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Illegal immigrant gets kidney
Chicago Tribune ^ | December 9, 2012 | Michael Holtz,

Posted on 12/08/2012 6:25:54 AM PST by moonshinner_09

As an illegal immigrant, Jorge Mariscal waited eight years for a kidney transplant he feared would never come.

His persistence paid off Thursday when he underwent the procedure at Loyola University Medical Center.

After years of uncertainties, Mariscal said he's excited about his future and grateful for the help he received. But he remains frustrated with a health care system that he worries might leave out an untold number of illegal immigrants in need of lifesaving treatments. "Why can't we be treated the same?" he asked while sitting in his hospital room. "Health care should be a human right, not a privilege. At least give us the chance to fight for our lives with dignity."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; crazy; heathcare; il; immigration; unreal
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"Health care should be a human right, not a privilege.,Drivers licenes,healthcare for illegals is being called a human right and not a privilege. They sure do not convey this same attitude in Mexico that human rights include drivers licenses,healthcare,etc,etc,etc.
1 posted on 12/08/2012 6:26:02 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
At least give us the chance to fight for our lives with dignity."

At least give us the right to take advantage of you Americans, legally - with 'dignity'.

At least give us the right to rob, rape, and murder Americans, with 'dignity'.

At least give us the right to infect the US Population with our heretofore thought extinct diseases, with 'dignity'.

At least give us the right to take an organ badly needed by an American so that we can get it installed for free, with 'dignity'.

2 posted on 12/08/2012 6:33:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: moonshinner_09
"Health care should be a human right, not a privilege. At least give us the chance to fight for our lives with dignity."

He's going to make an outstanding commie lib, Obamazombie. If health care is a"human right", why the hell didn't he have the mexican government give him his kidney? Don't they have "human rights" in Mexico? Just askin'. This guy is an ass.

3 posted on 12/08/2012 6:35:59 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Isn’t that special? Now taxpayers can foot the bills for the rest of his life—ongoing tests and medications. Too bad a US citizen won’t get that same chance.


4 posted on 12/08/2012 6:37:53 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: moonshinner_09

>>”Health care should be a human right, not a privilege.”

In Mexico.


5 posted on 12/08/2012 6:38:12 AM PST by expat1000
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To: moonshinner_09

What the...?


6 posted on 12/08/2012 6:40:13 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: moonshinner_09

Okay, I’m going to post the first thought that came to my mind when I read this article. I wonder what American died because he or she was knocked off the list for the illegal? Is that unChristian of me? I know one man who has been on the kidney list for close to eight years. He pays his taxes, volunteers at a local fire department (office work but volunteers) and is a kind man. No one is going to tell me that this particular organ didn’t match up with an American on the waiting list.


7 posted on 12/08/2012 6:43:51 AM PST by momtothree
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To: expat1000

Yes. Exercise your “right” elsewhere where it doesn’t force us to labor harder to pay or your “rights”. Damn even the liberal’s self entitlement ideology has crept into the illegals minds. I think people nowadays get “right” confused with “privilege” because of spoiled culture mindset that we live in today. You wouldn’t have heard this crap hardly, if at all, prior to 60 years ago


8 posted on 12/08/2012 6:49:03 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: moonshinner_09

Speaking as someone who has had family members needing transplants, bone marrow in one case, kidneys in the other this makes me angry. Considering that my guy, who has only broken the occasional traffic law, is still waiting and we have marines in mexico being tied to beds in prison for less than this makes me want to say screw it deport them all, and bomb that fetid swamp they came from into oblivion.


9 posted on 12/08/2012 6:57:22 AM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: moonshinner_09
"Health care should be a human right, not a privilege. At least give us the chance to fight for our lives with dignity."

Since "Being Born" isn't a human right in the US - carrying it further - everything else that follows isn't either...ØCare

The Completion of 'Being Born' is at the whim and 'Privilege' of the Host-Womb...there are no pure "Rights" - Only "Privileges" and Permissions.

