Skip to comments.Terry Waite Shakes Hands with Hizbollah 25 Years After Kidnap
Posted on 12/08/2012 1:42:26 PM PST by nickcarraway
Terry Waite has met the leadership of Hizbollah, the militant group accused of kidnapping and holding him for five years, in an extraordinary gesture of reconciliation.
The former hostage spoke for two hours to one of its most senior figures at their stronghold in Beirut, his first encounter with the organisation held responsible for masterminding his kidnapping 25 years ago.
Accompanied by The Sunday Telegraph, he travelled to Lebanon to highlight the plight of Christians who have fled the Syrian civil war.
Mr Waite offered the reconciliation to Hizbollah to help with the Christians plight at a secretly arranged, late night rendezvous and told Aamar Moussawi, the senior figure he met: The past is the past.
Mr Waite, 73, admitted people would think him crazy for pressing for the meeting and that he would now be opened up to accusations of consorting with terrorists. But he said it was now time to consign his suffering to the past and to forgive Hizbollah, the Iranian-backed Party of God, whose military wing is outlawed in the UK. Hizbollah, in return, described Mr Waite as a great man.
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Well, he got that right.
The word “idiot” comes to mind.
Blithering idiot is more specific!
Looks like that terrorist is smiling from ear to ear.
Waite is an idiot.
"Crazy", "suicidal", "too stupid to live", "Darwin Award candidate", there are many things we might think of him, and "crazy" is only one of them.
Yes and yes.
It is not a Christian virtue to forgive evil done against you if the evildoer is continuing to commit evil acts, and your forgiveness enables him to continue doing so. Blanket, unconditional forgiveness is Idiot Christianity, which is to say, not Christian. People always forget the "and sin no more" part.
I guess Stockholm Syndrome can lay dormant for years.
Too bad that Ambassador Stevens won’t be able to shake hands with his muzzie kidnappers in 25 years.
Or any of the tens of thousands of people that Hezbollah and the other muslim militant organizations have kidnapped or murdered over the last several decades.
“Mr Waite offered the reconciliation to Hizbollah to help with the Christians plight at a secretly arranged, late night rendezvous and told Aamar Moussawi, the senior figure he met: The past is the past.”
No, sir, the past is prelude. We can expect more criminal behavior from them if we refuse to treat them like the barbaric animals they are.
Just why hasn’t this waite idiot’s family had him committed?????????
These animals are laughing at him.
This is so patently what God and Jesus did not do that I just have to point it out, lest everyone reading this thread have a wrong impression about God and forgiveness.
If you can't forgive even your enemies and the ones who are actively hurting you, you aren't following the teaching of Jesus who died praying to forgive his enemies.
See references to scriptures: Lk 23:34; Matt 5:44; Proverbs 25:21; Acts 7:60; Rom 12:14; ect.
If God put those conditions none of us would be saved. In principle I'd have to say Terry did a Christian thing, and therefore the right thing. He ended his own suffering by seeking to forgive his enemies thus choosing to give up his own pain before he died.
Stockholm syndrome......sad....unless he had a ring
Get your heads straight on what Jesus actually taught about forgiveness. You’re embarrassing yourselves, I’m nearly at the point of calling you to turn in your Christian card if you don’t have this most basic idea down.
See my #16
Who among us is saved if God does not forgive even his enemies. Who does Jesus ask us to imitate?
The 20th century has any examples of Christians embracing false causes/ideologies. This guy Waite is but one.
man...these Anglicans in the UKwould a chased the rail cars yelling wait for me
Turn in my Christian card?
you’re an idiot
That was a figure of speech.
Learn your faith and apply it.
That is the best advice I can give to you, but if you want to engage in insults I’m not going to go there.
Scripture also speaks of loving thine enemy. Mt 5:44
Forgiving those who persecute you. Mt 6:14
Guess what this guy actually did. Whose following an example of Christ?
I’m betting on the Anglican at this point.
Let’s not forget WILLIAM FRANCIS BUCKLEY, kidnapped by Hezbollah and later hanged.
As for Waite, he was negotiating to get the release of people kidnapped by Huzbullah and was promised safe conduct. They lied and took him hostage.
It appears he still thinks he is bulletproof.
So, is he going to forgive the individuals who did it or just the organization to which they belonged?
Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.
If you forgive only those who repent you have not forgiven.
You are correct in one sense: “Let love be genuine; hate what is evil, hold fast to what is good (Romans (12:9).”
Indeed rebuke and correct error, where appropriate. Doing that is actually an act of love. Especially, do so to those from Hezbollah. But you are wrong to say that it has to be conditional for a Christian to forgive. We should be imitators of God (Ephesians 5:1)
If I recall he forgave even his tormentors on the cross.
Matt 18:21-22 —Notice Jesus never gives a condition here.
The repentant offender and the offended — Luke 17:3-4
God and the offended believer — Mark 11:25
Two humans are necessary to obey Luke 17:3-4—one who repents, and the other who grants forgiveness. Only one human (the offended believer) is necessary to obey Mark 11:25. Obviously, the two passages are teaching two different kinds of forgiveness.
Waite is reported as having told Hezbollah “that the Arab Spring had been hijacked by Islamic jihadists who were now causing chaos in Syria as well as in Egypt and Libya.”
I don’t care for either side in these never ending disputes (except Israel), and I don’t want the US involved militarily if it can be avoided. However, IMO Waite is correct on that point.
After thinking about it some more, you could be right.
You can not negotiate with the dragon, placate the Cobra or deflect the knife in the back.
One must know his enemies and be willing to kill him and all that stand with him. If you can not do this, lay down you sword and surrender for he has already defeated you.
Sometimes when you turn the other cheek, your opponent hits you with a baseball bat. Sounds like Waite will never learn and more innocent people will die because he “forgave” his captors.
I have more respect for an enemy who says that they are going to kill me than for a man who gives them cover to do it.
Meanwhile, I’ll try to kill the bastards. The only “other cheek” I’m going to turn is the ones on my ass when I moon their bodies.
Waite deserves to be ignored, period.
You’re passive aggressive
You insult folks yourself then retreat and call foul when folks respond firmly
And you are not a woman i don’t think.....surprising
If you recall, He was crucified with two men on crosses at his side. But only one of them was told he would be in Heaven with Him. And He did not save either of them from crucifiction as was entirely within his power to do.
C’mon with the remarks - he went through a lot and isn’t capitalizing via current household name-recognition. He had to find some lunatic way to get his name back in the news...(no /s needed)
Seems like being a Church of England envoy is the perfect job for that guy.