Skip to comments.Amsterdam's legal brothels are a brutal lesson for Britain : sex gangs and race
Posted on 12/01/2012 11:34:53 PM PST by george76
In a chilling parallel to the scandal sweeping Britains towns and cities, where a multitude of girls have been lured into sex-for-sale rings run by gangs, the Dutch pimps search out girls at school gates and in cafes, posing as boyfriends promising romance, fast car rides and restaurant meals.
The men ply their victims with vodka and drugs. They tell them lies: that they love them and their families dont care for them. Then, the trap set, they rape them with other gang members, often taking photos of the attack to blackmail the girl into submission.
Hard-line criminal behaviour is happening behind those windows. Girls are physically abused if they dont work hard enough. It is slavery, which was abolished a long time ago in the Netherlands
Anita de Wit says ... There are thousands of girls being preyed on by male gangs in Holland.
Anita visits schools to warn girls exactly what a lover boy looks like, and makes no bones of the fact that most of the gangs are operated by Dutch-born Moroccan and Turkish men.
I am not politically correct. I am not afraid of being called a racist, which would be untrue. I tell the girls that lover boys are young, dark-skinned and very good looking. They will have lots of money and bling as well as a big car. They will give out cigarettes and vodka. They will tell a girl that she is beautiful.
Anitas bluntness is a far cry from the approach in Britain, where political correctness has stopped police and social workers telling girls the same home truths: that in many towns, particularly in the north of England, the handsome men chatting them up at the school gate are very likely to be of Pakistani descent.
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A feminist revolution that cruelly backfired - and why Amsterdam's legal brothels are a brutal lesson for Britain about telling the truth on sex gangs and race
Well, let's not be hasty!
ROP at it again.....why is anyone surprised????
And what is preventing the Dutch government from cracking down on this blatant criminal behavior? Or are certain people getting the same payoffs they got when it was illegal?
Libertarians will explain how this is fine, 1780 Americans were fine with this as long as they are consenting adults.
Also, an important point in the article is that the Dutch have women going to the schools telling the girls who and what to avoid to keep from being entrapped. This is in contrast to Britain where they are too prudish to go to schools and warn the girls about the same type of entrapment activity.
Isn’t prostitution one of those “victimless crimes”?
Oh bullcrap. They wouldn’t be allright with it, and you need to quit projecting your frustration with candy ass Republicans on them.
At the very least, they, unlike our guys, far more often don’t fold like a cheap suit when the pressure rises and stick to their guns. The only thing they screw up is not making clear that with great gobs of freedom, you get to pay for the consequences of your actions yourself...
Amsterdam may be loose on morality, but thought it was pretty damn serious about the rules.
May the perps suffer a late night, fatal equestrian thumping...
Who are the John’s?...
Must be a lot of John’s..
Sorry, what is it about the Dutch that make them superior to free people? To Americans? To Texans?
I image you mean Libertarians and not libertarians.
Everyone’s sense of govt lies somewhere between libertarianism and statism. And the greatest amount evil occurs on the end of statism; the point at which Mussolini, Mao, Stalin, and Hitler realized their greatest accomplishments.
I naturally, always mean libertarians embrace evil, evil is yours, not America’s.
Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.
Libertarian Party Platform:
Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through political boundaries.
Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.
Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.
Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.
Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.
Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.
Military Strength; minimal capabilities.
Then stop doing it.
Statism (despots) /\ (no comment) / \ / \ Leftism / \ Conservatism \ / \ / (Liberals) \ / (Founding Fathers) \/ Libertarianism
libertarians are not conservative
they confuse liberty and license for one
I find it helps, when I read stories like this one, if I repeat over and over, “Our diversity is our strength!”
>> libertarians are not conservative
Nonsense. I’m a conservative libertarian. You’re probably a conservative statist.
A statist because I don’t think 12 year old, dope-smoking prostitutes should be legal.
Makes you all upset.
You are left, we aren’t.
I meant, he probably thinks there is nothing wrong with illegal alien 12-year old dope-smoking prostitutes in a gay marriage.
Liberaltarian and all that.
Why are you staining FR with that nonsense?
>> You are left, we arent.
Both you and the Leftists require the force of govt to apply your values. I’m for small govt.
That’s the key phrase: consenting adults. These girls are neither. These sex gangs should be deported back to their middle eastern sandboxes, to live with hideous, middle-aged ladies in black bags.
Libertarians condone neither force nor fraud. These sex gangs use both.
I know nothing about UK hookers, but I am very familiar
with Amsterdam’s red light district.
My KLM flights from Memphis landed in AMS.
Since I had plenty of time before an ongoing flight, I would take a quick train ride into the city.
The red light district was a very short walk from the main station.
It was interesting to see the girls in their display windows, but there was also areas off to the side where foreign girls worked.
I passed one such house that was populated with girls from the Dominican Republic.
One enticed me to come up to her room.
While I had no intention of engaging her in sex, it was interesting to see her room and how they operate.
Everything was very clean.
As I was ready to leave, she started unzipping my pants and undoing my belt.
I started making a quick retreat with her chasing me down the hall.
It was an interesting lesson learned.
Anyway, it is interesting to stroll around the district and see the sights.
liberaltarians keep saying “consenting adults” but they aim to end the age of consent too
Something similar is happening here in the good ole USA:
“WJLA.com: The young woman you interviewed for your story was just 16 when she was recruited by the Crips. Tell us how it happened?
