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Firearm NICS Checks break all time record
FBI website ^ | 12/04/2012 | FBI

Posted on 12/04/2012 8:01:38 AM PST by aimhigh

Nationally, firearm NICS checks broke the record in November, with 2,006,919 checks. This beat the prior December 2011 record of 1,862,327.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; bloat; donttreadonme; elections; fbi; firearms; freedom; liberty; molonlabe; obama; rkba; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 12/04/2012 8:01:47 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
....with 2,006,919 checks.

**************

Outstanding....
....simply outstanding!

2 posted on 12/04/2012 8:03:29 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: aimhigh

Diane Feinstein, Bloomberg and the rest of the gungrabbers had better remember this before it is too late.


3 posted on 12/04/2012 8:04:36 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: aimhigh

Which is why I only purchase from individuals, cash only. (I’m not convinced, no matter what the law says, that a record isn’t being kept of every background check and firearm transaction by some shadowy government agency. So if the day ever comes where some registration or confiscations scheme is passed, that agency will suddenly “discover” that, oops, those records didn’t get destroyed like they were suppose too and they still have a record of every transaction that went through NICS).


4 posted on 12/04/2012 8:12:14 AM PST by apillar
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To: patriotsblood
Diane Feinstein, Bloomberg and the rest of the gungrabbers had better remember this before it is too late.

I bet numbers like that keep them up at night trembling in terror. Essentially more firearms went into private hands in ONE MONTH, than are in the hands of every federal law enforcement officer in the nation. They aren't stupid, they must realize that when the excrement finally hits the fan their army of armed government lackeys will be swept away in a matter of days. Then there will be nothing standing between them and the people. (Which is the REAL reason they want gun control so badly...)

5 posted on 12/04/2012 8:20:14 AM PST by apillar
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To: apillar; patriotsblood

The Feinstein/Bloomberg types have their “retreats” already lined up,
and they will be given enough advanced warning in order to get there before the rest of us realize the “shift” is happening.


6 posted on 12/04/2012 8:23:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: apillar

By the time the poor souls that have to actually go door to door make it to me all mine will have been lost in a boating accident.

Can you imagine the turnover rate for that job? How many would be “retired” early? If not already happening that would be the spark for CW 2. Our rank and file military won’t support (at least all the ones I know) and most of not 3/4 of police will not. That leaves boot licking feds.


7 posted on 12/04/2012 8:23:27 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: aimhigh

The crash is going to be bloody.

The plethora of firearms in the hands of citizens is a double edged sword, but probably has a net positive result.

Without the firearms, the machete wielding thugs would have no resistance.


8 posted on 12/04/2012 8:24:16 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Wings-n-Wind; TigersEye; Beckwith
Yep, patriots are preparing to enforce the Constitution and rebel against executive order rule by a dictatorial, treasonous president, whose dictates are unsupported by representative passed Congressional law. His dictatorial executive orders are supported only by political correctness applied by a well oiled propaganda machine.

One of those 2,006,919 checks was for this 2 mile fascist perforator, perfectly suited to using MSM broadcast towers for targets :

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9 posted on 12/04/2012 8:28:11 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: apillar

I agree. I don’t think it unreasonable to assume that a record, electronic or otherwise is created and is kept, regardless of law. However, on the other hand, the admin process for tracing firearms begins with a serial numbered weapon recovered somewhere along the way (crime scene etc) then the manufacturers records indicate to whom it was shipped (distributor) then those records indicate which FFL bought it and the ATFE (which should, by the way, be a convience store) contacts the FFL (if still in business) and the bound book entry indicates when it was sold at retail or otherwise disposed of, then the form 4473 filed by month and year reflects the original retail purchaser. If the FFL is defunct, then the ATFE has to search the 4473s in gov storage, so yes, eventually all 4473s unless destroyed by other unplanned circumstances, wind up in the hands of the federales....

Buying privately is a good idea.

Anyway, that is how the lawful trace system works. They goota have the gun (with serial #) to start with.


10 posted on 12/04/2012 8:32:38 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally correct!))
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To: aimhigh

90% of the purchasers voted for the kenyan, and will vote dem again in 2014 and 2016. Bank on it.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 8:36:53 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: apillar

I share your concern. I have not been as disiplined as you.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 8:37:39 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Manly Warrior

I have made 10 AR-15s from “80%” receivers with no serial numbers.

I am not particularly skilled with tools. Very easy.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 8:38:43 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Manly Warrior

I heard a sheriff in the state of Florida talk about this very issue a few months ago, responding to a concerned email writer who basically said the same thing you are saying.

