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New York tells Con Edison to prepare in case Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant shuts down
Chicago Tribune ^ | 11/30/2012 | Scott DiSavino

Posted on 11/30/2012 12:21:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind

New York energy regulators told power companies in New York City to develop plans to keep the lights on in the Big Apple in case the giant Indian Point nuclear power plant, which supplies about a quarter of the city's electricity, is forced to shut down.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo wants the two reactors at Indian Point shut when their operating licenses expire in 2013 and 2015 in part because the nuclear plant is located in the New York metropolitan area, home to some 19 million people.

The governor has said even the most unlikely possibility of an accident is too much in the heavily populated area.

U.S. power company Entergy Corp, which owns Indian Point, says, however, the plant is safe, and the company is seeking to extend the reactors' licenses for another 20 years.

The 2,063-megawatt (MW) Indian Point plant is about 40 miles north of Manhattan along the Hudson River.

"Entergy and its employees continuously demonstrate the plants are safely operated, and is committed to safely operating this important facility for many more years to come," Entergy spokesman Jerry Nappi told Reuters Wednesday in an email.

On Tuesday, the state's energy regulator, New York Public Service Commission (NYPSC), directed New York City power company Consolidated Edison Inc to work with the New York Power Authority (NYPA) to develop a contingency plan to address the needs that would arise in the event Indian Point shuts down.

NYPA is a state-owned power generator that supplies electricity to government customers in New York City, including schools, hospitals, government buildings, subways and commuter trains.

"We will comply with the Commission's directive to work with the New York Power Authority to develop a contingency plan addressing the needs that would arise in the event of an Indian Point shutdown,"

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cuomo; indianpoint; newyork; nuclearpower; ny
Indian Point supplies over 25% of New York City, Long Island and Westchester's electrical energy. Over 2000 Megawatts of energy ( millions and millions of people rely on it ).

During the peak of summer, the reliance on Indian Point sometimes reaches 30%.

A shutdown of Indian Point, without sufficient alternatives, would threaten electric system reliability and potentially raise electric market prices.

Fukushima's accident made people nervous about nuclear energy, so they want to shut Indian Point down to avoid something similar happening in the future.

The big question is this -- WHAT DO THEY REPLACE INDIAN POINT WITH ?

1 posted on 11/30/2012 12:21:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

IOW, Cuomo is a kook.


2 posted on 11/30/2012 12:24:31 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Indian Point supplies over 25% of New York City, Long Island and Westchester’s electrical energy. Over 2000 Megawatts of energy ( millions and millions of people rely on it ).
During the peak of summer, the reliance on Indian Point sometimes reaches 30%.

A shutdown of Indian Point, without sufficient alternatives, would threaten electric system reliability and potentially raise electric market prices.

Fukushima’s accident made people nervous about nuclear energy, so they want to shut Indian Point down to avoid something similar happening in the future.

The big question is this — WHAT DO THEY REPLACE INDIAN POINT WITH ? “

NOTHING.

Pataki said years ago if the plant closes a minimum of 5 conventional plants would be needed to take up the slack. The enviros went wild so he said it stays open.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 12:27:58 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see what the big problems is. They can go back to using slide rules and abacuses in the financial districts. Climbing stairs is good for your health we are told, and think of the stimulus to the candle-making industry.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 12:29:19 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: SeekAndFind
These people are beyond hopeless.

Is there even a possibility of a 9.2 earthquake and tsunami at Indian Point? Really? Oh, and by the way, forget about natural gas too: no fracking anywhere in NY.

Get ready to freeze in the dark, New York voters, when the idiot environazi/Rat cabal that you sent to Albany and DC arbitrarily shuts down almost 30% of your electrical capacity. Elections have consequences, dopes.

5 posted on 11/30/2012 12:29:30 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh please oh please oh please oh please.


6 posted on 11/30/2012 12:30:32 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Precautionary Principle... the totalitarian dictator’s best friend.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 12:32:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Howz his gal friend gonna bake her fresh hot buns for him every morning? solar power.. hhhaaa..