Abortion 'Rights' passes the baton to decree whether a 'human' will have a 'right' by the privileged-decision maker.
The same 'rights of the privileged deciders' will go straight down the line with Government Controlled HealthCare.

10 posted on 12/08/2012 7:00:00 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: moonshinner_09
Who is paying for this act of generosity?


11 posted on 12/08/2012 7:08:53 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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The Rev. Jose Landaverde, pastor of the mission, said he felt compelled by the Gospel to help Mariscal after hearing his story. "Jorge is a lot of hope for the community," he said. "I believe that the Gospel moves us to be in solidarity with one another." Aside from his help with fundraising, Landaverde organized a 21-day hunger strike in June against hospitals that denied transplants to patients because of their undocumented status.

What 'gospel' is Landeverde preaching? The 'social' justice? No one is talking about CHRIST - so it isn't the Christian gospel.

My Christian gospel tells me to work hard - as unto the Lord; and then bless the less fortunate with what I've earned - from compassion. I do not have the right to take from my neighbor through force or intimidation to do my good deeds. What my neighbor does with his earnings is between him and God.

So Landeverde can take up a collection, and that's Christlike and compassionate. But he can not intimidate others into subsidizing his 'good deeds' through politics. That's twisted and demonic.

Christ teaches that you earn a living and freely give to help the less fortunate out of compassion. Marx teaches that you take from the more fortunate out of envy. Marx created Marxism/communism/socialism to REPLACE Christianity, which he thought was evil. You can not blend Marx with Christ.

12 posted on 12/08/2012 7:09:12 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: momtothree
No one is going to tell me that this particular organ didn’t match up with an American on the waiting list.

My first thought too, but in reading full article, it was his Mother's donated kidney.

He didn't have a "Right" to her kidney - she needed to give "Permission" to "Privilege" him the kidney....
But yet he believes he has a "Right" to stuff.

13 posted on 12/08/2012 7:09:42 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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” “Why can’t we be treated the same?” he asked while sitting in his hospital room. “Health care should be a human right, ...”

Ask that illegal immigrant if any of the pest hole Gubments south of the American border provide free medical care on the level which this scum is whining for.


14 posted on 12/08/2012 7:11:24 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: libertarian27
Fair enough ~ mother gives spare kidney to child. I'd do that. Everybody here but a couple of them would do that. I know a fellow who gave a chunk of his liver to a neighbor, and another guy who received a kidney from a young person in a large family he'd helped over the years.

People do that.

Now, raising money for the surgery ~ people do that too.

Here's how I deal with the youngman's political commentary ~ he's too ignorant to know how to say anything meaningful on the matter and secondly, it does look different being on the receiving end than the giving end.

Someday everything will be different ~

15 posted on 12/08/2012 7:25:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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I’m wondering, since he believes he has a “right” to healthcare - does he also believe he has a ‘right’ to his mother’s kidney - if she chose not to ‘privilege’ him her kidney, does he think he has a ‘right’?

Since he thinks there should be a ‘right’


16 posted on 12/08/2012 7:32:04 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: libertarian27
people under duress will say all sorts of things ~ the reporter should have interviewed his mother ~ nothim.

His life will be far different now.

17 posted on 12/08/2012 7:33:29 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: moonshinner_09

Will the new kidney pass on it’s American citizenship making him an American citizen now? Of course, that would cause him to lose all his freebie.


18 posted on 12/08/2012 7:33:30 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: momtothree

Get out of my head.

[if it’s un-Christian, then we’ll have lots of time to chat with each other, later]

:-\


19 posted on 12/08/2012 7:36:50 AM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Just more of the same and the reason why I have been turning off all news and radio dealing with politics. it’s making me crazy and far too angry.

I’ll read but I can’t tolerate seeing this or hearing it debated by pundits.

The minute I hear crap like this I have to put on the classical music station or If i am at home, one of my classical vinyl records.

It calms me down.

The country wants this. Expect it on a regular basis and find a way to deal with your blood pressure.


20 posted on 12/08/2012 7:45:34 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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