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Boehner on 'Cliff' Talks: 'We're Almost Nowhere'
CNBC ^ | November 30,2012

Posted on 11/30/2012 1:15:30 PM PST by Hojczyk

House Speaker John Boehner lashed out Friday at President Barack Obama, saying negotiations to avoid the "fiscal cliff" are "almost nowhere."

Boehner spoke after Republicans disclosed that the White House was $1.6 trillion in tax increases up front, as well as $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. (Read More: Speaker Boehner Discusses 'Fiscal Cliff.')

Boehner said the plan would be a "crippling blow" to an economy that is still struggling to find its footing.

"There's a stalemate. Let's not kid ourselves," the Ohio Republican told reporters. "Right now, we're almost nowhere,"

Even so, he added, he was determined to continue working with Obama.

A half-trillion-dollar combination of governmental spending cuts and tax increases for all Americans would automatically go into effect in January, threatening to send the country back into recession. Obama is pressing for an extension of Bush-era tax cuts only for individuals making less than $200,000 or families making under $250,000. He wants a tax increase for the wealthiest Americans.

A tax increase on middle class families would be like a "lump of coal" for Christmas, Obama said Friday during a campaign-style visit to a toy factory in Pennsylvania.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; debtlimit; fiscalcliff; negotiations

1 posted on 11/30/2012 1:15:36 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Were not exactly “nowhere”...

Wherever you go, boehner, there you are!

Anyways, walk away... there is nothing to gain by negotiating with a Cloward-Pivenist Marxist 0bamalogue.


2 posted on 11/30/2012 1:18:00 PM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: Hojczyk
I say... fool pass a bill in the House and send it to the senate and go home..let the senate pass a bill and then settle it..it is how the game is played 100 senators and 435 house members..make the fools vote..
3 posted on 11/30/2012 1:18:19 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

I think its safe to say the Grand Negro and his dems want to take the ride down the cliff. After all they get higher taxes and a bunch of defense cuts.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 1:20:29 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Hojczyk

Well Mr. “Speaker” it depends on just what your definition of “nowhere” is now doesn’t it. Mine would be at the bottom of the Marianas Trench and sinking!


5 posted on 11/30/2012 1:21:17 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Hojczyk

‘We’re Almost Nowhere’

Ha... think how the rest of us feel!!


6 posted on 11/30/2012 1:21:51 PM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Hojczyk

Boner calls it “Almost Nowhere” - I would say he is a couple of miles behind where they were when the “Grand Bargin” was almost reached, when about a year ago?


7 posted on 11/30/2012 1:26:03 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Hojczyk

What an amazing thing to detect a member of the middle class, whatever that is, by examining one’s taxable income. Incredible!


8 posted on 11/30/2012 1:26:17 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Hojczyk; All

” Even so, he added, he was determined to continue working with Obama. “

Yeah, and this keeps me up nights.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 1:35:08 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Boehner is merely one of many of 0bama’s RINO spintriari..


10 posted on 11/30/2012 1:37:57 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Hojczyk

Mr. Speaker: Adjourn the House and GO HOME!!!
Let it go over the cliff.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 1:39:29 PM PST by lgjhn23
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12 posted on 11/30/2012 1:44:14 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Hojczyk

Decades and decades of Grand Bargains by both sides in DC
have brought us to the brink. You vote for my pork in a bill
and I will vote for your bridge to nowhere.

The only solution these dc HACKS have to offer is more taxes
which will only delay the coming collapse. This country is so
divided that nothing will be done. They are incapable of solving
the spending issues because they all helped create it.

As a result, the only outcome left is a collapse.
I truly hate Bonehead, Cantor and McConnell.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 1:51:09 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Hojczyk

Dear John; every time you plant your face in front of a camera or answer a reporter’s questions, you will get kicked in the groin. This CNBC article makes the Republicans out to be the bad guys, and there’s your mug at the start of the story. It doesn’t matter what you say, they are going to kick you in the gonads. Hang your head and walk past every camera and reporter without saying a word. At least they won’t be able to put your face up there when they start screaming about the cruel Republicans. And how many reporters will these cash strapped networks need if they don’t interview Republicans?


