Posted on 12/01/2012 7:15:07 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
They either don’t learn, or they want every business to collapse
New York Communities for Change = ACORN
Nothing like a $10 or $15 Big Mac to spur business.
Why not just make min wage $1,000,000 per hour? Then we could all be millionaires!
Enjoy the unemployment line....
Why not? It worked so well for Hostess’s employees.
So a Big Mac, fires and a drink will run what - $10?
Sounds the framework for the “Fast Food Workers Full Un-employment Act”
They could move here to West Texas. Panda Express just opened up and is paying $12 for entry level jobs due to the oil boom.
Restaurants can’t keep people since they just go to the oil field.
Then again, they don’t want to have to do anything to better their situation even though that $12 will go much farther here.
When I first read this, I thought it said New York Communists for Change.
Since Obama’s re-election all we see is employees striking ... what is this?
With millions unemployed or under-employed they are LUCKY to have a job ...do they not understand this?
$15 an hour to watch a timer and ask “You want fries wit dat?”
They can be replaced by robots.
These morons crack me up. McDonald’s jobs weren’t meant to be jobs that would support a family. They’re entry level jobs for kids. As you get used to the work environment and your skills/education increase, you leave jobs like this and take higher paying jobs.
If I were McDonalds and the staff voted to unionize, I’d just close the unit.
Then the unions can deal with the out of work former employees.
Attempts have been made to sign them up to a petition demanding that workers be granted the freedom to join a union, and a raise the minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour.
$15 per hour? Why not $25 per hour? Screw that! Let’s go with $50 per hour!
Here is your new replacement
It did. You just have to read between the lines.
Imagine McDonalds without dirty, ebonic speaking employees
Low-pay campaigners estimated in 2010 that an adult with one child living in the least expensive area of the city needs to make $21.85 an hour to be self-sufficient.It takes over $40,000 a year to be self-sufficient in the cheapest area of New York City? Get out of the city. That's what many companies are paying professionals per year.
If any worker making $7 and change honestly and truly wanted to make $15 and change (or more), and happened to have more than 2 neurons in their brain, they’d figure out they needed to perform whatever they were currently assigned to beyond perfection and stand out such that they would be noticed for a promotion to supervisor, management, transfer to the central office and, then, beyond.
People in Hell want Ice Water.
If you hate your job, go get a different job. If you touch a hot stove, you pull your hand away. You don’t stand there complaining about the pain.
Life sure is complicated when you’re stupid. It’s only complicated for the rest of us because stupid people get to Vote. November 6th turned theory into fact.
“The strike, organised by pressure group New York Communities for Change (NYCC)...”
When I first read this, I thought it said New York Communists for Change.
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That’s what I thought. LOL
That’s what it should be.
Actually it did...you just have to understand the code words. :-)
$21.85 an hour
That is more than I make currently. I live quite comfortably.
“These morons crack me up. McDonald’s jobs weren’t meant to be jobs that would support a family. They’re entry level jobs for kids. As you get used to the work environment and your skills/education increase, you leave jobs like this and take higher paying jobs.”
What higher paying jobs would those be?
Manufacturing was dismantled and shipped to a location where labor can be had for pennies on the dollar or skilled tradesman jobs were overrun by illegal immigrants.
That is what it'll run you in Europe.
My husband called me from Stockholm the other day. He had a Subway sub, bag of chips and a coke--$15
hang on... they claim $21.85 an hour (29 hours?) is the minimum needed to live in NYC and then demand $15 an hour?
...........
Their elevators don’t reach all the way to the top do they?
You're gonna bust a 10, and get very little back as it stands right now.
Double their wages, and they will double their prices.
BaraqaClaus will put a boot on the fast food chains throats, so that these folks can get the wages they’re asking for. More Social Justice.
Walk off the job? I'd think they meant to quit and just fire 'em! They might think $8.90/hr is low for a no-skill menial job, but $0 is even less.
Even in the food industry, there are higher class places that pay more than McDonalds.
I once knew a waitress that waited tables at a budget restaurant chain. After she had been there for a few years, I suggested she could make more money by brushing up on her skills and applying at a higher class restaurant.
Why do the same amount of work, for tips based on $7.50 meals, when you could be getting tips on $27.50 to $150.00 dollar meals?
I am sympathetic to your argument, because outsourcing is something I’ve been against for the last twenty years.
People need only take a look at our work environment these days, to see what outsourcing has accomplished.
I consider it downright evil.
“I consider it downright evil.”
It’s just greed. IMHO that’s what the slave wage pay at a fast food place is as well.
I read this thread and saw the contempt for people struggling to get by.
This is the same forum that regularly bashes welfare recipients and yet here’s a group of people working an honest job for a Corp that is worth who knows how much and it’s somehow offensive that the workers try to get more money.
I hate to say it but the attitude of some of the conservatives here toward struggling workers may be why we’re losing everywhere.
