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Possible Mississippi River Shutdown Threatens Thousands of Jobs
KMOX-AM ^ | November 30, 2012 | Justin Wingerter

Posted on 12/01/2012 5:14:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s an issue that has plagued states along the Mississippi River for months and has now landed squarely on the desk of President Obama: how to prevent the imminent shutdown of commercial traffic along the nation’s largest waterway.

A nationwide drought, the worst to hit the U.S. in decades, has lowered water levels along the river, threatening barge traffic.

White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters Thursday that the President raised the issue with Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack at Wednesday’s cabinet meeting, directing his administration to take “every step to mitigate” the situation. Carney added that there are a number of “complex” legal and technical steps which can be pursued, saying the Army Corps of Engineers has taken “proactive” measures.

The biggest obstacle is jagged rocks jutting up from the bottom of the Mississippi which make it impossible for barges to move.

“The Corps needs to get in there and literally blow them up to get them out of the way or we will be either extremely limited or completely shut down some time between December 15 and December 30,” Senior Vice President of Regional Advocacy for the American Waterways Operators Lynn Muench said. “If we do lose the river between mid-December and January, the jobs that are at risk in Missouri are almost 3,000 jobs.”

Muench said she’s reached out to President Obama and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, mirroring an effort Thursday by Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster...

(Excerpt) Read more at stlouis.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; economy; layoffs; mississippi; mississippiriver; missouri; obama; trade
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1 posted on 12/01/2012 5:14:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

whoa


2 posted on 12/01/2012 5:17:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps when Obama stopped the rise of the oceans he should have left the Mississippi alone....;-)


3 posted on 12/01/2012 5:19:00 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A fathom off mark twain. Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 5:19:14 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Corps of engineers handles waterborne trade routes.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 5:19:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought for sure this was going to be another union goons on strike story.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 5:19:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The EPA will find some rare and endangered slug in the area and forbid any blasting ... after a 5 year study


7 posted on 12/01/2012 5:20:25 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

directing his administration to take “every step to mitigate” the situation. Carney added that there are a number of “complex” legal and technical steps which can be pursued, saying the Army Corps of Engineers has taken “proactive” measures.

FEMA suggestion: ship some of the left over water from the SuperDuper Once-in-Eon Storm Sandy to the Mississippi. Probably a big hose could handle it.


8 posted on 12/01/2012 5:22:25 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: GeronL

Obama directed them to take every appropriate measure and to strictly avoid any measures that might lead to a mistake.

He might have even thrown in a “report back to me” somewhere for good measure.

That is leadership folks.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 5:22:39 PM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So how does one go about dynamiting these rocks without creating the river equivalent of tsunamis?


10 posted on 12/01/2012 5:22:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: RightGeek

find some rare and endangered slug in the area

Probably in a local office .... a supervisor!


11 posted on 12/01/2012 5:25:05 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: willyd

lol.


12 posted on 12/01/2012 5:28:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Do I recall incorrectly or were there dams in place that the current administation demanded to be kept open last year? Or was that on the Missori?


13 posted on 12/01/2012 5:29:43 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lower the sea levels, raise the river levels, what’s a Marxist manchild to do?


14 posted on 12/01/2012 5:30:05 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: willyd

Really. Well, send in then Corpsemen


15 posted on 12/01/2012 5:31:14 PM PST by technically right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“The Corps needs to get in there and literally blow them up to get them out of the way or we will be either extremely limited or completely shut down some time between December 15 and December 30,”

One thing the Corp is not capable of doing is moving fast.

16 posted on 12/01/2012 5:32:24 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Union jobs vs. wetlands. Hmm, I’ll just vote “present.”


17 posted on 12/01/2012 5:33:53 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Low-Flow Toilets. Bring back the old porcelain kings, and you could float an aircraft carrier.


18 posted on 12/01/2012 5:33:53 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: GeronL
There are only tiny streaks of snow on the peaks of the east side of the Continental Divide here for now (central Rockies). The peaks are mostly bare. The drought is covering a much larger geographical area than the drought of the Dust Bowl era. Drought Forecast from the NOAA site (weather.gov):






19 posted on 12/01/2012 5:34:34 PM PST by familyop
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Globull warming doctrine manages to have it both ways. Droughts on the interior, and too much ocean. As if those were the only possibilities for water liberated from land ice in temperate climes to go.

