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A Possible Republican Strategy for the Fiscal Cliff (Force Obama to blink)
American Thinker ^ | 11/30/2012 | Bruce Thompson

Posted on 11/30/2012 8:26:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

There is much debate regarding how Republicans ought to handle the fiscal cliff. They are in a showdown with President Obama as to who will blink first.

So my suggestion to them is to take a page from Obama's playbook and kick the can one more time. They should extend the status quo for one more month, to February 1, 2013. The reason behind this strategy is that President Obama is legally required to deliver a budget in January. What that would do is force him to commit his budget to paper. He would be forced to blink.

The Democratic Senate has gone for years without passing a budget. And the President's last budget was tossed aside by the Senate under Majority Leader Harry Reid by a unanimous, bipartisan vote of 0-99. Obama got through his first term by repeatedly blaming his predecessor.

Now, having been re-elected, his predecessor is himself. Unrestrained by the need to run for re-election ever again, he has a totally free hand. His modus operandi is to "lead from behind", but that won't work now. So if the Republicans extend the status quo until he has been forced to perform his presidential duties, they will force him to blink first. That will put the onus for what follows squarely upon his shoulders. All they have to do is say "Yes Sir, Mr. President, after you". They can smile and be sweetly polite.

If he acts, as he has been hinting, in campaign mode as he has done for the last four years, he will bear the legacy forevermore. Bill Clinton accepted sane Republican fiscal reform when he lost to Newt Gingrich's Contract with America. Clinton got to claim the credit anyway because that change took place at mid-term for the presidential election cycle.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: fiscalcliff; gop; obama

1 posted on 11/30/2012 8:26:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I like it..shove it right back in his face...
Blame your predessor (it's you!..you B@$t@rd :)

2 posted on 11/30/2012 8:30:55 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: SeekAndFind
President Obama is legally required to deliver a budget in January. What that would do is force him to commit his budget to paper.

Seriously??

3 posted on 11/30/2012 8:32:18 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fraudulently elected person who occupies the White House has a history of blaming everybody else and does nothing positive. In that, he is a product of his generation - NEVER accept responsibility.

And to think he will not run again, in violation of the Constitution, is ludicrous. He has almost absolute power; he will not surrender it peacefully or willingly.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 8:38:31 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: SeekAndFind
We have two choices now. Go over the "cliff" or don't.

If we avoid the cliff, it's clear that Obama will only agree to do so with tax hikes and fake promises for future spending cuts that will never happen. We saw this a year ago; same old same old, see you again at the next cliff when the debt ceiling is inevitably reached.

If we go over, we get massive tax hikes and massive spending cuts. Obama will likely try to cover his rear by trimming the tax hikes with a middle class cut. The rest would stand.

Honestly, it looks to me like the choice is tax hikes with fake spending cuts or tax hikes with actual spending cuts. I'm starting to think the cliff is the better choice for the long term. Lots of short term pain though.

5 posted on 11/30/2012 8:39:58 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: NTHockey

Just wait . . . they’ll start prepping and priming Michelle to run in 2016. 8 More Years. Woman. And Black. And O’s Wife. IF being First Lady qualified Hillary in the eyes of voters, what’s to stop them from running Moochelle?


6 posted on 11/30/2012 8:43:15 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What that would do is force him to commit his budget to paper.

He’s the supposed black president. He doesn’t have to anything he doesn’t want to do AND he gives out free obamaphones!


7 posted on 11/30/2012 8:44:55 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: SeekAndFind
A Possible Republican Strategy for the Fiscal Cliff

Get Boehner Replaced!! Otherwise, the GOPe will just cave once again.
8 posted on 11/30/2012 8:45:02 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: SeekAndFind
This ain't rocket science here. The ONLY item that the Dems care about here is the raising of the debt ceiling. The rest of the rhetoric is purely for show. If there is one issue that the Republicans must hold fast to, it is this:

DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT CEILING!

Let Obama have anything else he wants, only take away his ability to spend money he does not have.