8 posted on 11/30/2012 12:35:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: headstamp 2

Windmills, thousands of ‘em, and millions and billions of solar panels too. Whoopee!

If those farging idiots thought being witout power for a few days every 10 years or so is the end of the world wait until weekly rolling blackouts are the new normal.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 12:35:34 PM PST by technically right
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe they should plan on replacing Indian Point with nothing at all. If New Yorkers are unwilling to bear the risks they don’t deserve the benefits.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 12:36:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Shut down both reactors right now. I bet it would take all of week of a few thousand massive trailer mounted diesel generators parked outside every major NYC office building for them to start begging for Indian Point to be started again.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 12:36:46 PM PST by matt04
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To: headstamp 2

Meanwhile Shoreham lies gathering moss and rust..

I’d rather have a nuke power plant next door than a major airport.

growing up as a kid , we had plants in a couple spots within 50 to 75 miles of us in minniesoda.. no big deal.. and there was plenty of population closeby..

cuomo is a chump.. a wannabe big time player.. his mask if removed, let his future freeze like his constituents.


12 posted on 11/30/2012 12:40:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: SeekAndFind
I thank God that neither Cuomo nor his cronies and coatholders will ever have to worry about brownouts,blackouts,etc.Perhaps he should be talking to the folks on Staten island about what it's like to be without power.But then again,maybe not...Staten Island votes Republican so what could Andrew *or* Baraq *possibly* learn from such rubes?
13 posted on 11/30/2012 12:42:20 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is just nuts. In light of what New Yorkers are already facing, just how in the Sam Hill are they going to fund the shutdown..and the ‘alternative?’. Trying for a Federal bailout? California, Chicago, New York...these people have gone completely around the bend.

Bookmarking for further comments..


14 posted on 11/30/2012 12:43:24 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The big question is this -- WHAT DO THEY REPLACE INDIAN POINT WITH ?

The beauty of gubment by liberal fairy-tale fiat is that it's not their problem.

Private industry needs to figure out the fix and it had better be fast, cheap and free or it just proves that they want to irradiate people for profit, or something.

15 posted on 11/30/2012 12:49:34 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: NormsRevenge

The reality hurts their cause.

Nuclear accounts for about nine percent of America’s energy, according to the Energy Information Administration, and has yet to cause a single fatality here. Wind, on the other hand, provides the United States with only 0.7 percent of its energy, and has been responsible for 35 deaths in the United States alone. So if we’re trying to weigh the costs and benefits of each, it seems wind fares far worse than nuclear. Yet no one seems to be discussing plans to halt production of all new wind farms until Americans’ safety can be guaranteed.

http://www.peterheck.com/libtree/liberty_tree/view/759/nuclear_vs__wind_energy_death_tolls


16 posted on 11/30/2012 12:49:48 PM PST by fudimo
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To: SeekAndFind
WHAT DO THEY REPLACE INDIAN POINT WITH ?

Considering the extreme success we had preparing for a major storm up here, I'd say they'll replace it with widespread panic.

17 posted on 11/30/2012 12:50:29 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh the irony...

Hurricane Sandy took the lights out, and we haven’t heard the end of it yet.

And now Cuomo wants to cut his city’s energy supply by one third.

Reason 42,722,893,065,441,529 why Leftist group-think is a mental illness.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 12:50:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The simple fact is that even if NYC wanted to replace the nuke plant generation, It’s probably not possible to permit/site/build the generating facilities in two years.


19 posted on 11/30/2012 12:59:00 PM PST by Doghunter
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To: SeekAndFind

Just following in the footsteps of daddy. Mario Cuomo was governor when Shoreham was built. It was fine for all the union jobs and the taxes they made LICO pay for the plant. Once the work was done the environmental wacos said it can’t run unless they have an evacuation plan. Cuomo told all state agencies not to approve any evacuation plan so it was DOA. Then he bought the plant from LICO for one dollar.


20 posted on 11/30/2012 1:06:46 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL Where are all the green a$$holes going to get their power?


21 posted on 11/30/2012 1:09:22 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: technically right

Hey Andrew, maybe you should ease up on the Anti-Fracking mumbo jumbo on the western side of the state.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 1:11:21 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: technically right

Drinking birds!
Thousands of hyper scale drinking birds generating ‘free’ power each time they bob up/down!

