Skip to comments.Firearm NICS Checks break all time record
Posted on 12/04/2012 8:01:38 AM PST by aimhigh
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Diane Feinstein, Bloomberg and the rest of the gungrabbers had better remember this before it is too late.
Which is why I only purchase from individuals, cash only. (I’m not convinced, no matter what the law says, that a record isn’t being kept of every background check and firearm transaction by some shadowy government agency. So if the day ever comes where some registration or confiscations scheme is passed, that agency will suddenly “discover” that, oops, those records didn’t get destroyed like they were suppose too and they still have a record of every transaction that went through NICS).
I bet numbers like that keep them up at night trembling in terror. Essentially more firearms went into private hands in ONE MONTH, than are in the hands of every federal law enforcement officer in the nation. They aren't stupid, they must realize that when the excrement finally hits the fan their army of armed government lackeys will be swept away in a matter of days. Then there will be nothing standing between them and the people. (Which is the REAL reason they want gun control so badly...)
The Feinstein/Bloomberg types have their “retreats” already lined up,
and they will be given enough advanced warning in order to get there before the rest of us realize the “shift” is happening.
By the time the poor souls that have to actually go door to door make it to me all mine will have been lost in a boating accident.
Can you imagine the turnover rate for that job? How many would be “retired” early? If not already happening that would be the spark for CW 2. Our rank and file military won’t support (at least all the ones I know) and most of not 3/4 of police will not. That leaves boot licking feds.
The crash is going to be bloody.
The plethora of firearms in the hands of citizens is a double edged sword, but probably has a net positive result.
Without the firearms, the machete wielding thugs would have no resistance.
One of those 2,006,919 checks was for this 2 mile fascist perforator, perfectly suited to using MSM broadcast towers for targets :
I agree. I don’t think it unreasonable to assume that a record, electronic or otherwise is created and is kept, regardless of law. However, on the other hand, the admin process for tracing firearms begins with a serial numbered weapon recovered somewhere along the way (crime scene etc) then the manufacturers records indicate to whom it was shipped (distributor) then those records indicate which FFL bought it and the ATFE (which should, by the way, be a convience store) contacts the FFL (if still in business) and the bound book entry indicates when it was sold at retail or otherwise disposed of, then the form 4473 filed by month and year reflects the original retail purchaser. If the FFL is defunct, then the ATFE has to search the 4473s in gov storage, so yes, eventually all 4473s unless destroyed by other unplanned circumstances, wind up in the hands of the federales....
Buying privately is a good idea.
Anyway, that is how the lawful trace system works. They goota have the gun (with serial #) to start with.
90% of the purchasers voted for the kenyan, and will vote dem again in 2014 and 2016. Bank on it.
I share your concern. I have not been as disiplined as you.
I have made 10 AR-15s from “80%” receivers with no serial numbers.
I am not particularly skilled with tools. Very easy.
I heard a sheriff in the state of Florida talk about this very issue a few months ago, responding to a concerned email writer who basically said the same thing you are saying.
Apparently some states handle their NCIS checks exactly as if they were background checks resulting from a traffic stop, so the federal government doesn’t get information to alert them that its anything other than a traffic stop or some other type of check. I can’t provide you any more proof than what this sheriff said. But there was a firearms dealer who spoke after the sheriff who said the same thing.
It appears you are assuming that law enforcement personnel aren't purchasing personal firearms. They are.
“..The Feinstein/Bloomberg types have their retreats already lined up...”
I suspect those “retreats” are well-stocked, well-fortified and well-hidden because there is a real bad feeling out there that when the SHTF, there will be no place for those types to hide on the face of the entire planet, let alone in the USA. They’ll be looked for world-wide and once captured, they’ll probably just be turned over as feed to the hungry “unwashed masses”: The Walking Dead.
Sign me up for the first hunting trip to Gstaad.