9 posted on 11/30/2012 8:45:12 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: SeekAndFind

I like the Thelma and Loise approach to the “financial cliff”

Full speed ahead!


10 posted on 11/30/2012 8:47:09 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
Otherwise, the GOPe will just cave once again.

You mean the GOP Spelunkers?

11 posted on 11/30/2012 8:48:03 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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12 posted on 11/30/2012 8:48:41 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“President Obama is legally required to deliver a budget in January.”

He has never submitted one yet, so why would we expect a legal requirement to matter to him? He thinks that, to paraphrase Judge Dredd, he IS the law.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 8:55:48 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind; Thad Lost; jdsteel; GVnana; Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ..
RE :”So my suggestion to them is to take a page from Obama’s playbook and kick the can one more time. They should extend the status quo for one more month, to February 1, 2013. The reason behind this strategy is that President Obama is legally required to deliver a budget in January. What that would do is force him to commit his budget to paper. He would be forced to blink.
....
Unrestrained by the need to run for re-election ever again, he has a totally free hand. His modus operandi is to “lead from behind”, but that won't work now. So if the Republicans extend the status quo until he has been forced to perform his presidential duties, they will force him to blink first. That will put the onus for what follows squarely upon his shoulders. All they have to do is say “Yes Sir, Mr. President, after you”. They can smile and be sweetly polite.
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If he acts, as he has been hinting, in campaign mode as he has done for the last four years, he will bear the legacy forevermore”

I dont even understand what he is suggesting “Kick the can down the road” ???
What does that mean?? Give in to that set of demands he made yesterday for one month? Or just the tax cut extension?
The writer should be specific because rounding up votes right now will be tough to do..

I think his point is that the Reid Senate will reject Os budget getting the House off the hook. Interesting idea.

14 posted on 11/30/2012 8:56:03 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: Qwackertoo

“what’s to stop them from running Moochelle?”

Billary


15 posted on 11/30/2012 9:00:43 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: SeekAndFind

The author is suggesting a way to win the political game, and it’s worth considering.

It doesn’t solve the bigger problem of overspending though. I hate it that the political theater has become a bigger concern than the future of the country.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 9:12:35 AM PST by kidd
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To: sickoflibs; Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3

” I think his point is that the Reid Senate will reject Os budget getting the House off the hook. Interesting idea. “

Sure as heck is.


17 posted on 11/30/2012 9:15:20 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Boogieman
He has never submitted one yet, so why would we expect a legal requirement to matter to him? He thinks that, to paraphrase Judge Dredd, he IS the law.

That's not actually true. He has submitted budgets - the last one got voted down by 99 to 0 in the senate.

18 posted on 11/30/2012 9:16:20 AM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

"Honestly, it looks to me like the choice is tax hikes with fake spending cuts or tax hikes with actual spending cuts."

The Dems entire future is premised upon an out-of-control entitlement state where they get to dole out the goodies, and the Repubs are the meanies who want to take it away from you. We talk about the future of the country decades down the road, the country we will leave for our kids and grandkids, the value of hard work, etc... the Dems provide instant gratification. Instant gratification is winning big time.

Republicans will increasingly lose national elections and races in swing states I fear, no matter how enticing the candidate, as long as this exists. Anything that punctures this entitlement state is a desirable thing.

19 posted on 11/30/2012 9:20:25 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“O” Can’t make his state of the union speech until he is able to look good!

Being re elected ain’t enough!..since he has NO record of achievement.

I say, the economy is screwed no matter what Conservatives demand... so LET IT BLEED!


20 posted on 11/30/2012 9:21:34 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SeekAndFind

agree to his tax hikes and nothing else, no more bailouts and then we can say we went with what obama wanted, we tried to work but they gave us nothing, they have not brought the debt down and now they have the top 2@ paying more and it;s not enough so now they want those who pay less to pay more.

Oh and will this pathetic cowardly GOP call out this media, the corrupt bastards have led for years, given us a load of crap Dems, they have twisted the truth.
Call them out, name names, make AD’s showing their bias and call them out on their own networks.

enough is enough and if folks on here and other sites and the GOP is not going to go after the media then kiss 2016 good bye


21 posted on 11/30/2012 9:44:15 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NTHockey

“And to think he will not run again, in violation of the Constitution, is ludicrous. He has almost absolute power; he will not surrender it peacefully or willingly.”