Apparently some states handle their NCIS checks exactly as if they were background checks resulting from a traffic stop, so the federal government doesn’t get information to alert them that its anything other than a traffic stop or some other type of check. I can’t provide you any more proof than what this sheriff said. But there was a firearms dealer who spoke after the sheriff who said the same thing.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 8:40:50 AM PST by RavenATB
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To: apillar
Essentially more firearms went into private hands in ONE MONTH, than are in the hands of every federal law enforcement officer in the nation.

It appears you are assuming that law enforcement personnel aren't purchasing personal firearms. They are.

15 posted on 12/04/2012 8:41:42 AM PST by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: MrB

“..The Feinstein/Bloomberg types have their “retreats” already lined up...”
I suspect those “retreats” are well-stocked, well-fortified and well-hidden because there is a real bad feeling out there that when the SHTF, there will be no place for those types to hide on the face of the entire planet, let alone in the USA. They’ll be looked for world-wide and once captured, they’ll probably just be turned over as feed to the hungry “unwashed masses”: The Walking Dead.


16 posted on 12/04/2012 8:44:24 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: lgjhn23

Sign me up for the first hunting trip to Gstaad.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 9:00:15 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: apillar; Travis McGee; Old Sarge; MamaDearest; Criminal Number 18F; Godzilla; Joe Brower; ...
I bet numbers like that keep them up at night trembling in terror.

They're already making countermoves. Just this morning I heard on FOX that in a new bill concerning the Veterans Administration; that any vet that has been judged to be incompetent to handle their own finances they shall be entered into a criminal database that will prohibit them from owning firearms. So if you can't balance your checkbook, you lose your guns? Yup. How long before they take all the behavioral health databases and do the same? So if you've ever been even mildly depressed, get ready to lose your guns... This was done during Clinton and they got 90,000 vets just banned from owning guns in one fell swoop. Congress tried to address that with a law mandating that any future such actions be done case by case and must show evidence of a legal ruling of incompetence by a judge. But this regime doesn't let little legal niceities like that stand in their way... You watch, this juggernaut has just begun to roll. Spread the word to your ping lists...

18 posted on 12/04/2012 9:10:23 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: aimhigh

There is no corresponding spike in gun crime because these are mostly bought by and for law abiding citizens.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 9:24:11 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: aimhigh

I helped


20 posted on 12/04/2012 9:26:32 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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21 posted on 12/04/2012 9:28:27 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Resolute Conservative
By the time the poor souls that have to actually go door to door make it to me all mine will have been lost in a boating accident.

It's always a case of losing one's firearms in a "boating accident" isn't it? Yes, yes, I know it's a FR inside joke but it wore thin and old some 10-12 years ago.

Two things:

Can't you and others think of some other way that the "firearms" were lost? Lack of imagination, I suppose.

If a Hitler-like government takes over, do you think your little azz will be saved by telling the storm troopers some cockaminny tale like that?

22 posted on 12/04/2012 9:29:47 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Candor7
Wolverines........take back America!!!!!!!


23 posted on 12/04/2012 9:31:18 AM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: OldPossum

Curious as to your opinion on buying some “give away” cheap guns to give the storm troopers whilst you keep your good stuff cached away somewhere...

Of course, you’d have to know the confiscation was underway and get this all set up ahead of time.


24 posted on 12/04/2012 9:34:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: apillar

Imagine how many other folks are doing the same thing .....:-) The ‘new record’ number is no doubt a good bit understated as to the numbers of folks arming themselves or beefing up their arsenals.


25 posted on 12/04/2012 9:36:10 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: OldPossum

I’ll tell them I sold them to some guy named OldPossum here is the receipt. :)

Mine are actually safely dispersed in a couple locations except for the couple I keep around for use and the couple cheap ones as throw downs.


26 posted on 12/04/2012 9:38:19 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

ah, the “throw downs”. That’s what I was talking about.

“Here ya go Mr Jackboot. I had to sell all my good stuff in order to buy food.”


27 posted on 12/04/2012 9:42:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: apillar

You’re probably right but they have other ways. Unless you pay cash for ammunition there is a record of that. Home insurance companies keep the records also. Sign-in sheets at the gun range. Hunting licenses.

A myriad of ways they can tell.


28 posted on 12/04/2012 9:51:38 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: aimhigh

And this with the huge computer crashes and freezes by the NICS the weekend after Thanksgiving...


29 posted on 12/04/2012 9:56:50 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: apillar

Anybody who ever bought ammo or mags with a credit card will also be flagged. They know what weapon goes with what ammo.


30 posted on 12/04/2012 10:29:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Resolute Conservative
>>By the time the poor souls that have to actually go door to door make it to me all mine will have been lost in a boating accident.

Let's be blunt. If it comes to that it will be time to be using them.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago

31 posted on 12/04/2012 10:40:52 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve got plenty of cash-only and some credit card BLOAT purchases; some private firearms purchases and some on 4473’s. They know only what I want them to know. It’s what they don’t know that will be the bitch.

