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San Francisco Woman Apprehends Burglar with Bear Spray [armed citizen]
yahoo.com ^ | December 1, 2012 | Jessica Ferri

Posted on 12/01/2012 4:30:19 PM PST by grundle

Sick and tired of a burglar stealing packages from homes in her neighborhood, a San Francisco woman took matters into her own hands on Tuesday, according to the Daily Mail.

Luring the thief with a dummy package, Sonya Yu sprayed him with bear repellent and threatened him with a wooden sword, chasing him away. Minutes later, the alleged burglar, Andy Anduha, 51, was apprehended by law enforcement.

Protect your home from theft this holiday season

Yu, a photographer, recounted the entire incident on her Twitter account as events unfolded.

Yu informed her followers that several items had been stolen by Anduha. "He steals packages from door stoops - stole $1K+ worth from us earlier in the fall. He's been targeting our neighborhood."

"My bear spray, bokken, & I are still not intimidated,'" she tweeted Tuesday at 2:10 p.m. A bokken is a wooden sword used for samurai training.

Shortly after 4:45 p.m. the same day she tweeted, "I GOT HIM WITH THE BEAR SPRAY BUT HE ESCAPED." Then, less than 15 minutes later, "I AM PUTTING HIM UNDER CITIZENS ARREST RIGHT NOW WITH 4 COPS."

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KEYWORDS: altereddate; armedcitizen

1 posted on 12/01/2012 4:30:28 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Bear spray is dangerous and harsh and can blind humans. Good for her.


2 posted on 12/01/2012 4:33:17 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: grundle

Tweeting while chasing burglars might be bad for your health


3 posted on 12/01/2012 4:34:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: grundle

perp.

4 posted on 12/01/2012 4:39:30 PM PST by gaijin
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To: grundle

Working for the right to arm bears!


5 posted on 12/01/2012 4:41:46 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: grundle

Wasp and hornet spray is rumored to be a cheaper alternative to bear spray, and it doesn’t arouse suspicion like bear spray does.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 4:45:07 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: grundle

Buckshot would have been more effective but would have gotten her arrested in San Francisco.


7 posted on 12/01/2012 4:47:30 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: gaijin

Sonya Yu

8 posted on 12/01/2012 4:50:37 PM PST by gaijin
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To: righttackle44
Bear spray is nothing but a stronger form of pepper spray. will temporary blind some but no permanent damage.

Wasp and hornet spray could very well do permanent damage.

I wouldn't recommend wasp or hornet spray except to save ones life.

9 posted on 12/01/2012 4:55:25 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner
I wouldn't recommend wasp or hornet spray except to save ones life.

I wouldn't be spraying someone unless I felt they could harm me anyhow, and if you're in my house (or yard) and attempting to steal from me, all bets are off.. My weapons of choice on the job not too long ago was screen opener (nasty stuff) or web spray adhesive. In fact that reminds me I need to stock up on a few things.
10 posted on 12/01/2012 5:01:45 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: righttackle44

What works better is wasp spray...nasty stuff and has better range than bear spray. People in the Yukon Territory often carry wasp spray instead of bear.


11 posted on 12/01/2012 5:15:07 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: grundle

Since it’s CA and esp. SF., she’ll be charged with using a product for which it wasn’t intended. Now if she were protecting herself from a bear, well then ....


12 posted on 12/01/2012 5:16:10 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: gaijin

Obviously one of Obama’s voters!


13 posted on 12/01/2012 5:29:19 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: visualops
Pepper Spray isn't considered deadly force. There are situations where spraying some one could be justified but using deadly force would not be.

Using spray where one was justified in using deadly force could be acceptable but maybe not wise.

Using deadly force where one was only justified in use a lesser degree of force will land one in a lot of trouble.

Using force that causes some one permanent damage may or may not be justifiable.

Using pepper spray is not considered to be causing permanent damage. Where other sprays that have not been developed for use against humans or animals might be considered excessive.

14 posted on 12/01/2012 5:36:24 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: grundle

Didn’t see it yet.... but it the Food Stamp President had a son .....


15 posted on 12/01/2012 5:38:54 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In 1973, when I was an AF captain assigned to Hill AFB, UT, the Ogden Air Logistic Center Commander, my boss and I were given a guided tour of Tooele Army Depot. At that time Tooele held much of the US stockpile of nerve gas. The person giving us the tour told us that Black Flag insect spray had the same ingredients as nerve gas, only in a very greatly dilute form. So, if you spray enough of the Black Flag insect spray on the perp you may put out his lights permanently, not that I would feel too bad about that.


16 posted on 12/01/2012 5:44:16 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: grundle

I was out hiking when I found myself between a grizzly sow and her cubs. She immediately charged me. I reached into my pack for my can of wasp spray when I remembered I had used it at home and forgot to put it back. I had one of those OFF mosquito fan things, so I turned it on and pointed it at her. She pulled up right in front of me and grabbed the machine.
“My, my,” she said. “What will they think of next?”
Then she ate me.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 5:44:38 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: grundle
So here's my cartoon treatment of this story.
18 posted on 12/01/2012 5:47:43 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: righttackle44

Bear spray is milder than the pepper spray made to defend against people.


19 posted on 12/01/2012 5:55:48 PM PST by familyop
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To: NonValueAdded

Oh, dangerous man
The sulphurous cloud engulfs
Running away’s naught.


20 posted on 12/01/2012 6:07:11 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: grundle
A bokken is no toy training tool. Miyamoto Musashi the legendary samurai. converted to using a bokken early in his career. He ended up closing the books on around 60 opponents using mostly a wooden sword. Good for her. Wish she had gotten in some good hits before the cops showed up.
21 posted on 12/01/2012 6:21:31 PM PST by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: SkyDancer; grundle; Bubba_Leroy; gaijin; visualops; RightWingConspirator; NonValueAdded

“Since it’s CA and esp. SF., she’ll be charged with using a product for which it wasn’t intended.”

