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War over ‘sexist’ Queens statue
New York Post ^ | December 9, 2012 | LIZ SADLER and KATE BRIQUELET

Posted on 12/09/2012 8:01:00 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

Civic Virtue has become a Greek tragedy.

Queens residents are protesting the city’s plans to banish a controversial sculpture to Green-Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn — which would be the second move for the classic, 90-year-old monument that pols have slammed for decades as a sexist eyesore.

“The Triumph of Civic Virtue” depicts a nude male warrior symbolizing civic virtue trampling two women, the sirens of vice and corruption.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: queens; sexists; statue
A chump like Weiner was involved, enough said.
1 posted on 12/09/2012 8:01:04 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Welcome to the 21st century — vice and corruption are supposed to win, and males are supposed to get trampled.


2 posted on 12/09/2012 8:06:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
“The Triumph of Civic Virtue” depicts a nude male warrior symbolizing civic virtue trampling two women, the sirens of vice and corruption.

It's not that they represent women that's bothering them, it's that they represent NY politicians.

3 posted on 12/09/2012 8:08:37 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: ConservativeStatement

It would probably be ok if it was a woman trampling
two men. Anyway sirens were historically women because
of their appealing voices.

I hate this PC crap


4 posted on 12/09/2012 8:12:47 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s only vice and corruption when women do it. It’s virtue when guys do it.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 8:16:39 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Well, it would definitely be a welcome addition at Green-Wood. For those not from the area, Green-Wood is a really old cemetery with a who's who of historical New Yorkers -- predating Brooklyn being part of NYC for that matter -- back to the days when cemeteries were also parks where people could walk. It was a tourist attraction then, and there are bus tours of it now. (Though it was odd seeing the bus loading up off to the side of the gate as we were leaving after a service.)

Here's a wiki link.

6 posted on 12/09/2012 8:19:40 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Betcha if the guy was trampling a couple of nuns (or other representation of a female Christian), many of the same crowd would be clamoring to protect it.

I think the sculpture rocks, btw.


7 posted on 12/09/2012 8:21:29 AM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: tet68

>>I hate this PC crap<<

I go out of my way to use non-PC language. When I am forced to use it, it is always with a snicker.


8 posted on 12/09/2012 8:29:13 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: DemforBush
Since some call television “art,” I’ll use the comparison of violence against males to promote products in TV ads or even shows. How many sitcoms have men being slapped across the face in the name of humor? The current Fiat TV ad displays a woman slapping a man across the face on a street corner. That is allowed. Imagine if a male slapped a woman across the face, for anything, yet alone to sell an automobile?
9 posted on 12/09/2012 8:30:51 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: SkyDancer
It’s only vice and corruption when women do it. It’s virtue when guys do it.

Then why is Satan always depicted as a male? For God's sake, what's next? Are we going to rewrite the Medusa as a male just so the PC crowd doesn't get it's panties in a wad? It's a piece of sculpture done in the classical style. You have to work really hard to be offended by it. I sincerely hope you were joking.

10 posted on 12/09/2012 8:31:09 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: DemforBush

The same idiots who are protesting this are the ones demanding that we protect the “freedom of expression” for sacriligeous portrayals.


11 posted on 12/09/2012 8:31:17 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: SunTzuWu

Forgot the >/sarc tag. Sorry


12 posted on 12/09/2012 8:33:53 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Though a crucifix in urine is deemed arte extraordinaire by essentially the same crowd that would condemn this.
13 posted on 12/09/2012 8:38:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: tet68
I'd say this sttue was directed at the women's movement...prohibition and the vote.

Men don't have any rights?

Imagine a statue of a man and woman and their children crushing two females. Now how would you interpret that....and what are the chances of that happening??

But art at a major museum depicting God and dung in the same breath....that's okay??

14 posted on 12/09/2012 8:42:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ConservativeStatement
What's so sexist about this statue? It's Greek! FPS

The male nude is gay. The two "females" were formerly known as Chuck and Barry before their sex change operation.