14 posted on 11/30/2012 1:54:47 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hojczyk

He’ll wait until the last possible moment to cave. Every so-called stalemate plays out the same way.

Anyone who questions him will be ridiculed by the GOP media.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 2:34:39 PM PST by Cato in PA (May America reap the rotten fruit of the demon seed it's sown.)
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To: Cato in PA

Obama IS the lump of coal


16 posted on 11/30/2012 2:38:51 PM PST by silentknight
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To: Hojczyk

and the problem with this is what?

so the next Obama administration is gonna have difficulty paying off its campaign investors?


17 posted on 11/30/2012 2:40:23 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Hojczyk

Republicans need to walk out and let Obama and dems own this. How many times do the people need to say this?


18 posted on 11/30/2012 2:50:21 PM PST by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Rush nailed it today. Obama WANTS the fiscal cliff to happen. Taxes go up on everyone at first of the year, he says he tried to negotiate, he blames Republicans. Then, after the pain is sufficiently felt by the people with higher unemployment, business closures, etc, he swoops to the rescue and says: “We need to save the middle class and offer them some sort of a [lesser] tax cut.” Republicans can’t object, he gets to call himself a tax cutter. It’s all very Machiavellian, evil in fact. But everyone here has already come to expect this from Obama.


19 posted on 11/30/2012 3:17:46 PM PST by sfrepub
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To: Hojczyk
Rush rambled a bit long on this topic today, but within it there was the blueprint of what to do: piecemeal the pertinent, pressing, legislation that will benefit the real middle class, outside of the fiscal cliff bill...
20 posted on 11/30/2012 3:20:05 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: C210N

“We’re ‘almost’ nowhere. — John Boehner

Talk then about the “almost”. I am curious what “almost” means.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 3:30:54 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Hojczyk
Pelosi said she was going to introduce a bill that gives the middle class the current tax rates. The GOP could beat her to the proposal but add sequestration to the bill.
22 posted on 11/30/2012 4:01:15 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: sfrepub

I missed Rush today. (Very unusual for me, too). But did he say what he thought the answer is?


23 posted on 11/30/2012 4:12:24 PM PST by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: lgjhn23
B T T T ! ! ! ©

24 posted on 11/30/2012 4:26:01 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Hojczyk

“the White House was $1.6 trillion in tax increases”

Is that “over ten years”?


25 posted on 11/30/2012 4:35:45 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Hojczyk

Nowhere follows Boner like dirt follows Pigpen.


26 posted on 11/30/2012 5:50:53 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Hojczyk

0’Br0nc0 falls on America like a ton of bricks.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 5:51:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ctdonath2
It's all about the "out years"

Totally specious.

28 posted on 11/30/2012 5:53:04 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: blueunicorn6
This CNBC article makes the Republicans out to be the bad guys,

That is all we are going to see over the next two years - Zero's war on Republicans. AND never forget that he has the largest, and I would argue the most effective, propaganda machine on the planet.

GOP whether you are actually the reason we go over the fiscal slope or not, you are going to be blamed from now right up to elections in 2014 (assuming we still have elections by then) so you might as well accept your fate and start doing what is right for the country of America, and forget about reelections and the District of Corruption cocktail party circuit. Americans are hurting and will be hurting even more after we go over the fiscal slope so just walk away from the "NO DEAL" and go home for the Holidays.

SAY THIS TO YOURSELVES OVER AND OVER AND OVER - "I AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS FISCAL MESS." because that is all you are going to hear from the Zero media machine for the next two years no matter what course of action you take - IMHO you should be doing what is right for America (NOT ZERO) and what will keep intact whatever base you have left. This is an all out war by the RATS to drive a stake through the heart of the GOP - the RATS and Zero smell blood in the water - all Boner has to do is make one of his previous "deals" and the GOP's fate is sealed for ever and ever - it will be over for the party if he caves again.

