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City Attorney Tells San Bernardino Residents To ‘Lock Their Doors,’ ‘Load Their Guns’ Because Of....
CBSLA.com ^ | November 30,2012 | Juan Fernandez

Posted on 12/02/2012 7:53:32 AM PST by joesjane

SAN BERNARDINO (CBSLA.com) — The city attorney of San Bernardino is under scrutiny for telling residents to “lock their doors and load their guns” during a city council meeting.

The official explained that because the city is bankrupt and slashing public safety budgets people will need to start protecting themselves.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; guns; prepper; violence
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To: Gay State Conservative

“According to this article San Bernadino,a city of 209,000 (I looked it up),had 43 murders in the first 11 months of the year.OTOH,New York City (population 8 million) had 193 murders in the first 6 months of 2012 (I looked it up).Kinda makes me glad I don’t live in San Bernardino.”

The difference, one word, “illegals.” Like most of Southern California, San Bernardino is Mexico City. They say that at least 10% of the poplulation of Mexico lives in the US, and most of those live in SoCal.


41 posted on 12/02/2012 9:02:13 AM PST by vette6387
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To: joesjane

Many communities have volunteer fire departments. Can we import that idea into policing? Must every officer be an employee?


42 posted on 12/02/2012 9:02:21 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: NY Attitude

“Especially when the police want you to comply with a thugs request and not resist as reported earlier this week on FR.”

Well, the problem is solved in San Berdo. There aren’t going to be any cops to tell the citizens anything in the not too distant future. We are looking at the new model, self reliance. My guess is that we will find that it works better than the old since the perps will get “speedy justice,” instead of clogging up the courts and the prisons.


43 posted on 12/02/2012 9:07:16 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Don Corleone

I hear you loud and clear. Again, California is the canary in the mine.


44 posted on 12/02/2012 9:09:41 AM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Great post! I keep hoping that we on freerepublic are just a small percentage of other individuals who understand the principles you have laid out.

Most people do not understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

If you have time, check out some of the comments to the article and some other pages where people are commenting to the story. So far it seems to me that there are many who feel the same way we do.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 9:13:59 AM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: NY Attitude

I did not see that story. Now it is stuff like that, that pisses me off! There is no way in hell I will ever do that.


46 posted on 12/02/2012 9:16:08 AM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: joesjane
when someone trespasses the intention is to take something that belongs to the owner, either property, sex or life itself.

Wrong... and first it should be noted that what some might call "trespass", others might call "license". Meter readers, public inspectors, utility company employees, surveyors, etc all have legal rights to enter upon property... so be sure you're following the Four Rules for Firearms Safety, most especially "Know your target (and what's behind it)".

(I've been shot at 3 times going onto land along my employers' utility easements.)

Secondly, and more importantly, our laws have very clearly noted that deadly force can NOT be used to defend property. "Imminent threat of lethal harm or grave bodily injury" (like rape) is the standard... and taking your TV does not count.

This nation was founded on a few ideals that even we conservatives seem to be leaving behind... "Better to let 10 guilty go free than to convict one innocent man"... and... "no mere possession is worth a man's life".

47 posted on 12/02/2012 9:19:28 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Teacher317

I will have to disagree with you.

People who access my property such as service providers (mail, power, water, avon, etc) are not trespassers.

As for knowing my target....you have no need to worry about that on my end. NFI

As for no man’s life being worth a tv, feel free to apply that to your life however I will not.

You come on my property with any criminal intent and I will kill you. No warning shot, no non-lethal shot period.

If I go to prison then I go to prison but that is my choice as a free woman of this country.

It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 9:27:14 AM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: joesjane

Consequences have consequences.


49 posted on 12/02/2012 9:30:18 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: joesjane

I like to follow up on the citizens’ responsibilities, by pointing out that in the Colonial period, policing was provided by elected Sheriffs and the militia. It was expected that able bodied men were armed and willing to respond to anything from an Indian attack, to a hue and cry to stop a criminal.

Only later were additional police organizations created, starting with the municipal night watch becoming a day watch as well as municipal police, and the creation of US Marshals who would pursue criminals across borders, fleeing one Sheriff’s jurisdiction for another.

Police weren’t really turned into paramilitaries until after the Civil War. Only gradually did the citizenry forget their responsibilities to be the first line of defense.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 9:46:17 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Teacher317

You are a fool and you are wrong about “our laws” too, at least where I live.

You come into my house—which is my property, by the way—without my express permission you had better hope I am not home.

This is called the Castle Law where I live, and it is “our law.”

As I have posted elsewhere my tiny hometown had a series of break-ins committed by a youth whose name was known to some (a cell phone was left behind in one incident) but nothing was done, in part because the scumbag had political connections.

The other day he kicked down a door (as he did a couple years ago to an elderly relative of mine) but this time it was in broad daylight and this time he killed a grandmother and three of her grandchildren, shot them all to death with a deer rifle.

How does this fit into your contemptible rules of thumb? Maybe he was only up to nine break-ins before this slaughter, so the other ones didn’t really count? How about the others in the family? Are they supposed to be relieved because “no possessions” were taken this time?

Teacher, hey? Well, you certainly sound like some officious little busybody, that’s for sure.


51 posted on 12/02/2012 9:51:09 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: joesjane

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2964521/posts


52 posted on 12/02/2012 9:52:01 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: Tau Food

Volunteer anything is fighting words for Unions. When a school district had budget problems some parents decided to volunteer by helping out at the library, cleaning up the yard, etc. and the union I worked for stopped it because those were classified as union jobs. Even though the school didn’t hae money to pay for the jobs, the parents couldn’t volunteer. I couldn’t believe it.


53 posted on 12/02/2012 10:05:19 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: joesjane

everyone thinksthe politician is out in front.

most of us already knew this, he’s coming to the party late, and only because the money’s running out.


54 posted on 12/02/2012 10:16:29 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Schools, cops, and fire are always cut.

As they should be. I'm willing to bet that in the vast majority of municipalities, we are over-policed, over-protected from fire, and overcharged for education on a cost-benefit analysis. In my county in suburban NYC, we have state police, county police, county sheriff, city/town/village police, MTA police, Amtrak Police, Port Authority Police, DEP Police, DEC Police, FBI, DEA police, ATF police, and DHS police, and to some extent they all have overlapping jurisdictions. The state, county, and local police all have their own SWAT teams that are rarely needed (although often over-used just because they can) and their own Hudson River Boat Patrols (even though the USCG also patrols the river). Many of the local police officers are pulling down $100k or more and overtime is epidemic especially in the three years proceeding retirment since retirement benefits are based upon the average salary for the last three years of service. And manyof the these police officeers are nothing more than high paid tax collectors. IMHO, every agency at every level of govenment ought to be on the chopping block and if someone tells you there is nothing left to cut, then they are either stupid or lying or both.

55 posted on 12/02/2012 11:04:45 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: joesjane

In other words: a polite society. How nice.


56 posted on 12/02/2012 12:47:13 PM PST by healy61
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To: joesjane

So, if you get tax dollars, you are jammed up if you speak the truth.


57 posted on 12/02/2012 2:17:28 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: joesjane

I think what we’re seeing is the impatience of the hippies.

Hippies are old now...and they finally know it.

Damned if they’re going to die without killing America first...so they’re jumping the gun.

They’ve turned the heat way up but real America is still overwhelmingly strong and terrible in her anger.

We’re living in interesting times.


58 posted on 12/02/2012 5:23:17 PM PST by Freeeedooomm
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