15 posted on 12/09/2012 8:48:58 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: SkyDancer

Well honey, if women want to create a rich tapestry of myths and if a woman wants to carve a wonderful statue based on those myths we men certainly won’t mind. Complaining about the men who actually did those things is easier and more satisfying though.

I miss the days when women were women (and gloried in being women) and didn’t sound like perpertually jealous little brothers.


16 posted on 12/09/2012 8:59:45 AM PST by Freeeedooomm
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To: SunTzuWu

Males created the statue, which depicts sirens as women because males created the myths.

When a man first came up with the idea of a siren, who lures you with its beautiful voice/form to your destruction, he made it female.

Because it had to be. Because heterosexual men are very unlikely to be lured to their deaths by a male voice, no matter how melodic. Men would be yelling “shut the hell up, will you” from passing ships. You’d end up “luring” in a bunch of angry guys who wanted to chop your head off.

Male sirens...now there’s a truly horrifying mythical creature.


17 posted on 12/09/2012 8:59:49 AM PST by Freeeedooomm
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To: ConservativeStatement; mickie; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; magnum force 1
Liberal, even non-liberal, artists will NEVER again do ANY piece of work with a woman depicted in less than a superior position to a male.....NEVER.

They certainly don't want their artistic labors ending up in a cemetary or at the bottom of the East River.

So much for those age-old sexist paintings of the Blessed Virgin Mary prostrated at Jesus' feet under the cross.

Leni

18 posted on 12/09/2012 9:02:31 AM PST by MinuteGal (Please Restore Former Format on FR "Latest Posts" Page ASAP !)
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To: Freeeedooomm

It was sarcasm. Forgot the </sarc tag


19 posted on 12/09/2012 9:05:17 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

I should have realized that. You are quite sensible. What are you doing up? Isn’t it 4 AM where you are?


20 posted on 12/09/2012 9:07:19 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

Yes and no. I’m home for Christmas to be with family and will go back after New Years.


21 posted on 12/09/2012 9:08:55 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Freeeedooomm

Women who are women don’t mind admitting a depiction of vice filled women being eradicated. They know that women are powerful and they know that women who seek to destroy virtue are powerfully driven to destroy culture and civilization.

Good women are simply not threatened by this. Not in the least, just this current crop of baby and family killers.

Kids need to read the classics in school. They do around here. Takes their interest in stupid pop literature and tramples it like a graak god trampling a couple of sirens.


22 posted on 12/09/2012 9:13:32 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Greek gods too.


23 posted on 12/09/2012 9:15:25 AM PST by stanne
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To: SkyDancer

Good to hear. I’ll be home with mine in about a week. Happy Hanukkah and a safe and Happy New Year.


24 posted on 12/09/2012 9:27:54 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

Thanks!


25 posted on 12/09/2012 9:30:10 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I was reminded how censored society has become yesterday, when my 25 year old son and I sat down and watched old youtube vids of Art Linkletter and Bill Cossby doing kids say the darndest things. Most of this could never air on television today.


26 posted on 12/09/2012 9:58:16 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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>> 90-year-old monument that pols have slammed for decades as a sexist eyesore.

But it’s art? The Taliban destroys art that it deems offensive.


27 posted on 12/09/2012 10:01:11 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bingo!


28 posted on 12/09/2012 10:06:28 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ConservativeStatement
At one time, it was a fountain. Hasn't had water for decades.

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29 posted on 12/09/2012 10:08:47 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: MinuteGal
Liberal, even non-liberal, artists will NEVER again do ANY piece of work with a woman depicted in less than a superior position to a male.....NEVER.

... excepting rap music, where it is perfectly ok to depict women as 'hoes' and 'bitches' ... and politicians are worried about a 90 year old allegorical statue. Somehow, I don't think the statue is the problem.

30 posted on 12/09/2012 10:14:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I see. The city is just following the Taliban's lead ...


31 posted on 12/09/2012 10:15:57 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Roccus
It once stood in front of City Hall in Manhattan.

