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Top Five Reasons Republicans Should Take Us Over the Fiscal Cliff ^ | 11/29/2012 | John Nolte

Posted on 11/30/2012 12:50:56 AM PST by GVnana

As the clock ticks and we watch the various players move their pieces into place, it's becoming increasingly obvious that Republicans are in a no-win situation. They’re ether going to have to cave and agree to a tax increase without meaningful spending cuts or take the blame for going over the fiscal cliff. Here are five reasons why going over the cliff is by far the best option.

1. It's a Trap!

Though House Speaker John Boehner foolishly helped to manufacture this trap by making tax increases the primary issue in the fiscal cliff negotiations, there's still time to extricate himself and his party.

Obama and the media could not care less about the economy or the deficit or the middle class. What they want is a rerun of 1992 in 2014.

There was all kinds of media praise and back-slapping from Democrats after George H. W. Bush agreed to break his "read my lips" tax pledge in exchange for spending cuts. The result of that broken promise, though, was that he looked weak, like a dupe, and faced a bruising primary challenge for reelection in '92. And during this campaign, the same media that had baited Bush into breaking his most memorable campaign promise, turned on him. We all know how that ended.

If House Republicans abandon the cornerstone of their party and agree to Obama's tax increases, they are almost certain to lose the support of much of their base. The fallout would likely be worse than 1992.

After all, if conservatives can't count on the GOP to hold the line on taxes, what good are they?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; 2012; cliff; debt; economy; fiscalcliff; spending
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To: Lancey Howard

No Democrat wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

As then Spkr. Rep. Nancy Pelosi once said: “We have to pass Obama’care’ to see what is in it.”

And now Benghazi-Coward Obama’s Democrats are saying: ‘We have to go over Obama’s Fiscal Cliff to see how far we fall financially.’

21 posted on 11/30/2012 6:00:54 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: gotribe
Let the massive spending cuts and tax hikes hit. Tired of this charade.

Defense needs to tighten its belt, too. Bring on the cliff!

22 posted on 11/30/2012 6:12:46 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: GVnana
What they want is a rerun of 1992 in 2014

I agree. They will also successfully blame the GOP if we go over the "cliff". The media, as much as we hate it, works.

The only way to preserve principal and allow Obama to own the havoc about to come is to agree to abstain.

Tell your constituents that sadly the best remaining way to defeat socialism and a complicit media is to allow the country to see it full-force. Ask them to unite and help each other through the tough times that are yet to come.

In my opinion, we went over the cliff already when more people voted themselves money and perks than those that did not.
23 posted on 11/30/2012 6:38:19 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: GVnana
5. A Tax-Hike Without Meaningful Spending Cuts Is Meaningless
Every year we rack up over a trillion dollars in unsustainable debt, and it's just a fact that even if Obama got everything he wanted with respect to this income tax increase, it adds up to a drop in the bucket -- it's purely symbolic.

This is a point that needs to be pounded into the sheeple - TAX INCREASES WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. Spending will have to be cut, significantly and NOW.

Someone needs to ask Obama why he's stumping for a solution (tax increases) that everyone knows won't work. Could it be he really doesn't want to fix anything, he just wants an excuse to raise taxes?

None of what I've said is new, or secret. Most every conservative knows this already. Obama and the Dems know too. So why is no one saying it?

24 posted on 11/30/2012 6:50:07 AM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Kentfromohio
Newt should stop whining and suggest the Republicans being in Mitt to help broker

I'm not sure if you are a Troll, or just very subtle in your sarcasm. I went to look at your other posts and see: This account has been banned or suspended. so I know what conclusion the mods came to.

It you aren't a Troll, and get unbanned, try adding /s to such comments.

25 posted on 11/30/2012 7:07:45 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: GVnana

The title of this article is part of the problem with GOP messaging. Only Barack Obama is going to take us over the cliff. And if it happens they should call him out on it, and not hestitate to go to the microphones and call him foolish and cruelly anti-jobs and maybe go ahead and call him a jackass. Say it. The Dems demonize us all day long with never an apology, it’s long past time to push back. Aggressively.

26 posted on 11/30/2012 7:22:33 AM PST by cookcounty ("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
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To: Pilsner

“..not sure if you are a Troll...”

