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1 posted on 12/02/2012 7:41:50 PM PST by blam
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While I don't underrate the crime problem, this is another California public employee union con-job. There are plenty of budgets that could be slashed to help take up the shortfall before police protection. Lush public employee retirements and benefits -- including those of police -- would be a good place to start.

This has become a disgusting method of blackmailing voters into approving tax increases. Budget short fall? First things cut are services essential to taxpayers, not the highly-paid boards, commissions, advisory councils etc. that politicians use to reward their friends and supporters.

43 posted on 12/02/2012 9:14:36 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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First...we need solid Right to Self Defense Laws (RSD) that are more protective for crime victims than Stand Your Ground and Castle Doctrine Laws

When I see what is happening to George Zimmerman here where I live....with the Black Ku Klux Klan basically lynching him because he had to cap a violent black person beating on him...I am now a little nervous to exercise self-defense. If you are white and cap a minority....the Racist Groups are coming after you

And, RSD Laws are really needed in majority non-white cities


47 posted on 12/02/2012 9:20:11 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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It appears we have arrived at the time we are not safe anywhere, unless we make it safe for ourselves.

As long as there is power, my small group of townhomes is behind a locked gate. Sure, someone could climb over the wall surrounding the place, but they won't be driving in and there are houses everywhere around that are easy pickings compared to this place.

I have security warnings that will alet me if someone has touched my window or door and the door can't be kicked open. Of course, I have fatal deterrents should my door be breached.

The thing is, in all my long life this has never happened and now we are rapidly collapsing economically and that sets up criminals to try to get what someone else has. I think we are past the time when it was coming as it is now here.

There is no guessing anymore as to when it would happen. Everyone should have a gun and know how to shoot it and stock water and food.

48 posted on 12/02/2012 9:28:31 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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It appears we have arrived at the time we are not safe anywhere, unless we make it safe for ourselves.

As long as there is power, my small group of townhomes is behind a locked gate. Sure, someone could climb over the wall surrounding the place, but they won't be driving in and there are houses everywhere around that are easy pickings compared to this place.

I have security warnings that will alet me if someone has touched my window or door and the door can't be kicked open. Of course, I have fatal deterrents should my door be breached.

The thing is, in all my long life this has never happened and now we are rapidly collapsing economically and that sets up criminals to try to get what someone else has. I think we are past the time when it was coming as it is now here.

There is no guessing anymore as to when it would happen. Everyone should have a gun and know how to shoot it and stock water and food.

50 posted on 12/02/2012 9:29:43 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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There is something better than locking doors and staying inside.

Create neighborhoods with only one way in and out. Post signs at the entrance advising any who enter that the neighbors are armed and ready to take care of business. Then make very dramatic examples of the first two lawbreakers who try anything.


51 posted on 12/02/2012 9:45:30 PM PST by lurk
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Dear Law Enforcement Officers aka Revenue Enhancement Agents

I quit counting on you folks many years ago...

When TSHTF LE will need me Far More than I need them

(I just want their toys, they have really cool toys, I’m jealous)

TT


60 posted on 12/02/2012 10:50:08 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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My hubby doesn’t leave the home without protection. He’s been that way for most of our years being married. Only reason he didn’t have them sooner, he was in college; living on a budget while trying to get into law enforcement; which he did.
(Now, I do like he does- I didn’t use to..though, in Va., I took classes and the training that I needed. The guys at the range were really supportive as well as respectful, to me. Of course, hubby taught classes there, too. I use to travel often. I was very safe with my surroundings and didn’t take a weapon all of the times. As the crime escalated, I felt good to have it with me.

We don’t live very far from where the guy kidnapped the women at the Florida mall and killed them. Things here are crazy. Home invasions and robberies at stores, gas stations and malls. The news rolls out story after story involving crimes. In Va., it was bad there too.

We plan to move away about 125 miles north to a smaller area. I have a house there/just got to get it ready next year. The one here can be put on the market ( it’s paid for so we can let it sit until a buyer).

( One time in Va., at a traffic light, a man tried to get into my car at the passenger side. Of course, all doors were kept locked. He came very close. I could see his hands. He got one warning. It only takes a less than a second for your brain to react for self defense. Best to go through training, you just never know. I have been trying to convince my younger sister, to go take classes. Hubby and I have offered to take her to pick a handgun that suits her needs. She is thinking about it).

66 posted on 12/03/2012 12:52:20 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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Preppers’ PING!!


69 posted on 12/03/2012 2:27:59 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Just take a look at Chicago. It has become one of the deadliest major cities on the entire globe

Hussein did such a good job in his own city that he was hired to do the same for the nation. There were some deadly daytime home invasions here recently and it turned out to be illegals. But, hey, amnesty for all!!!!

73 posted on 12/03/2012 5:34:08 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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there is not enough money to pay for adequate police protection any longer.

Since when do police protect anyone? They are Law Enforcement. That denotes a reactive stance. They are engaged to investigate crimes after the fact, arrest suspects, build a case and turn over all that to a prosecutor.

They do not protect anyone. Especially since their presence deters no one. Unless they happen to be at the right place at the right time.

We, as individuals, are responsible for protecting ourselves and our families. It has always been this way. Never have the police been tasked with doing that.

78 posted on 12/03/2012 7:19:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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I wonder if there will be any discussion of defensive measures such as decoys, booby traps, trip wires etc. If things really do get bad, that is very bad full blown SHTF, we need to think of IEDs as a defensive measure. Not that we would make any of these devices now but we may want to have the knowledge and supplies.
Any ideas?


79 posted on 12/03/2012 7:44:47 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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My father always checked to be sure that all of our doors were locked before he went to bed. He was very concerned about security, for as far back as I can recall. I learned a lot from him.


87 posted on 12/03/2012 1:04:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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