Don't believe me? Think I am too radical? Start with ZERO wanting to cut the Congress out of approving the amount of debt the Government can run up. Allow the RATS to set their own debt ceiling (or remove it entirely) and they will go on a spending binge the likes of which we never ever saw during the FDR and Johnson regimes. And don't tell me the GOP led House has the purse strings - what happened to defunding Obamacare? Boner declares "Obamacare is now the law of the land" so therefore end of discussion. The RAT party has been dreaming of this day for over 50 years and they are now at the point where they can get whatever they want no matter there is a divided Congress - the RAT media weapon is far stronger the divided Congress and House Weeper Boner's backbone.

Myself, I gave up the cause after GWB appointee Roberts stabbed us in the back, and realized there seems to be nothing we can do to stop this march to a France-like-State under Zero and the RATS. This appears to be what the current culture in America want, this is what they voted for, so they are going to get it.
29 posted on 11/30/2012 6:02:49 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: mtnwmn

“The GOP could beat her to the proposal but add sequestration to the bill.”

Goodness, that is not what I meant:( The GOP could do away with sequestration in the bill:o)


30 posted on 11/30/2012 6:56:01 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Hojczyk

Correspondence with my Congressman indicates the Dims are hoping for sequestration to gut the military and the Repubs don’t want it to happen. I hope this isn’t indications of a coming cave.


31 posted on 12/01/2012 3:34:34 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Hojczyk
Even so, he added, he was determined to continue working with Obama.

Keep chasing that can, John & Mitch! Pay no attention to the string that Barry's tied to it!


32 posted on 12/01/2012 3:44:12 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: C210N; Hojczyk

Try this: ( sung to the tune of walkin in a winter wonderland)

Walkin in a Winter Obammyland.

Leftists sing, are you listening,
In Boehner’s brain, Reid is pi$$ing
A beautiful sight,
We’re happy tonight.
Walking in Obama’s wonderland.

Gone away is the budget,
All we can do, is try to nudge it
Obama sings a love song,
As we go along,
Walking in Obama’s wonderland.

In the meadow we can build Rice’s snowman,
Then pretend that she is Secretary State

She’ll say: Are you married?
We’ll say: No man,
But you can do the job
If thats your fate.

Later on, we’ll conspire,
As we dream by Reichstag fire
To face unafraid,
The treason we’ve made,
Walking in Obama’s wonderland.

In the meadow we can build a snowman,
And pretend that he’s Obama’s clown
We’ll have lots of fun with mister snowman,
Until the Constitution knocks Obama down.

When in debt, ain’t it thrilling,
Though your wallet gets a chilling
We’ll frolic and play,in the fascist way,
Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


33 posted on 12/01/2012 4:21:12 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Ping to an Xmas Party Bankers Song,

Walkin in a Winter Obammyland.


34 posted on 12/01/2012 4:23:06 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Hojczyk
Even so, he added, he was determined to continue working with Obama. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Big Mistake.

Never negotiate with a fascist. A fascist has no intention of honoring ANY agreement.

Boehner just doesn't get it. The collegial days of Senatry are over. Obama is out to ruin America and destroy the Constitution by derogating the authority of appropriations from Congress to the presidencey, relegating Congress to a strictly advisory role. Thats why Obama demands to control the "debt ceiling." After all he "won" the election.The three branches of government therefore must merge under Obama.

Obama wants a dictatorship, and is not worthy of the office he holds.POSHITUS.

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Walkin in a Winter Wonderland:

*************

Leftists sing, are you listening,

In Bohner’s brain, Reid is pi$$ing

A beautiful sight,

We’re happy tonight.

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


**********

Gone away is the budget,

All we can do, is try to nudge it

Obama sings a love song,

As we go along,

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


****************

In the meadow we can build Rice’s snowman,

Then pretend that she is Secretary State


*******************

She’ll say: Are you married?

We’ll say: No man,

But you can do the job

If thats your fate.


*****************

Later on, we’ll conspire,

As we dream by Reichstag fire

To face unafraid,

The treason we’ve made,

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


********************

In the meadow we can build a snowman,

And pretend that he’s Obama’s clown

We’ll have lots of fun with mister snowman,

Until the Constitution knocks Obama down.


*******************

When in debt, ain’t it thrilling,

Though your wallet gets a chilling

We’ll frolic and play,in the fascist way,

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.

***********************

35 posted on 12/03/2012 7:07:44 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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