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1 posted on 12/05/2012 9:36:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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journalistic ethics

Now there is an oxymoron.
2 posted on 12/05/2012 9:38:07 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

“journalistic ethics”


stopped there


3 posted on 12/05/2012 9:38:13 AM PST by freedomlover
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Here’s the story for those who are not New Yorkers...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/nightmare_on_subway_tracks_GgvCtkeJj6cTeyxHns2VNP

EXCERPT:

A 30-year-old man confessed today to being the subway psycho who “launched” an innocent straphanger into tracks, where he was killed by an oncoming Q train, law enforcement sources told The Post.

The suspect, Naeem Davis, was being questioned today in Manhattan, in connection to the grisly death of Ki Suk Han, 58, yesterday afternoon. The man was picked up on 50th Street near Seventh Avenue by a transit police captain, who was on a coffee break at 1:30 p.m. and ran over to grab him.

Davis confessed to shoving Han into tracks, though he’s not been formally charged yet, law enforcement sources said.

Han, of Elmherst, Queens, desperately tried to scramble back to the platform as onlookers screamed, shouted and frantically waved their hands and bags in a bid to get the downtown Q train to stop at around 12:30 p.m.

The man being questioned by cops was identified as a 30-year-old street vendor from Queens, according to law enforcement sources.

Post freelance photographer R. Umar Abbasi — who had been waiting on the platform of the 49th Street station — ran toward the train, repeatedly firing off his flash to warn the operator.

“I just started running, running, hoping that the driver could see my flash,” said Abbasi, whose camera captured chilling shots of Suk’s tragic fight for his life.

The train slowed, but a dazed and bruised Han still wound up hopelessly caught between it and the platform as it came to a halt.

A shaken Abbasi said the train “crushed him like a rag doll.”

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE REST...


4 posted on 12/05/2012 9:38:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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More concern-troll nonsense from the Saudi-owned press to to make them look "introspective" while blaming someone else.

Anybody with any knowledge of photography can tell that the photo was shot with a telephoto lens from a long distance away.

The photographer was simply not close enough to beat that train. Period.

5 posted on 12/05/2012 9:39:59 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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Can’t really blame the Post for doing with a photo what the New York Times does every, single day of the year with text.

Papers that don’t feature nasty events, crisis, and even manufactured doom and gloom don’t get sold - they sit on the news stand and gather dust.

There is the heavy stench of hypocrisy in the air.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 9:41:04 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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Why did Han get into an argument with this African street vendor? It’s always stupid to get into pointless arguments with strangers and road rage arguments. You can never win anything in an argument. You can only lose.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 9:44:24 AM PST by snowstorm12
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Almost no one seems to be upset with the black guy who threw the victim on to the tracks. He's not the bad guy! It's the photographer! The photographer is the bad guy in this tragedy!

Save us. Blacks are not accountable for anything.

9 posted on 12/05/2012 9:44:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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Reminds me of an article in LIFE magazine about 42 years ago. I think I still have it somewhere but am too lazy to look it up.

In Africa, a photographer catches a crocodile attacking an antelope. A hippo runs down and scares the croc off. The hippo stays around nuzzling the antelope, then the antelope dies and the hippo leaves while the croc reclaims it’s prize.

The next week there was a letter to the editor ripping up the photographer for not going down and helping that poor antelope.

I was on that NY subway a few months ago. From the looks of the photo no one could get to the man in time, those trains really FLY!


10 posted on 12/05/2012 9:47:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Merely a symptom of the sickness that is now America. Sad, truly sad to see my country plummet is such a short period of time.


13 posted on 12/05/2012 10:01:31 AM PST by mort56
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maybe the photographer had to catch a plane to Vegas for a fund-raiser


15 posted on 12/05/2012 10:03:55 AM PST by Homer1
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It’s too bad this guy panicked. There are a few ways to survive being on the tracks when a train is coming. He’s fixated on the train which is natural, I guess.


16 posted on 12/05/2012 10:04:13 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: SeekAndFind

New York’s alright
New York’s alright
New York’s alright

If you like saxophones

New York’s alright
If you wanna get pushed In front of the subway
New York’s alright If you like tuberculosis
New York’s alright If you like art and jazz
New York’s alright If you’re a homosexual

New York’s alright
New York’s alright
New York’s alright

If you like saxophones

New York’s alright If you like drunks in your doorway
New York’s alright If you wanna freeze to death
New York’s alright If you wanna get mugged or murdered
New York’s alright If you like saxophones

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New York’s alright
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If you like saxophones

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23 posted on 12/05/2012 10:33:53 AM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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If the victim was my Dad, I’d be livid. There’s no need for this.