They're already making countermoves. Just this morning I heard on FOX that in a new bill concerning the Veterans Administration; that any vet that has been judged to be incompetent to handle their own finances they shall be entered into a criminal database that will prohibit them from owning firearms. So if you can't balance your checkbook, you lose your guns? Yup. How long before they take all the behavioral health databases and do the same? So if you've ever been even mildly depressed, get ready to lose your guns... This was done during Clinton and they got 90,000 vets just banned from owning guns in one fell swoop. Congress tried to address that with a law mandating that any future such actions be done case by case and must show evidence of a legal ruling of incompetence by a judge. But this regime doesn't let little legal niceities like that stand in their way... You watch, this juggernaut has just begun to roll. Spread the word to your ping lists...
There is no corresponding spike in gun crime because these are mostly bought by and for law abiding citizens.
It's always a case of losing one's firearms in a "boating accident" isn't it? Yes, yes, I know it's a FR inside joke but it wore thin and old some 10-12 years ago.
Can't you and others think of some other way that the "firearms" were lost? Lack of imagination, I suppose.
If a Hitler-like government takes over, do you think your little azz will be saved by telling the storm troopers some cockaminny tale like that?
Curious as to your opinion on buying some “give away” cheap guns to give the storm troopers whilst you keep your good stuff cached away somewhere...
Of course, you’d have to know the confiscation was underway and get this all set up ahead of time.
Imagine how many other folks are doing the same thing .....:-) The ‘new record’ number is no doubt a good bit understated as to the numbers of folks arming themselves or beefing up their arsenals.
I’ll tell them I sold them to some guy named OldPossum here is the receipt. :)
Mine are actually safely dispersed in a couple locations except for the couple I keep around for use and the couple cheap ones as throw downs.
ah, the “throw downs”. That’s what I was talking about.
“Here ya go Mr Jackboot. I had to sell all my good stuff in order to buy food.”
You’re probably right but they have other ways. Unless you pay cash for ammunition there is a record of that. Home insurance companies keep the records also. Sign-in sheets at the gun range. Hunting licenses.
A myriad of ways they can tell.
And this with the huge computer crashes and freezes by the NICS the weekend after Thanksgiving...
Anybody who ever bought ammo or mags with a credit card will also be flagged. They know what weapon goes with what ammo.
Let's be blunt. If it comes to that it will be time to be using them.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago
I’ve got plenty of cash-only and some credit card BLOAT purchases; some private firearms purchases and some on 4473’s. They know only what I want them to know. It’s what they don’t know that will be the bitch.
Keep your powder dry.
Probably grows faster than my black locust trees...
So much for a quiet and gentle old age.
When it all collapses what difference does it make if they have you on record or not? The bullets will be flying every direction anyway. Pick up a gun from a fallen warrior and keep shooting.
Then you cannot purchase anything newly manufactured.
Sure limits what you can have, and how much you will pay for it.
I hate FedGov as much as anybody, but who are they going to find in 2 million firearms transfers per month?
Heh, Heh. Yeah, I’m getting to be a rather crotchety and cantankerous old fart.
Heh, Heh. Yeah, I’m getting to be a rather crotchety and cantankerous old fart.
That last rant was just “in general” but mostly to apillar’s caution. Didn’t want B.E. to think it was at him.
Re your post #24. I wish to point out that I am indeed a very, very OldPossum. I have lived a wonderful life, though with some bumps, and therefore, I am not interested in parlaying my integrity in exchange for a longer life. I have no intention of giving up my guns voluntarily. The “storm troopers” will get them but only after I have no further use for them.
So, you see, I have no viewpoint on “give away” guns.
I SALUTE you!
Dropped it in the cesspool. Feel free to look for it.
Really? You didn't find it?
Bummer, must have rusted to bits. Well, thanks for cleanin' the cesspool for me.
Now, that’s better. I would think you might take your gun with you to the outhouse as opposed to a boat (unless you’re a duck hunter).
Well, thank you.
Maybe if we keep telling them that what they’re constantly saying is a colossal bore they will stop it. Not in my lifetime, of course, but eventually...
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