A robot won’t spit in your food either
Careful, Ben Bernanke might hear you.
Or take a whiz in the secret sauce.
“When I first read this, I thought it said New York Communists for Change.”
Dude, it does say that, they’ve just wiggled it around a little bit.
These jobs were never intended to be careers, it’s too bad these people were so ill served by the union teachers who taught them that Mickey Ds is the best they can do, job wise.
I said something anti-union at work the other day, I’ve been having a bad month since Sandy and it just popped out of my mouth. To my amazement the 2 gals I said it too agree with me, strongly. One is pretty libertarian and generally aware an involved, but I’m sure the other is a big lib. But they both had NO USE for unions.
I can see unions for cops, firemen, maybe coal miners and others working risky, life-on-the-line jobs, nobody else.
I’m a small remodeling contractor, and there are few young, hardworking English speaking Americans who are willing to work hard in the trades. They want to make $25 an hour for standing around. There is always a large group of Hispanic guys in the Home Depot parking lot who will work cheap. I refuse to hire them because I refuse to hire illegals, and I would never bring someone who I don’t know to a customer’s home. For the most part, I work by myself, taking and pricing jobs accordingly. Hispanic labor has driven labor rates down.
Where in west Texas? hadn’t heard that story.
I hate to say this, but it is not all stupidity, some of it is LAZINESS and it infests even those with high IQs.
true, but if it were just leaking oil into the... oil... who would notice?
:p
“I’m a small remodeling contractor, and there are few young, hardworking English speaking Americans who are willing to work hard in the trades. They want to make $25 an hour for standing around. There is always a large group of Hispanic guys in the Home Depot parking lot who will work cheap. I refuse to hire them because I refuse to hire illegals, and I would never bring someone who I don’t know to a customer’s home. For the most part, I work by myself, taking and pricing jobs accordingly. Hispanic labor has driven labor rates down.”
I live in Texas and until a few years ago I worked as a cabinet maker. Not a serviceman or one of the guys on a production line putting tenon A into mortise B, but a cabinet maker and woodworker who knew the tools and the materials and how to read a blueprint and all the things associated with woodworking and cabinetry.
I gave it up because the wages were actually falling and this was still in the building boom when I was repeatedly told that I should be happy with $10.50 an hour and that the contractors had to hire armies of illegals to keep their prices low, even tho I never saw the price of anything go anywhere but through the roof.
I remember one job interview where the shop forman was up against a really bad deadline. He told me that he had 15 employees, who BTW were all illegals, but not single one of them had skills.
I told him I was interested and I had been making $15 an hour but was willing to start at $12 an hour.
He told me he could start me at $8.50 an hour with an option for a .50 cent an hour raise after 6 months. Then he said that was still a dollar an hour better than flipping burgers.
I agreed it was a dollar an hour better than a burger flipper made and then suggested he go hire a burger flipper.
He was actually kind of POd that I didn’t take the job.
I’ve certainly seen my share of unmotivated workers, but I’ve seen just that many who did want to learn it and get it right.
I don’t think the majority here are against any one trying to make more money as an individual. It’s the “collective” that would rather put a company out of business (Hostess) than take less and save your own job. Even McDonald’s would pay more for experienced hard working people, but our society is crippled. Too many waiting in line for even lousy paying jobs.
I make 11k a year and I live just fine. :)
They want to make more money, they need to get a different job.
If I really need help, I can call two guys I used to work for. They are expensive, but are highly skilled. I cant afford to teach someone. I hang cabinets, frame,build decks,and do crown moulding by myself.
“I don’t think the majority here are against any one trying to make more money as an individual. It’s the “collective” that would rather put a company out of business (Hostess) than take less and save your own job. Even McDonald’s would pay more for experienced hard working people, but our society is crippled. Too many waiting in line for even lousy paying jobs.”
I don’t know. There were some pretty acid tinged posts about these particular workers.
Not arguing for a union but I am wondering. Outside of collective bargaining how do laborers best sell their labor.
I’m much to old believe that any major corp or really large company pays one penny more than they absolutely have to.
I’ve worked for smaller companies that based pay on merit and the better you got at your job the more you got paid. Yet I somehow don’t think that principle really applies to Micky Ds counterhelp.
So why exactly don’t these low skilled workers deserve to be paid up to just below the poverty level.
It’s not like Micky Ds isn’t doing the volume to pay for it.
The really unsettling part was the derision of the posters toward a group of people who are actually trying to make a living working. Would it be better if they quit and went all out on the public dole?
I thought labor was a legitimate business expense. If a company can only remain in business by having their employees live under the poverty line, then maybe they shouldn’t be in business.
They will, too.
“I make 11k a year and I live just fine. :)
They want to make more money, they need to get a different job.”
I’m glad you’re able to live well on less. I’m in that same boat now as well. Unfortunately not everybody has the same options or the same opportunities.
I’d rather see these guys get their raise than move to where I live.
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