Some years ago a girl I was engaged to had a chimney fire at her parents house. Late at night, the family escaped but the house was badly damaged. Reporterettes from two different TV stations were there shoving microphone and camera into the Mom and Dad’s faces asking them for comment - “How do you feel right now?”. Yeah.. the house her father spent 30 years to pay off and watch his kids grow up in... The questions stopped when my former fiance started swinging.

So now I hear that one of the networks has a show in the works that features recordings of 911 calls. Tasteless and stupid. Hope the producers and advertisers lose a lot of money on it.


24 posted on 12/05/2012 10:34:54 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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For the last few years the media creatures have been “chomping at the bit” to show actual deaths. The gorier the death the more eager they are to show it. Consider the depiction of the subway death as an ice breaker.


27 posted on 12/05/2012 10:35:57 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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People are blaming the photog for shooting photos insead of helping to pull the victim to safety.

Nobody has the obligation to risk their own life to help another. Reaching over the tracks to pull the victim would most likely result in a double tragedy. The panicked victim would pull the good Samaritan off balance down onto the tracks in the path of the approaching train.

It would take at least two men to pull out the victim; one reaching for the victim and another stabilizing the rescuer. What potential hero would trust a complete stranger in this scenario where there was absolutely no margin of error? And even with two men, it could still result in both being pulled down to their death.

Then there is also the fact that a mad subway pusher is still at large and the fear, the very real fear, that this crazy man will push the rescuers over the edge.

And lastly: the approaching train. There was not enough time to assess one's own safety from the madman and to devise a rescue plan.

I am astounded by the comments on the New York Post website from armchair heroes condemning the photographer for not helping, implying they would if in the same situation. Most people flee to save themselves and that is not cowardice. The video on ABC news of the two men arguing in the moments before the man is pushed plainly shows a crowded platform, including at least 4 or 5 men. But, the photo of the train bearing down on the man with his arm reaching to get off the tracks shows an empty platform. Empty! Where did all those people go? They fled.

Being pushed off the platform by a deranged madman is every straphanger's greatest fear. While the photo is heartbreaking and profoundly disturbing, the photographer has helped to bring the issue of our failed mental heath policy to the forefront. Hopefully this photo will result in changes to how we deal with dangerous individuals so subway riders don't have to put up with the constant fear of arousing the rage of a madman.

The photographer is not to blame, the victim (who was drunk and foolishly engaged the madman) was not at fault, and the subway riders were not at fault for failing to risk their own lives attempting a perilous rescue.

The fault lies squarely on Mayor Bloomberg and other city and state leaders who turn a blind eye to the problem of madmen at large in the city, on the criminal justice system that turns them loose even after multiple arrests and on the MTA for poor security and allowing areas where the platforms are too narrow.

Mayor Bloomberg's statement, "the goods news is that this is rare" makes my blood boil. There is no good news about this tragedy and to dismiss it because it's rare is not a solution. Every New Yorker and every tourist is fearful of the subway right about now andNew York is at risk of returning to the bad old days of the early 1980's when fear of crime ruled.

If Bloomberg fails to take action against allowing the mentally ill to roam the streets and the subways there will be a chilling effect on the city's economy at a time when it is still recovering from the devastation of Sandy.

It's easy to blame the photographer or the Post for running it or the bystanders instead of tackling the real problem.

28 posted on 12/05/2012 10:42:11 AM PST by grasshopper2
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News “photography” disgusts me. They shove cameras in peoples’ faces. They hunt for a show of emotion. When the parent of a victim starts crying, they zoom in to get the tears. They love sobbing people.

News photographers are disgusting.


31 posted on 12/05/2012 11:02:32 AM PST by I want the USA back (The media is completely irresponsible.)
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Umar Abassi? Yes, another “diverse” American...cough...


34 posted on 12/05/2012 1:42:13 PM PST by Amberdawn
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What is the ethics question here? It is a snapshot. It is newsworthy. It doesn’t intrude on anyone’s privacy more than any other photo. What is unethical is when a prospective murderer calls someone to a place where he says a person will be murdered and the someone goes with camera in hand and films the murder without making any effort to alert the police or the victim. That, by the way, has been done.


35 posted on 12/05/2012 5:21:08 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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