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U.S. risks 'another Benghazi' under Mexican rules barring agents from arming
Fox News ^ | December 03, 2012 | Joseph J. Kolb

Posted on 12/04/2012 7:38:55 PM PST by george76

U.S. agents on assignment in Mexico, where they are helping the local authorities go after violent drug cartels, are not allowed to carry weapons for their own protection, a situation that one lawmaker says could turn into “another Benghazi.”

Because the official role of U.S. agents south of the border is limited to intelligence gathering and training their Mexican counterparts, they are barred by Mexico from carrying weapons. The danger they face was underscored last month, when 15 Mexican National Police were arrested in connection with the attempted murder of two CIA agents in August.

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Obama gave tacit approval to Mexico’s prohibition against U.S. agents carrying weapons in March 2011, following the ambush killing of ICE agent Jaime Zapata and the wounding of his partner, Victor Avilla.

"There are laws in place in Mexico that say our agents should not be armed," Obama said.

And DEA spokesman Michael Rothermund said it’s for Mexico to decide if American agents can carry guns in Mexico, not the U.S.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi

1 posted on 12/04/2012 7:38:58 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Risks another Benghazi or is orchestrating another Benghazi?


2 posted on 12/04/2012 7:41:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Build the “F”ing fence, get out and let the idiots kill each other!


3 posted on 12/04/2012 7:45:13 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: george76

There is no amount of pay you could salary me to go down there un-armed.


4 posted on 12/04/2012 7:47:12 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: george76

Who the hell would take that job?


5 posted on 12/04/2012 7:52:19 PM PST by Clock King
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To: George from New England; WellyP

I wouldn’t set foot in Mexico with a platoon of Marines for an escort. It’s a shame. My family took two extensive vacations by automobile there in the ‘60s and there was a lot to see and do. For the most part the people were great to us. Mexico has loads of natural and cultural resources to exploit and could be a wealthy nation but for the corruption.


6 posted on 12/04/2012 7:55:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Not long ago I spent some time Nuevo Vallarta. I was in a nice gated and guarded area. I’m sure those guys at the gates were not just carrying, they were locked and loaded. Not a single problem but BORING AS Hell! How boring you ask? I don’t thing any of the people my age who appeared to be walking around were actually alive!


7 posted on 12/04/2012 8:06:38 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: TigersEye

Not long ago I spent some time Nuevo Vallarta. I was in a nice gated and guarded area. I’m sure those guys at the gates were not just carrying, they were locked and loaded. Not a single problem but BORING AS Hell! How boring you ask? I don’t thing any of the people my age who appeared to be walking around were actually alive!


8 posted on 12/04/2012 8:06:46 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: George from New England

I have been watching the series “Border Wars” for several weeks now and have come to a sad set of conclusions:

Being a CBP officer has to be the most frustrating law enforcement job in the world. Catch illegals, send them back to Mexico and a few days later, catch the same ones again.

Capture thousands of pounds of drugs and have to release the perpetrators due to lack of evidence (have to watch a few episodes to understand that statement).

Having to watch smugglers escape back into Mexico and not be able to anything about it.

As a former police officer, I feel for the Border Patrol officers, their frustration must take a toll.

And now being asked to go into Mexico un-armed!


9 posted on 12/04/2012 8:11:27 PM PST by doc1019 (Women have a choice, unborn babies don't.)
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To: TigersEye

“Risks another Benghazi or is orchestrating another Benghazi?”

Methinks the latter.


10 posted on 12/04/2012 8:19:28 PM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: george76
"It's a wider and sensitive issue of our sovereignty having foreign agents armed on our soil," said the Mexican official"?

What about the wide and sensitive issue of our sovereignty with the wetback hordes invading our soil?

11 posted on 12/04/2012 8:20:00 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment,a Matter of Fact,Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Nachum

FYI


12 posted on 12/04/2012 8:23:52 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: WellyP
How boring you ask? I don’t thing any of the people my age who appeared to be walking around were actually alive!

LOL That bad eh?

In the mid '80s my gf took me to Puerto Vallarta via airplane. We shared a cab ride to our hotel and dropped off another tourist at a gated resort. At the gate were Federale soldiers carrying M-16s. I thought that was a bit startling and didn't get it. Further on I saw "Yanqui go home!" painted on the corrugated tin roofs of houses. Quite a change from the Mexico I visited less than twenty years earlier.

13 posted on 12/04/2012 8:42:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: MichaelCorleone

My hunch as well. One of many little Reichstag fires being set to use as props to manipulate public opinion.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 8:48:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: george76
"There are laws in place in Mexico that say our agents should not be armed," Obama said.

There are laws in place in the United States that says illegal entry is not allowed.

A$$-wipe honors Mexican laws but not the laws he oathed to honor.
15 posted on 12/04/2012 8:49:42 PM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: george76

Benghazi-Coward Obama File.


16 posted on 12/04/2012 8:51:31 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: stylin19a
Obama gave tacit approval to Mexico’s prohibition against U.S. agents carrying weapons in March 2011, following the ambush killing of ICE agent Jaime Zapata and the wounding of his partner, Victor Avilla.

It's amazing that the ambush and murder of a U.S. agent is the motivation to agree to unarmed agents. 0bama is the buttwipe of all buttwipes.

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Ice Agent Jaime Zapata Murdered While Investigating Fast and Furious Weapons

ICE Agent Jaime Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila, were ambushed at a fake roadblock in Mexico. Were they set up? If so by whom?

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While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

“I have no information to that effect, no. I don’t know one way or the other,” she replied to a direct question on any Fast and Furious connection by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

Word games. Here's the little trick Napolitano, Holder and ATF are playing. F&F was an ATF operation run out of the Tucson AZ office. But some guns were walked out of Texas gun shops which puts them in the jurisdiction of Texas ATF offices so those ops must have had other names. So far I have not seen any reporting on what those op names were.

Armored SUV could not protect U.S. agents in Mexico

U.S. investigators recovered one of the military-style semi-automatic weapons used in the attack that killed Zapata.

The gun came from Texas.

Ballistic testing of spent shell casings and the raising of an obliterated serial number revealed the weapon was a popular Romanian-made AK-47 knockoff purchased at J&J’s Pawn Shop in Beaumont, smuggled south to the Zetas by a methamphetamine trafficker named Manuel Gomez Barba, a U.S. citizen.

ICE agent's family files wrongful death claim against Justice Dept.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 9:00:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: george76

What kind of mentality would an agent have to possess to wade into the Mexican den of snakes and thieves UNARMED???


18 posted on 12/04/2012 9:31:35 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: george76
"There are laws in place in Mexico that say our agents should not be armed," Obama said.

"So, we will arm drug cartels. At least somebody will have guns. And the stupid Republicans say we don't want anybody to have guns!"

19 posted on 12/07/2012 11:44:33 PM PST by tdscpa
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To: doc1019

The Border Patrol is run and full of Mexicans who support Illegal Immigration. Seen it myself.

The Border is Controlled by the Cartel. Imperial Beach used to be a Giant Comm Center where lots of battles in the War on Drugs took place, but it got sooooo bad that not only where the cartel hiding drugs on the beach of our own base but NSA was telling us to shut down ops at night because “nothing was happening at night”.

If there is not a Revolt among the Gop, and a massive sea change in the Senate in 2014.....


20 posted on 12/08/2012 11:47:27 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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