Keep your powder dry.


32 posted on 12/04/2012 10:47:19 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: aimhigh
I've been growing bamboo.


33 posted on 12/04/2012 11:20:32 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP

Probably grows faster than my black locust trees...


34 posted on 12/04/2012 11:31:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EdReform

So much for a quiet and gentle old age.


35 posted on 12/04/2012 11:35:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: apillar

When it all collapses what difference does it make if they have you on record or not? The bullets will be flying every direction anyway. Pick up a gun from a fallen warrior and keep shooting.


36 posted on 12/04/2012 11:58:43 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: apillar
You are basically right. A user on Market-Ticker seems to have had direct contact with “The List” or so he says and it does make sense. The records are kept by the DMV apparently and tied to your DL making it easy when a LEO stops you and you have a gun. All he has to run is your DL and then has access to a firearms list.
http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?singlepost=3080083
Here is the Thread
http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=214333&page=1
37 posted on 12/04/2012 12:40:05 PM PST by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: apillar
Which is why I only purchase from individuals, cash only.

Then you cannot purchase anything newly manufactured.

Sure limits what you can have, and how much you will pay for it.

I hate FedGov as much as anybody, but who are they going to find in 2 million firearms transfers per month?

38 posted on 12/04/2012 12:41:51 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Travis McGee

Heh, Heh. Yeah, I’m getting to be a rather crotchety and cantankerous old fart.


39 posted on 12/04/2012 1:44:00 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Travis McGee

Heh, Heh. Yeah, I’m getting to be a rather crotchety and cantankerous old fart.


40 posted on 12/04/2012 1:44:00 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: backwoods-engineer
No matter what “official records” exist today, it hardly matters. Not when they can apply Social Network Analysis algorithms, and come up with all of the categories and watch lists they’ll ever need. Unless you also never made an “anti-govt” (sic) post on the internet, or ever bought ammo or a magazine with a credit card. “Official records” are almost an unneeded relic of the 20th century horse and buggy and vacuum tube eras. SNA turns all the telescopes faster than any “official” data points. Unless you’ve been a hermit, living in a cabin off the grid. In which case, you won’t much matter to the coming interesting times at all, as if you had just been a bear or a coyote passing through. If it’s just about safety, then you might as well be an early adapter, and turn Stasi informant in the first wave, and get the most credit. Dang, how many more lists can I be on? Who cares? If they come for us, it’s game on, we all know that. I hope some of them know it.
41 posted on 12/04/2012 3:19:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: apillar; EdReform

That last rant was just “in general” but mostly to apillar’s caution. Didn’t want B.E. to think it was at him.


42 posted on 12/04/2012 3:21:58 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ExSoldier
"...I heard on FOX that in a new bill concerning the Veterans Administration; that any vet that has been judged to be incompetent to handle their own finances they shall be entered into a criminal database that will prohibit them from owning firearms."

That's what's already being done to veterans. Coburn's proposed Amendment to the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act bill was an effort to change that by requiring adjudication before violating veterans' Second Amendment rights. McCain argued against the Amendment, so Coburn stopped trying.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/3/change-on-veterans-gun-rights-lights-fire/?page=all#pagebreak


43 posted on 12/04/2012 3:33:26 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: MrB

Re your post #24. I wish to point out that I am indeed a very, very OldPossum. I have lived a wonderful life, though with some bumps, and therefore, I am not interested in parlaying my integrity in exchange for a longer life. I have no intention of giving up my guns voluntarily. The “storm troopers” will get them but only after I have no further use for them.

So, you see, I have no viewpoint on “give away” guns.


44 posted on 12/04/2012 3:33:27 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Candor7

Me want!


45 posted on 12/04/2012 4:14:25 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: EdReform

I helped....twice!


46 posted on 12/04/2012 4:16:37 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: OldPossum
BRAVO!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

I SALUTE you!

47 posted on 12/04/2012 7:33:23 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: OldPossum
Can't you and others think of some other way that the "firearms" were lost? Lack of imagination, I suppose.

Dropped it in the cesspool. Feel free to look for it.

Really? You didn't find it?

Bummer, must have rusted to bits. Well, thanks for cleanin' the cesspool for me.

48 posted on 12/05/2012 8:26:18 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Now, that’s better. I would think you might take your gun with you to the outhouse as opposed to a boat (unless you’re a duck hunter).


49 posted on 12/05/2012 9:22:23 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

Well, thank you.

Maybe if we keep telling them that what they’re constantly saying is a colossal bore they will stop it. Not in my lifetime, of course, but eventually...


50 posted on 12/05/2012 9:24:40 AM PST by OldPossum
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