As a “denier” I played around with the mind of a “believer” on Facebook the other day. I said when they were growing grapes in Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period, where were all the complaints about swamped shoreline cities? For that matter, where are all the American Indian legends about deserts that grew then receded, that ought to have followed?


20 posted on 12/01/2012 5:35:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: umgud

Of course, if you had to study and plan something like that, it is not going to be fast


21 posted on 12/01/2012 5:35:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blueunicorn6

I am pro-choice on light bulbs and commodes.


22 posted on 12/01/2012 5:36:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: willyd
That is leadership folks.

Obama is no leader, he is the Messiah!!!

23 posted on 12/01/2012 5:39:12 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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And the admin’s response will be: find an environmental reason for not dredge-blasting so we can attach more citizens to the taxpayers’ teat.


24 posted on 12/01/2012 5:42:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We could release water from the dams in the Missippi basin. Oh, wait, we have removed 888 of them in the US:

2010 Dam Removals

25 posted on 12/01/2012 5:43:28 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Chickensoup

They keep the dams on the Missouri closed and filled. That way when the spring snowmelt hits, it can flood that part of the midwest.


26 posted on 12/01/2012 5:44:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: GeronL
Currently, from...
http://www.drought.gov/drought/content/products-current-drought-and-monitoring-drought-indicators/us-drought-monitor





27 posted on 12/01/2012 5:46:59 PM PST by familyop
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To: GeronL
Of course, if you had to study and plan something like that, it is not going to be fast

Point well taken, but I've worked with the Corp over 30 years and I'm not impressed.

28 posted on 12/01/2012 5:47:56 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: umgud

true.

It’s a big job sounds like, but I guess the private sector could be contracted to do it faster


29 posted on 12/01/2012 5:50:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thursday that the President raised the issue with Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack at Wednesday’s cabinet meeting,

Wait'... Obama had a Cabinet Meeting ???

Stop the presses....

30 posted on 12/01/2012 5:55:53 PM PST by Popman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"directing his administration to take “every step to mitigate” the situation."

Unless it kills a fish or something.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


31 posted on 12/01/2012 5:57:10 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: willyd
Obama directed them to take every appropriate measure and to strictly avoid any measures that might lead to a mistake. He might have even thrown in a “report back to me” somewhere for good measure. That is leadership folks.


32 posted on 12/01/2012 5:59:13 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet all those union folks are going to be protesting Mother Nature now.....


33 posted on 12/01/2012 6:03:17 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: familyop

They have the Central Coast of California in a state of “moderate drought.” I say bull-crap. Last year was dry, but the two years before were abnormally wet. It has been the wettest fall here in as far back as my records go. Hence, I’d like to know how they calculate “drought.”


34 posted on 12/01/2012 6:08:09 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: GeronL
Watch out for the false prophecies.
35 posted on 12/01/2012 6:23:39 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: GeronL
Watch out for the false prophecies.
36 posted on 12/01/2012 6:23:45 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: Carry_Okie

Being a fellow resident of CA, I agree with you and I have noticed that every time we are at normal, or slightly below normal rainfall, the CA politicians scream drought and try to tax the hell out of us plus they like the control they have over people by telling them to buy low flush toilets, slow leak shower heads and the like. We are not in a drought in CA and haven’t been since the one back in the 80s.


37 posted on 12/01/2012 6:24:59 PM PST by calex59
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To: Vince Ferrer
We could release water from the dams in the Missippi basin. Oh, wait, we have removed 888 of them in the US.

Doing a bang up job of it too. In this case a private investor offered to spend the money to restore generating capacity and they refused him.

Dam Removal Mishap Raises More Questions, Concerns
38 posted on 12/01/2012 6:26:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: calex59
I have noticed that every time we are at normal, or slightly below normal rainfall, the CA politicians scream drought and try to tax the hell out of us plus they like the control they have over people by telling them to buy low flush toilets, slow leak shower heads and the like.

The goal is to create a usable supply for more development. The projections are for a California population of over 50 million.

39 posted on 12/01/2012 6:35:10 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
2nd Chronicles 7:13-14, "If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

Pay close attention to the first part of the scripture, not so much the second part. Anyone care to take a guess at how many of those 3 conditions haven't been met yet?

