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Double-Barrel 1911 Lands ATF Approval, Importation To Begin Next Year
GUNS.com ^ | 11.27.2012 | Max Slowik

Posted on 11/30/2012 7:44:34 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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Double-barrel 1911 lands ATF approval, importation to begin next year

The ATF has given Arsenal the green light to import their double-barreled, double-everything 1911. Arsenal turned a lot of heads a few months back when they announced their truly unique handgun, the AF2011-A1, but many assumed that the gun would never wind up for sale in the U.S., because it fires two cartridges with one pull of the trigger, making it a machine gun according to federal law.

Arsenal maintained that their double trigger design, and matching pair of sears and hammers, would not raise the hackles of the gatekeepers of the guns, and they were right on the money. From their press release:

"The US Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has officially granted import permission and sale in the United States of America of the AF2011-A1 Second Century double barrel pistol, with a total score of 120 Points, according to Form 4590.

"Arsenal Firearms Group proudly announces the official distribution to America of the whole line of double barrel firearms and dedicated accessories starting on January the 1st 2013, through the appointed US Importer of Record, Apex International LLC of Middletown, CT and according to a 'Direct Dealer Distribution.'

"The Company wishes to take this opportunity to thank warmly the millions of followers, enthusiasts and supporters in the United States of America and worldwide: they are part of the dream and indeed our main reason to be."

We can't help but be excited about this crazy handgun. Yes, it's ridiculous, we completely agree with that. It's two inches thick and weighs four pounds unloaded. Even with a full set of magazines it's got a capacity of 8+8+1+1 rounds, and it's probably going to cost a cubic foot of money.

It's just… we're so surprised that this gun is going to even be available. How can we not want to get behind one?

Arsenal says that they will have a full line of firearms and accessories and they will launch all of it at the 2013 SHOT Show. This may mean just the AF2011-A1, but we hope it means their Second Century double 1911 chambered in .38 Super and also their highly-anticipated Strizh pistols.

Their Strizh, or Strike One as they plan to market it in the U.S., is a truly 21st century handgun, a striker-fired pistol built on either a polymer or alloy frame designed for law enforcement and competition use. The Russian ministry of defense has already announced that they intend to retire the Makarov and replace it with the Strizh.

Arsenal is a joint Russian and Italian firm that's still just a couple of years old, but they have our attention to say the least. Their designs are innovative and promising, and the wait between now and SHOT Show is going to kill us.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 1911; atf; badass; banglist; baqnglist; batfe; browning; doublebarrel; doublebarrelpistol; doubledoubletap; doubletrouble; doublevision; gunsandammo; handguns; novelty; twins
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Sweeeeeeeet ... I'd like to get a pair of these!

1 posted on 11/30/2012 7:44:45 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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FYI ...

Arsenal Firearms official announcement and Press Release:

http://www.arsenalfirearms.com/


2 posted on 11/30/2012 7:46:26 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

“Go ahead, punk. Make my day. Go ahead, punk. Make my day.”

;)


3 posted on 11/30/2012 7:49:27 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: DogByte6RER
"You said I'm boring. My gun has two barrels. That's not boring."...
4 posted on 11/30/2012 7:50:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Frank_2001

It’s double-double tap hardware!


5 posted on 11/30/2012 7:51:00 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Oh NO. Now I have got to buy one or two!!!!


6 posted on 11/30/2012 7:52:06 PM PST by therut
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To: DogByte6RER

Interesting gun tho I doubt it’s real practicability.

On the other hand it would give a double tap each time.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 7:52:52 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Looks like an awkward and ungainly piece of crap.


8 posted on 11/30/2012 7:53:47 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: DogByte6RER

Repetition can often be the best education.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 7:54:23 PM PST by soycd
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To: DogByte6RER

Dumbest gun ever. What happens if you only pull one trigger? It only has one slide. One round fires, the other doesn’t.

I guess that it would be a great conversation starter, but the conversation would start with “You spent how much on that ridiculous contraption???”


10 posted on 11/30/2012 7:55:40 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SpaceBar

Maybe...but it will really be a head turner at the range.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 7:55:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DogByte6RER

Crazy machinists. I’m in!


12 posted on 11/30/2012 7:57:30 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Double-barrel 1911 lands ATF approval...

ATF trying to strut confidence in a fight, giving patriots a bit more power when pitted against all their hollow points.

13 posted on 11/30/2012 7:59:17 PM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: DogByte6RER

Is there a purpose to this contraption?


14 posted on 11/30/2012 8:00:09 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Bryanw92

I think it only has one trigger so both barrels would fire. Of course one could just load one barrel and I doubt there would be enough recoil to function the gun.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 8:03:42 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: DogByte6RER

There is something about this when I look at it that reminds me of teats on a boar.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 8:04:35 PM PST by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: andyk
Crazy machinists. I’m in!

Definitely a machinist's gun. Can't say it looks very practical, but it is a nice piece of machine work.

17 posted on 11/30/2012 8:05:55 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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18 posted on 11/30/2012 8:07:09 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: DogByte6RER

Very practical................If you’re a freaking super villain.


19 posted on 11/30/2012 8:09:04 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Frank_2001

Double taps made easy.


20 posted on 11/30/2012 8:09:41 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: yarddog
Interesting gun tho I doubt it’s real practicability.

What's the recoil is the big question. Firing one round is more then enough for most. Two at a time?????

Sounds like some sales gimic to me, not a serious weapon.

21 posted on 11/30/2012 8:12:43 PM PST by Ditto
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To: DogByte6RER

If it is not too clumsy and heavy to handle, I could actually see a use for it.

