP.


36 posted on 12/09/2012 2:14:56 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: BobL

How old are you?


37 posted on 12/09/2012 2:16:37 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: oh8eleven

I started mowing lawns at 10 years old, for 50 cents a pop. My first `real job’ was cleaning grocery carts and breaking down boxes at a supermarket, at age 15.
If they want to refund me the value of everything I paid into those programs, with over forty years of interest, sure.
Otherwise, ditto what you said, cannoncocker—those who say we old farts should just `write it all off’ so their children can have that money (that isn’t there anyway), well, they can go s*** in their hats.


38 posted on 12/09/2012 2:18:26 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: BobL
You don't think that tax increases will get us entitlement reform?

You don't believe that, do you?

Please tell me you don't believe that.

39 posted on 12/09/2012 2:22:08 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Orange1998

Republican politicians are fools not to point out the
hard truth about Democrat tax increases. And, that truth
is that the Democrats know that the big money lies in
the hands of the middle class but until the upper class
has been tapped out, the middle class will not accept
a tax increase. Once the tax has been increased on the
wealthy the road is clear to raise middle class taxes.

Why is it that Obama wants a tax rate increase rather
than a closure of “loopholes” on the wealthy to ac-
complish the same thing? I believe that a tax rate
increase on the rich makes for a much more effective
visual to sell to the middle class when the Democrats
come after them. And, why is it that we seldom hear
Republicans talk about growing the economy as the best
way to increase revenues? They’re just a bunch of fools.


40 posted on 12/09/2012 2:23:13 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Orange1998
The comments on FR for this article is all you need to know why taxes will go up. Entitlements are the number one driver of our budget deficits. Yet even here if someone calls for reigning them in you get a bunch of freepers demanding they get to keep their government run healthcare.
41 posted on 12/09/2012 2:23:20 PM PST by Conservative Actuary
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To: Orange1998

If they are all so eager to accept tax increases then just go over the fiscal cliff and they will get the tax increases and the spending cuts. No need to negotiate.

The GOP seems to forget that they agreed to all this last year. Now that its time to eat their peas maybe they wish they had stood firm on the last go around.


42 posted on 12/09/2012 2:23:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Conservative Actuary

“government run healthcare”=Strawman


43 posted on 12/09/2012 2:27:46 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Conservative Actuary

SS isn’t healthcare it is living expenses.


44 posted on 12/09/2012 2:30:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Orange1998

Flat tax. Remove ALL loopholes.

Eliminate corporate welfare and 90% of all foreign aid.

Cut back entitlement growth to the rate of inflation. Eliminate Departments of Energy, Commerce and Education.

Budget problem solved.


45 posted on 12/09/2012 2:32:01 PM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: TigersEye
Medicare is and that was referenced as well, same argument applies to that. All these freepers prove is how few real conservatives their are as most so called conservatives just want to conserve the welfare programs they benefit from.
46 posted on 12/09/2012 2:34:06 PM PST by Conservative Actuary
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To: Conservative Actuary

Medicare is free? Who told you that? My mother paid into it from every paycheck she ever got and now pays over $3,000 per year in premiums for her Medicare supplemental insurance. That’s over $3k that comes out of her $16k per year SS. To support two people’s entire yearly living expenses.


47 posted on 12/09/2012 2:37:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Mark17
Time to do a John Galt on all these scum bags, and next year, I am out of the country.

Where to?

48 posted on 12/09/2012 2:37:18 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Conservative Actuary

Let me add that she hasn’t used her Medicare much at all. One broken wrist and a couple of emergency room visits.


49 posted on 12/09/2012 2:38:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Conservative Actuary

Then you should have said “Medicare.”
You were attempting to conflate the Social Security program with `Obamacare,’ something everyone here opposes.
You were taking a swing at something easy.

`Age and treachery overcomes youth and enthusiasm—24/7’


50 posted on 12/09/2012 2:42:30 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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