This is proper teaching of the scriptures. There was a reason for why Solomon was given what is contained in verse 14; it's because of what's in verse 13!

It's too bad you'll never see the entire passage laid out before this disbelieving nation, a finger pointed at them and the accusation leveled. No one on a national stage has the courage.

40 posted on 12/01/2012 7:19:35 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

most likely whatever they to make Mississippi River transport better for the moment will have unintended consequences somewhere, sometime down the road when “normal” water levels and the usual flooding returns


41 posted on 12/01/2012 7:58:10 PM PST by Wuli
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To: umgud

Corps of Engineers fast?

A little known fact: Within six months of Hurricane Katrina, George Bush and the Corps had in place flood gates and bypass pumps at the lake end of the New Orleans outflow canals. These “temporary” structures, if operational at the time of Katrina, would have prevented the flooding of those portions of New Orleans flooded from the breaching of the outflow canal walls. The apparent cost of each structure was well within what could have been covered by any of the areas’ political jurisdictions. The political will to do what was necessary did not exist until the hard hearted “W” gave the thankless city this freebie.


42 posted on 12/01/2012 8:09:45 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is the muslim Kenyan equivalent to the North American Indian rain dance??

Time to get Zer0 and the Mooch, along with momma Robinson and the two spawns out on a barge, and do their costumed rain chant.

All will be better once the Won solves all our problems.


43 posted on 12/01/2012 8:21:14 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the President raised the issue with Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack at Wednesday’s cabinet meeting, directing his administration to take “every step to mitigate” the situation.

Similar to the hollow statement Obama made Nov 14th on Benghazi, "I can tell you that, immediately after finding out that our folks are in danger, that my orders to my security team was to do whatever we need to do to keep our people safe."

44 posted on 12/01/2012 8:33:05 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This BS story comes with perfect timimg for Zero to sign the UN resolution for limit everything but the increase of taxes. The Kenyan socialist needs to be impeached. The murders of four patriots in Bengazi, a border patrol agent and hundreds of Mexicans (Fast and the Furious) is far more reasons than we need to impeach and imprison this criminal. Just me stating this is enough reason for Obama’s regime to have me thrown into prison for hurting Obama’s feelings.
45 posted on 12/01/2012 8:38:33 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This BS story comes with perfect timimg for Zero to sign the UN resolution for limit everything but the increase of taxes. The Kenyan socialist needs to be impeached. The murders of four patriots in Bengazi, a border patrol agent and hundreds of Mexicans (Fast and the Furious) is far more reasons than we need to impeach and imprison this criminal. Just me stating this is enough reason for Obama’s regime to have me thrown into prison for hurting Obama’s feelings.
46 posted on 12/01/2012 8:38:45 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This BS story comes with perfect timimg for Zero to sign the UN resolution for limit everything but the increase of taxes. The Kenyan socialist needs to be impeached. The murders of four patriots in Bengazi, a border patrol agent and hundreds of Mexicans (Fast and the Furious) is far more reasons than we need to impeach and imprison this criminal. Just me stating this is enough reason for Obama’s regime to have me thrown into prison for hurting Obama’s feelings.
47 posted on 12/01/2012 8:39:41 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This BS story comes with perfect timing for Zero to sign the UN resolution for limit everything but the increase of taxes. The Kenyan socialist needs to be impeached. The murders of four patriots in Benghazi, a border patrol agent and hundreds of Mexicans (Fast and the Furious) is far more reasons than we need to impeach and imprison this criminal. Just me stating this is enough reason for Obama’s regime to have me thrown into prison for hurting Obama’s feelings.
48 posted on 12/01/2012 8:40:25 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Sorry, but the goal is to gain control over the masses, this is just one more way for the liberals to pass onerous laws that force us to choose between common sense and being a criminal. It is easy to solve the water problem in CA, that way is desalinization plants built off the coast. We have more water than we could ever use on this planet, why aren't we doing every thing we can to use it?

One reason(the main reason): Liberals throwing up environmental issues to stop any such projects before they get off the ground. If they were truly interested in our water supply, and our energy supply as well, then they wouldn't stop desalinization plants and they wouldn't stop drilling.

49 posted on 12/01/2012 10:06:15 PM PST by calex59
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To: Cheerio

“Just one very somple question”

And now we know the answer, unfortunately.


50 posted on 12/01/2012 10:30:57 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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