Pamela: The young woman I interviewed was a straight-A student from an upper-middle class family from Fairfax, Va. One day in the summer of 2009, she was standing at the Springfield Metro station bus stop and was approached by a Crips gang member. She says he was very charming and made it seem so “normal” to make money by having sex. Ultimately, he was preying on her vulnerabilities as a young girl who had low self- esteem and was still unsure of herself.”
Institutionalized white guilt is also a major factor helping the thugs enslave their prey. 40 years ago this young white victim would have not given the Crips gangbanger the time of day, but now to do this is considered to be “racist” so he was able to get his hooks into her.
...interesting model, but I think viewing this on a continuum expresses it better. Totalitarianism (Communism, other forms of despotism) to the far left, followed closely by Fascism. ...a bit to the right of that: Socialism, then Corporate Socialism, etc. (Democrats are Socialists, Republicans are generally Corporate Socialists.) The other extreme would be Anarchy, not Libertarianism.
For those not comfortable with Libertarianism, try “Natural Law” instead. There is not much difference, and Natural Law relies on morality. The Founding Fathers were clearly Natural Law proponents. They repeatedly referred to the Creator and Providence. The Declaration of Independence is the greatest expression of Natural Law ever penned - although I wish Jefferson had not dropped “property” from Locke’s original.
Remarks appreciated. Definitely a coarse graph, but could probably support the plot points you mentioned.
The important thing to point out is the diverging transparent axes: the horizontal axis represents the moral divide. The vertical axis represents enforcement. Unless there’s another dimension, the plane should suffice.
>> For those not comfortable with Libertarianism, try Natural Law instead.
I’m getting tired of the belligerent bullshit on this matter. I have no intention of sacrificing definitive meaning for the sake of idiocracy.
Hopefully, you brought home a package of tulips.
You might want to go back and look up what the Founders actually did, the laws that they passed.
In today's world they would be considered extremist right-wingers when it came to "imposing their morality" on others.
The problem here is that we extrapolate from the Constitution to their views on society and laws in general. The Constitution is (from an historical perspective) a wildly libertarian document.
This is not because the Founders were libertarians but because they wanted a limited federal government. With rare exceptions the state governments were not limited at all, and used their powers enthusiastically to impose morality.
The Bill of Rights didn't even apply to the states till after the Civil War, and states violated them all the time. For instance, southern states made it a crime to speak in favor of abolition and prohibited abolitionist newspapers, both violations of the First Amendment.
The facts are...libertarianism makes the same mistake that those statist forms of government make. They replace God’s law with human reasoning and consequently we can expect the same results should they ever achieve power.
Why is everyone picking on the librarians ?
Two issues to ponder.
Looks to me you wish to be King. What laws will you impose?
One great feature of Libertarian thought - You are responsible for your actions.
You do drugs, you get no support from the G’ment.
You break the law you are prosecuted to the full extend of the law.
And yes Libertarian principles do not work in the real world with real people who have many faults
The reason is simple: They cannot be truthful. Truth interferes with their cherished, preconceived ideas, and Leftists tend to be convinced that they can improve on truth because their intentions are good.
Honest people, committed to truth for its own sake, with open minds, in free and unimpeded exchange of ideas, can sometimes find the best possible solution to a problem--but of course this is anathema to the Left--just as it is anathema to any other brand of religious fanatics--because truth often conflicts with cherished dogma.
Leftists--and other religious fanatics--love their dogma, those things held as axiomatic, those things that their "faith" recognizes as truth; they have no interest in truth because it often conflicts with dogma.
If Leftists were capable of recognizing and accepting truth--truth for its own sake--they wouldn't be Leftists in the first.
However Leftists have only contempt for truth, so in love are they with dogma.
libertarians, liberals and libertines agree on all too many approaches to making public policy to be neatly separated from each other in any discussion.
the librarians are in an alliance with the pedophiles
Do believe they called themselves something like that ~ but a whole big bunch of their 'gang' were white boys ~ which made them into something of an anomaly in the world of Crips.
Several of them were recently sent to prison ~ without parole ~ so you don't want to get caught doing that stuff here ~ besides MS-13 has it's own boys out there and they cut you up somethin' bad you do that on their turf.
Slavery and evil acts, including a total disregard for the humanity of women.
Exactly. Just as the danger to young girls is greater than ever, PC has lowered their defenses against this type of trap.
You mean “Two Lips”?
“Thats the key phrase: consenting adults. These girls are neither. These sex gangs should be deported back to their middle eastern sandboxes, to live with hideous, middle-aged ladies in black bags.”
Spouting anything that closely resembles logic and reasoning (or even a close approximation to sentient thought of any kind) is frowned upon by many here whenever the phrase “consenting adults” appears, no matter the topic.
If you keep using common sense then people might yell at you.
Thank you for a carefully worded and very accurate correction to the sometimes wild assertions about limited government that show up on this forum. The idea that the founding fathers would have been OK with—or tolerated in law—some of the perversity we now take for granted in the USA is simply ludicrous.
Wait! I have heard them called “sex workers” here, as the left is trying to normalize prostitution. And I am willing to bet that this sort of recruitment is happening a lot more in the US than the media will let us know about. Look for the SEIU to unionize the women.