No, I’m sorry, but yours is the ludicrous assertion. He doesn’t have anything close to absolute power, even though he might think he does. If he really did, we wouldn’t be commenting on this article, because it wouldn’t exist. He’d already have done whatever he wanted, because he wouldn’t need to screw around with Congress or worry about public fallout.

Also, he has no need to try and make an end run around the Constitution, when he could just put Michelle Obama up in 2016 and all the lemmings would rush to vote for her.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 10:06:32 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Sparticus

Well, then it would seem, even if he submits one, he probably wouldn’t care if it had a snowball’s chance in hell of passing. He could scribble something on a coctail napkin, wipe his nose with it, and toss it to Harry Reid to satisfy the legalities. What’s it matter to him? He’ll never take any blame for anything as long as the media has his back.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 10:10:30 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Qbert
the Dems provide instant gratification. Instant gratification is winning big time.

Sad part is you don't get it! The Ill-Informed Voter does not ever understand that they are still getting SCAMMED!
24 posted on 11/30/2012 10:11:30 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama and his fellow Communists in the Congress and Media will drive this country off the cliff just as surely as the unions bankrupted the Hostess company. They are all of the same mentality. If they have to utterly destroy this country to impose Communism, so be it, they’ll do it.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 10:11:36 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Qbert

And I didn’t mean “you” as in you. I meant “you” as in the idiots who keep voting to get back at “The Evil Rich”. The Middle Class is nothing more than the cash cow that creates a nice buffer between the Nobles and the Peasants.


26 posted on 11/30/2012 10:13:54 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: BlatherNaut

Primary Fight? I wouldn’t put it past the O’s. I prefer neither candidate. haah


27 posted on 11/30/2012 10:16:21 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Boogieman
If he really did, we wouldn’t be commenting on this article, because it wouldn’t exist. He’d already have done whatever he wanted, because he wouldn’t need to screw around with Congress or worry about public fallout.

Well, he is trying for it. Geitner's proposal is asking for NO Congressional approval for future debt ceiling increases.
28 posted on 11/30/2012 10:17:19 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Boogieman

Let’s revisit this in 2016 and see who’s assertion is ludicrous.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 10:23:40 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: SeekAndFind

Force him to commit his budget to paper.He will never list spending cuts because all he knows is spending stimulus,bail outs.....................


30 posted on 11/30/2012 10:35:26 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind
So if he drives us over the fiscal cliff, like he was Thelma and Louise's BFF, he will take himself and his Democratic enablers with him.

I disagree. The GOP will take the blame regardless. The American electorate is stupid. It's something we have to acknowledge and come to terms with.
31 posted on 11/30/2012 10:56:31 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: NTHockey

Yes, let’s.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 11:24:04 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: pepsi_junkie

Some of that short-term pain will be felt by those who, under the Bush tax cuts, paid no taxes but will be forced to if they are allowed to expire.

And they put this guy back into office.

Sometimes people have to learn the hard way. Share the suffering.


33 posted on 11/30/2012 12:09:20 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: SeekAndFind

I like it. It will be hard for Obama II to blame Obama I.

It could be done, but you’d need mirrors, a fog machine and a complicit media.


34 posted on 11/30/2012 12:28:35 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

And we have another writer who believes that the Democrat leaders think like him. He may care about a realistic budget, but the Democrats? Please. Obama will just pull out the old smoke and mirrors. The leaders of the Democrat party are grifters.....con men....pickpockets. We have got to stop thinking that they care even a little bit about this country or our people. They are out to enrich themselves. They pretend to be Democrats to get elected so they can enrich themselves. The real crooks go for the big money. And the biggest money is our federal treasury.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 12:36:32 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Qbert
the Dems provide instant gratification. Instant gratification is winning big time.

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

36 posted on 11/30/2012 5:13:03 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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