[sickoflibs]

RE :”All of the elections since 2000 show that half of the country wants big government and half do not like big government. Both sides have to somehow talk to each other, preferably without using politicians”

The GOP screwed themselves and us under GWB. We got generations of voting age kids that either just remember GWB years, or more like Clinton then GWB years, but no positive R POTUS as an example.

I have posted many times here that if it was important to convince voters that ‘freedom’ is better than the mommy state, to vote R POTUS rather than D POTUS, then they needed a 2-term-R POTUS to show how something like that works successfully in their interests, and clearly that was not GWB.

This is the unfortunate reality.

If Obama leaves office looking like a success (say the economy looks like it is getting better) leaving office then the national R party is over as a governing option.
Rs best bet now is that taxes on the rich go up (automatically), Obama gets his big ‘victory’ without GOP votes and then the economy crashes. Then Rs can give Ds a taste of their own medicine,

Otherwise its just more of the crazy cult minority stuff.

[cradle of freedom]

I don’t know how any white male can vote for the dems. White males have a target on their backs.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Rs best bet now is that taxes on the rich go up (automatically), Obama gets his big ‘victory’ without GOP votes and then the economy crashes. Then Rs can give Ds a taste of their own medicine,”

YEP