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32 posted on 12/09/2012 10:16:47 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Many Queens residents are apparently ignorant when it comes to Greek mythology (among other things). I’m willing to bet that a large percentage of ‘em are 0bama voters.


33 posted on 12/09/2012 10:37:04 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: ClearCase_guy; Prov1322
This may be only tangentally related, but I will never forget in the 70s, when the sculpture titled "Government of the People" by Jaques Lipshitz (I am not making this up) was installed at the Municipal Services plaza near City Hall in the center of Philadelphia, then-Mayor Frank Rizzo said, "It looks like an Italian plasterer dropped a load of plaster."

LOLs!

34 posted on 12/09/2012 10:45:28 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government can't redistribute talent, willpower, or intelligence, except through dictatorship.)
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To: SunTzuWu
"Then why is Satan always depicted as a male? "

Time to portray Satan as female. It's the PC thing to do.

Women scare me (and I'm a female)

35 posted on 12/09/2012 11:39:49 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Albion Wilde
Does the flag say "wicked" or "wacked"?

That's a seriously clumpy statue.

As to the original statue in this thread...

Please move it to my front lawn.

36 posted on 12/09/2012 11:48:42 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: stanne

Uhm, unless one knows what the statue is about, it’s likely to be seen as a man trampling two women. Flame away, but I can see why it’s offensive. Would a statue of a woman walking on two men be O.K. with the posters on here? I doubt it. Given the state of our education system, I’m not surprised people don’t know what it means.


37 posted on 12/09/2012 12:33:34 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Does the flag say "wicked" or "wacked"?

Hadn't even noticed it! It appears to be an ad for the roadshow of the Broadway musical "Wicked", a recent adaptation of "The Wizard of Oz" that features the witch.

38 posted on 12/09/2012 1:03:26 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Government can't redistribute talent, willpower, or intelligence, except through dictatorship.)
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To: Amberdawn

Eh.

When women finally figure out that they OWN abortion, this statue will seem like a depiction of Hello Kitty getting her purse snatched.

They’re lucku they don’t go after Lady Liberty 10 miles to the southwest fro being a girl.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/no_way_to_treat_ady_QgsNQsgR5uDiybWBJjZWMN?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Queens\AP

THE MAN KEEPING HER DOWN: Civic Virtue (the dude) steps on vice (the woman).


39 posted on 12/09/2012 2:43:31 PM PST by stanne
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To: ClearCase_guy; Prov1322; 1_Rain_Drop
...the sculpture titled "Government of the People"..."It looks like an Italian plasterer dropped a load of plaster."

I should add, that when the installation of the statue was publicized, one of my friends commented, "That's the taxpayer on the bottom."

40 posted on 12/10/2012 8:51:17 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government can't redistribute talent, willpower, or intelligence, except through dictatorship.)
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To: stanne

It may not have occured to you, but more men support abortion than women.


41 posted on 12/10/2012 9:21:12 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Oh men support it!

Yep. They’re vocally quiet about it, they are complete and utter wimps about it, for the vast majority, except those who are doing trmendous work against it.

Women, however, own it.


42 posted on 12/10/2012 12:13:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Oh, O.K. I guess that explains why there are more women in pro-life organizations than men....


43 posted on 12/11/2012 12:58:20 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

One - yes, it does.

Two - It explains why there are moe women in pro abortion organizations than men.

men stay out of it. But they think they’re not affected by it. They are.


44 posted on 12/11/2012 4:53:37 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Yeah, AND?


45 posted on 12/11/2012 6:57:46 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

And. . . That’s it. Should there be more? There isn’t.

This issue is so simple.


46 posted on 12/11/2012 7:08:13 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Whatever.


47 posted on 12/11/2012 7:24:01 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

I am under the impression that 55 million abortions in 40 years deserves more insight than, whatever, but it is still a free country.


48 posted on 12/11/2012 7:31:49 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Maybe in your clouded world it’s still free, but not in mine.


49 posted on 12/11/2012 12:04:46 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Well, you’re free to say “whatever” about this monstrosity.


50 posted on 12/11/2012 2:26:47 PM PST by stanne
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