Two shots more than double the effect. So it should really be a heavy hitter. Recoil would also be doubled tho the extra weight would help some.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 8:14:49 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Ditto

How much would this stepson of a gun cost?


23 posted on 11/30/2012 8:30:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DogByte6RER

What a thing of beauty.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 8:34:15 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: DogByte6RER

25 posted on 11/30/2012 8:34:36 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: DogByte6RER
because it fires two cartridges with one pull of the trigger,

I fired hundreds of rounds through an M 1911 when I was on the unit pistol team back in the late 70s early 80s. We had "rack weapons" that were not modified in any way, and the trigger pull had to be over four lbs. I have two 1911 pistols, one standard and one match grade. I can't imagine two rounds firing at the same time. I've fired a .44 magnum and thought that thing had recoil.

26 posted on 11/30/2012 8:36:40 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: yarddog

But what happens if the bullets collide in mid air!?


27 posted on 11/30/2012 8:37:38 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: tumblindice

Perhaps the two barrels should diverge at an angle of, say 7* laterally in your example.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 8:40:00 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: yarddog

You can order it with linked or separate triggers.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 8:41:26 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: SgtHooper

If the bullets hit, it would throw them both way off.

I doubt they would tho as the barrels are parallel. Also one would probably exit the barrel a split second ahead or behind the other.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 8:44:29 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: SgtHooper

Or when ya get a FTF on one side and a FTE on the other side both simultaneously after the same trigger press! For sure an interesting looking weapon tho.


31 posted on 11/30/2012 8:44:37 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: One Name

Ike and Mike think alike. They think it’s ugly.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 8:46:02 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SpaceBar
So what happens when you have a stove pipe/jam on one side and not the other?

Or worse a double jam. Oh the fun of having to clear two jams at once in a gun fight. Sometimes simple is better.

33 posted on 11/30/2012 8:46:53 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: DogByte6RER

I always thought a double barreled Uzi or Sterling SMG would be cool.


34 posted on 11/30/2012 8:58:40 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: DogByte6RER

for some reason i smell something foul with the atf approval. like something to use for gun control when used in a crime. perhaps i am mistaken. perhaps not.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 9:01:06 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: tumblindice

They should know.

That picture always reminds me of an album cover I once owned by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils.

Now I gotta go find the picture...


36 posted on 11/30/2012 9:08:39 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: tumblindice
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37 posted on 11/30/2012 9:09:34 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Perfect good-guy weapon for Zombie and James Bond movies.

We could fill the entire comment section with double barreled trick shot fantasy scenes.

38 posted on 11/30/2012 9:31:49 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: DogByte6RER
..... My guess is that only people with King Kong sized hands would be able to comfortably handle these monstrosities.

Single barreled weapons built on the 1911 frame were easily gripped by the average person ..... something tells me that it ain't gonna be the case with these puppies.

39 posted on 11/30/2012 10:34:11 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: DogByte6RER

Didja just call me 4-eyes? Huh, punk didja?
(Clint Eastwood voice) :)


40 posted on 11/30/2012 10:38:51 PM PST by ssschev (Pick up the can, throw out the trash.)
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To: DogByte6RER

(reply unintelligible due to excessive drool on keyboard)


41 posted on 11/30/2012 11:24:35 PM PST by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: DogByte6RER
Frankly, I would rather have an LAR Grizzly in 45 WinMag. It's a 1911 pattern. More powder behind each round than 45Auto. A friend allowed me to pop off 10 rounds in exchange for the same number from my Ruger SuperRedhawk with my favorite .454 Casull load. The backstrap on the Grizzly is stippled. It let a real impression on me :-)
42 posted on 11/30/2012 11:43:58 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: SpaceBar

I agree, how much does this thing weigh?


43 posted on 12/01/2012 3:03:14 AM PST by Husker24
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To: SpaceBar

I agree, how much does this thing weigh?


44 posted on 12/01/2012 3:04:14 AM PST by Husker24
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To: DogByte6RER
I like the looks of it, but it seem impracticable from a recoil and possible jamming standpoint. Not matter how much you clean a semi-automatic, or use the proper ammunition, they are prone to jam. That is the one advantage to a revolver - they hardly ever jam.

But, this double barrel 1911 seems great for collection....and "just having one." Kind of like these handguns that are cool, but on the battlefield or back alley I would choose another weapon if I had my druthers:

Although....the little Berreta is one hell of a great size for a concealed weapon!

45 posted on 12/01/2012 4:15:19 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: yarddog
Interesting gun tho I doubt it’s real practicability.

Agree. Here is yet another one that is really cool......but......well.


46 posted on 12/01/2012 4:17:23 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: yarddog
Interesting gun tho I doubt it’s real practicability.

I'm with you. I wonder if you can fire one barrel at a time. If so, does the slide lock back when a particular side is out or when both sides are spent> It seems more like an ammo waster than anything else - my 1911 was made in 1914 and is still a fine and reliable weapon - if I needed a second shot, the 1/4" or so separation between barrels wouldn't be helpful - better to just squeeze off another one.

47 posted on 12/01/2012 4:58:23 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: DogByte6RER

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12377578@N07/5459525745/lightbox/


48 posted on 12/01/2012 7:33:03 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: DogByte6RER
Just because you CAN do something does not mean that you SHOULD do it.
49 posted on 12/01/2012 8:38:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Try and go concealed carry with that monster I think you’d have to wear a brace on your weak side just to stay upright.


50 posted on 12/01/2012 9:35:20 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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