You’re not far off... the SF Comical calls her a “vigilante”.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/law-and-disorder/2012/11/vigilante-s-efforts-help-lead-noe-valley-theft-suspect-s-arrest


22 posted on 12/01/2012 6:33:09 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

OK. Ya gotta now tell me what that’s from.


23 posted on 12/01/2012 6:35:57 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? [NRA Life Member])
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To: aquila48

I guess then you could add disorderly conduct to her charges. What right did she have to interrupt someone going about their daily business. It was his job to burgle .../sarc


24 posted on 12/01/2012 6:39:33 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: aquila48

I guess then you could add disorderly conduct, harassment and assault to her charges. What right did she have to interrupt someone going about their daily business. It was his job to burgle .../sarc


25 posted on 12/01/2012 6:40:19 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

he sees what he wants

he takes what he wants

she gives him what he deserves

26 posted on 12/01/2012 6:41:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: righttackle44

Little correction of my last comment here. Some (not all) pepper sprays for defense against people may be as weak as bear spray, but the stronger ones aren’t. [EPA says that more than 2 percent O.C. is inhumane, or something like that.] Bears are more sensitive to the stuff than humans.

For bear defense (if needed) while doing chores, though, I’d rather rely on a Ruger Blackhawk hot-rodded with special, hardened, heavy and somewhat fast, flat-nosed .45 Colt loads (or .44 magnum for those who like the extra bit of recoil while lacking single action training). ...but no bear problems around here. In their season, they frequently walk right on by this place for water and mind their own business.


27 posted on 12/01/2012 6:45:28 PM PST by familyop
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To: gaijin

I suspect that’s it’s a felony to use bear spray on a person, except in a life-threatening situation, which this doesn’t appear to be close to. So she did take some chance here.

Having said that, she is definitely NOT GUILTY, for multiple reasons.


28 posted on 12/01/2012 7:05:49 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: rmh47

It was my very poor attempt at a haiku.


29 posted on 12/01/2012 7:16:40 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: riverrunner

If I have something under my sink, and I grab and use it to ward someone off, they’ll regret it if they decide I was in error to use whatever I had on hand. I will use that soapbox.


30 posted on 12/01/2012 7:29:39 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: grundle; Bubba_Leroy; SkyDancer; aquila48; BobL
This is San Fransicko, so this gal is likely in for some serious trouble, the progressive trash and media will demonize her and her bait method would only be allowed for gathering video evidence.

Eventually she will have to defend against assault and battery charges and possibly attempted maiming. Just give 'em a little time.

A jury may save her but not from the costs. Finally she will have to face the perp's civil suit.

31 posted on 12/01/2012 7:33:49 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

They’re importing the moronic laws from the UK where the perpetrator is the innocent party and the victim the assaulter.


32 posted on 12/01/2012 7:36:06 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

SF is also world class at creating their own moronic laws.


33 posted on 12/01/2012 7:46:23 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Some of what I read about SF is maddening. Not just the laws. One time a few years back our service men were returning to the US and the plane made a fuel stop but not at Travis AFB. I think it was the main airport there. Anyway the mayor of SF forbade the troops from disembarking for a leg stretch while the plane refueled. Didn’t want our service people in their city environs.


34 posted on 12/01/2012 7:50:36 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: RightWingConspirator

Actually, not any more.

The most potent forms of nerve gas(es) (eg, VX, GA, GB, GC) are based on the chemical family known as “organophosphates,” of which common farm pesticides like malathion and dimethoate are also members.

Since the mid-90’s, the EPA has so restricted OP’s that most unrestricted user pesticides have gone to permethrin-based chemicals, which is a different chemistry. There’s no nerve gas of which I’m aware that is based on permethrin chemistry.

The unrestricted pesticides you can buy over-the-counter without an applicator’s permit are so dilute, you’d have to dunk a perp in a 55 gallon drum of the concentrate to make them even a little sick.

Now, there are some restricted pesticides that can kill your ass dead, but you’re not going to find any of them at Home Depot...


35 posted on 12/01/2012 8:05:38 PM PST by NVDave
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To: SkyDancer
Ahh, yes, it brings back the San Francisco hail of "baby killer" and spitting when I returned.

San Franciscans are America's most fully developed useful idiots. You could sell 'em an anchor while they are drowning if ya told 'em it was gay.

36 posted on 12/01/2012 8:26:28 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: righttackle44

Bear spray is dangerous and harsh and can blind humans. Good for her.

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Wasp spray has better range and might well render the target blind,,,,,,make a begger out of a burgler maybe.


37 posted on 12/01/2012 11:25:19 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Nothing so vexes me as a Democrat above ground. Enforce the Bill of Rights.)
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To: S.O.S121.500
Wasp spray has better range

Wasp spray is also an effective bear spray.

38 posted on 12/01/2012 11:27:45 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
It was my very poor attempt at a haiku.

Hey, don't sell yourself short. I thought it was pretty good. I was figuring Homer or Virgil. That's pretty good company.

BTW, were you aware that modern scholars now thing that the Iliad and the Odyssey were not written by Homer, but instead were written by another ancient Greek who had the same name?

39 posted on 12/02/2012 2:00:53 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? [NRA Life Member])
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To: visualops

I am very much in favor of using improvised weapons under the proper circumstances.


40 posted on 12/02/2012 3:15:57 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: grundle

Wasp and Hornet Spray is Cheaper and probably works better

TT

(I carry 2 cans in my truck, one for each hand)


41 posted on 12/02/2012 8:56:22 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: gaijin

HOT!


42 posted on 12/02/2012 8:57:33 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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