Posted on 11/30/2012 10:21:57 AM PST by Kenny
I trust the Wall Street Journal. That is journalism. A guy with a url is not journalism. Too many people accept anything they read as long as it agrees with their preconceptions.
Do you believe what Michael Moore blogs? Of course not. The left thinks he writes facts. Your definition of the new media says what you already believes. Shocking.
I trust the Wall Street Journal. That is journalism. A guy with a url is not journalism. Too many people accept anything they read as long as it agrees with their preconceptions.
Do you believe what Michael Moore blogs? Of course not. The left thinks he writes facts. Your definition of the new media says what you already believes. Shocking.
>> the Wall Street Journal<<
Nobody sees it.
Americans get their news from Entertainment tonight, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher etc. Public education, the entertainment and news industries are virtually owned by the communists.
I don’t get my information from bloggers. If it gets reported here and it has a supporting document, I’ll take a look.
If something goes viral on twitter, and lots of folks are reporting on it live, that’s got some credibility. Especially if it’s bad news for the socialists AND the RATagandists fail to report it, barely cover it, or play it down.
There are professionals who measure media bias. They can audit the number of column inches, minutes of airtime on a story, or the number of stories on a given topic.
Most of the time, the “media” gets a big fat F.
Obama will redistribute Lenos massive car collection.
Socialists have a thing about accumulating big expensive cars.
So did the Nazis.
BFLR
You would be better served reading the Wall Street Journal than what some guy is typing in his basement. Just because there are idiots who get their news from entertainment TV doesn’t mean you have to. Put in some effort and you might be rewarded instead of reading the same old crapola.
You have access to a great publication. Use it.
Why are you preaching to me? I’ve known about the WSJ for decades.
Send out a some e-mails to the several hundred million voters that don’t.
Of course they are still a filter. We have no investigative free press.
The waybackmachine has nothing earlier than 2009 for that article. Show me the archive from before 2004 where that claim was made. And no, I won’t take out a subscription for that slime publication just to see an archived web page either, so you’ll have to take a screencap of the wayback page from before 2004, if one exists.
And if that article was originally published in 1999 (or whenever), then what was corrected and why? And I would appreciate seeing an actual paper clipping from 1999 with that article as it was originally posted.
Not only does that claim contradict Obama’s own claims in the literary biography (which others mentioned here and to which you were responding), but the State of Hawaii has acknowledged that there is no legal-quality proof to support that claim - which makes no sense if he was born at Kapiolani as the record in Hawaii claims.
Too little too late!
I am not doing your research for you. You clearly have the time to do it yourself.
However, you could make it worth my time. How about if I post the proof you request and you stop posting at FR. Otherwise I am just doing your bidding. It will be a bet between us. If I can’t produce it I will stop posting.
Do we have a deal?
It’s not my responsibility to do your research for you.
But your attitude and attempt to get me to stop posting reveals exactly who you are. Why would it be “worth your time” to get me to stop posting? And why should anything you post from the NYT have the ability to silence my pointing out what the State of Hawaii has confirmed through official legal documents?
I give people the benefit of the doubt; it’s even gotten me into trouble with my allies here. But that post just revealed everything about who you are. You revealed too much and blew your cover.
You were afraid to back up your assertions after I called you on it. I am not surprised. And then you cried to the principal.
I am interested in truth, not unfounded assertions.
We could change it to a 100 dollar wager, with the loser giving the hundred to FR. Any problem with that? FR could use the money and I won’t mind paying it if you are right and I am wrong.
Here is a chance to stand behind your words.
I always “stand behind my words”. I have already given you links to documentation for what I’ve claimed, and it is legal-quality evidence. Inferences are used to prove legal cases every day in this country. (Which of you Fogbowers - without using any inferences at all - can show me exactly where Onaka has ever verified that Obama was born on Aug 4, 1961?)
You, on the other hand, have demanded that I prove your claim (that the claim of a HI birth pre-dated 2004) which you refuse to provide documentation for. You Fogbowers are all alike - blowing unsubstantiated smoke out your rear ends and then trying to waste everybody else’s time on p!ssing matches. I’m not going to waste my time on you. You’ve been exposed, you’ve got nothing, and I have much more important things to be working on right now. I haven’t been posting on FR much these days because I’ve got other irons in the fire right now, but for the sake of FR I will do now what I didn’t do in the post I copied to Jim:
Jim, I beg the zot, for the first time ever. This person is wasting everybody’s time. Troll behavior, and says he’s personally invested in getting me to stop posting here. Do as you see fit, but I’m not going to waste my time on him, and I generally give people the benefit of the doubt - even to a fault, as others here can vouch for.
Sakic doesn’t know the difference between bloggers who show screencaps of Hawaii statutes and post photos and scans directly from government documents, email communications with government officials, etc.... and “opinions”.
You mentioned that if a story has documentation you’ll look at it. I’ve posted proof that the 1960-64 birth index at the HDOh contains names from legally non-valid BC’s. I’ve posted communications directly from the HDOH showing that their accounting for the certificate numbers and dates filed don’t work. I’ve posted Bennett’s actual request, the laws that govern Onaka’s response, and Onaka’s response. I’ve posted KS SOS Kris Kobach’s actual request and the response he got.
This sakic is either a troll, or so stupid that he doesn’t know the difference between primary sources and “rumors”. My guess is he’s a troll; his behavior just smells like a troll.
For instance, the literary biography comes straight from the person named. These are Obama’s claims about himself. And sakic thinks that a 2009, admittedly-altered, version of a 1999 article from the New York Times has more credibility than the literary biography that came straight from the usurper’s mouth and was allowed to stand until 2007, when it was changed as already proven by paper documents showing the earlier version.
Primary v secondary sources. This guy wants to waste your time over sources when he can’t even show us that a SECONDARY source claiming a HI birth PRIMARY source (Obama’s own claims about himself) from 2007 claiming a Kenyan birth.
Somehow my comment got truncated. He can’t show that a SECONDARY source pre-dating 2004 and claiming a HI birth even exists, but ignores that we’ve got a paper copy of a PRIMARY source (Obama’s own claims about himself) from 2007 claiming a Kenyan birth.
So nasty for someone asked if he would like to make a friendly wager that would benefit FR no matter who is right. I will depart the discussion on my own, but if you change your mind, PM me.
Jay is suddenly having second thoughts about being one of the 1%in Obama’s gun sights.....as I suspect, are several thousand other wealthy “Obama supporters” who thought he was just joking.
Is this what you are looking for? Have you seen this?
http://web.archive.org/web/19991109015159/http://www.legis.state.il.us/homepages/senate/obamab.html
I tried it twice and it said “No server is available to handle this request”both times.
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