With only a few minor technical problems to solve ‘free’ power day and night!


23 posted on 11/30/2012 1:16:55 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Vermont tried to shut down Vermont Yankee, but failed.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 1:22:38 PM PST by kidd
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To: bassmaner

“Get ready to freeze in the dark, New York voters, when the idiot environazi/Rat cabal that you sent to Albany and DC arbitrarily shuts down almost 30% of your electrical capacity. Elections have consequences, dopes.”

They’ll blame the rate increases on greedy corporations and Republicans. This plant is about 15 miles NE of me, never had a problem with it. There are however some hysterical types over in NY who live near it and think it’s going to blow up or something, and that it’s causing cancer.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 1:27:49 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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Don't play any games with these people that want to radiate your children and microwave your city.......you show them you're serious and shut those plants down now!!!!

New Yuckers.......you can live in the dark.

26 posted on 11/30/2012 1:33:48 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: fudimo

Your analysis is excellent. But facts make no difference to True Believers. Using its successful tool of incrementalism, the hard Left (which counts Cuomo as a member) will create a power shortage, increase prices astronomically and get away with blaming it on “Republican greed and obstructionism.” Just wait and watch.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 1:51:43 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: ScottfromNJ

The nukes in general are the safest power plants because of all the redundant safeguards. They are built for overkill. Fukishima OTOH disregarded recommended & required GE bulletins. Fukishima and Chernobyl are the exceptions because they didn’t follow protocol.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 1:55:25 PM PST by BipolarBob (Riding my stick horse yelling "Woop woop whopm Gangham style" & grinning like an idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cuomo actually has a moment of sanity. I never thought that I would see the day.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 2:13:49 PM PST by Revel
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a dangerous situation and they need to shut that nuclear power plant down immediately, not wait for two years. another storm, earthquake, freak accident, global warming and NY will be toast, literally. and cuomo will be responsible. he knew it was dangerous and he let it continue anyway.

Obama is blocking coal genrated power plants and shutting them down.

I believe that this is a winnning plan for the Democrats. Supoort them on this. Build windmills (watch the fun)


30 posted on 11/30/2012 2:16:18 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The big question is this — WHAT DO THEY REPLACE INDIAN POINT WITH ?


Well, silly, the smart liberals have some double secret alternative energy supply they’ve been waiting to spring on their globe. Algore only needs global energy taxes and a carbon trading scheme to fund his alternative energy invention.

I’m sure the socialists will fix any shortages they cause. : (


31 posted on 11/30/2012 2:17:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ScottfromNJ

Same here in CT. I have friend who live within a few miles of Millstone and doesn’t care. However some people think it will turn into a mushroom cloud any second now.

I once swam off a beach withing sight of Millstone. Strangely, no effects or three eyed fish spotted.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 9:28:03 PM PST by matt04
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Is there even a possibility of a 9.2 earthquake at Indian Point?

Yes. http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~sykes/pages/EqCatNYC-Phil.html

It will happen. Someday. It has happened in the past. The Ramapo fault is active, just had minor trembler in mid-November.

This is the situation, with a single change in Federal law, the Indian Point Plant will not gain reapproval, all that is needed is a change in one regulation regarding fault lines:

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission only considers the threat of earthquakes or terrorism during initial licensing hearings and does not revisit the issue during relicensing.
http://old.gothamgazette.com/article/iotw/20080929/200/2660

ConEd cut corners building the plant, specifically cut corners in earthquake resistance superstructures. To save a buck. Back in the design phase in 1960’s.


33 posted on 12/01/2012 3:30:06 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: NormsRevenge

>> Meanwhile Shoreham lies gathering moss and rust..

A craphole project wrought with break-n-patch construction activity.


34 posted on 12/01/2012 3:38:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: kidd
Vermont tried to shut down Vermont Yankee, but failed.

Oh, but Maine is so much smarter.

They didn't fail, and now we have among the most expensive power rates in the US.

35 posted on 12/01/2012 3:57:18 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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