I thought that post was perfect sarcasm until I saw no sarcasm tag... could that post have been meant for real?? We are living inside the Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole.
I am not giving up hope because I am Christian, however am coming close.

Republicans MUST sit back, abstain and let the RATS go over the cliff. There is no other way. Will they do it? Where is our leadership? This is why I wanted Newt to get the nomination...

Anyway, good catch.

27 posted on 11/30/2012 8:25:19 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Christie at the beach
Those people up there have got our government so messed up it will take someone strong as steel to fix it. Those people up there, won’t be able to. They all should be thrown out today to the curb.

That can't be repeated often enough. I'm ready to fire the whole government, lock, stock and barrel, from Obama down to the mailman. This is the most incompetent, criminal collection of misfits and traitors, who've ever held office.

28 posted on 11/30/2012 8:43:20 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kentfromohio
Romney would be able to work bi-partisan with the Democrats. That’s what he did in Massachussets. He would definitely get a deal with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Newt should stop whining and suggest the Republicans being in Mitt to help broker a deal fast, on the Fiscal Cliff, like he did when he got RomneyCare. Mitt is a businessman. Not a nut. He could get this deal done fast.

RINO much? That screed couldn't have been better written by any run-of-the-mill liberal Democrat.

Romney isn't a principled conservative. Any deal he'd broker with the Democrats would favor enlarging government and federal spending, and would do little to address the root causes of our fiscal dilemma.

When he had a chance to prove his mettle in Massachusetts, he caved in to the Democrats. Every stinking time.

The man is a gutless politician, just like the rest of the vultures on Capitol Hill. You bet he'd get a 'deal' done with them, but it wouldn't move us a single inch back from the fiscal cliff.

29 posted on 11/30/2012 8:54:03 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sickoflibs

” 1) Pass the partial extension of the tax cuts through the House to disarm Obama and Dems of that club, then get on TV and make sure voters know you are not for raising taxes on the middle class.
Then you can walk away from Obama’s/Geitners list of outragous demands.

2) And create a video commercial of all the Dems who have been lining up calling to go over the cliff to use as a club to beat Dems with next January when the heat really goes up.

Then go over the cliff and make Dems and O own it, unlike the other standoffs”

This would work.

30 posted on 11/30/2012 8:57:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: GVnana

Any way you slice it we’re dead.

Let’s die on principle.

31 posted on 11/30/2012 8:59:01 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Impy; NFHale; ...
RE :”This would work.”

Thanks, I am long since tired of Rs screwing up these fights.
If I was a Dem now it would be laughs and parties every day for me, they never had things so good.

If this R party was in charge of D-day then they would of broadcasted their specific beach landing positions to the troops uncoded on AM radio, in England, so the Krauts could listen and plan the slaughter. Commander Klink and Sgt Schultz would be in charge of the landing too.

Calling them cowards wouldnt help much when the Germans rolled in the tanks and bombs and killed them before they even reached shore because of sheer stupidity.

How's this analogy GOPsterinMA ?? :)

32 posted on 11/30/2012 9:12:04 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: sickoflibs; All

I, ...I, ...I See Stars, floating in the sky.

33 posted on 11/30/2012 9:18:43 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: Christie at the beach

the 1996 battle killed Gingrich

34 posted on 11/30/2012 11:50:09 AM PST by Homer1
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To: Homer1

I think what hurt Newt, the most was the leftist media going after him for exposing Jim Wright. Remember the charges of that dang history lesson course and his book. It went on and on. I think he just was pressured by his fellow colleagues to leave since they would be punished at the polls. They were cowardly, not to defend him and began this new cross over to work with these leftists dems. It has hurt us ever since. Now, we see them not only as leftists, but many up there on that side, are radicals. Imo.

35 posted on 11/30/2012 12:18:59 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Lancey Howard
GOP really is the Stupid Party. They have a great precedent in 1994: Gingrich pledged to cut taxes and balance the budget. The media whores literally guffawed and ridiculed him on the air for months. Then the GOP took Congress and it all happened, just like Gingrich said it would.

Boehner should quit the circle-jerking, pass a budget that deals with the debt and spending issues. let the 'rats do what they will. If it goes down, then so be it. I bet if they were ever challenged by someone who meant it, they'd have to compromise, for once.

I know. I'm dreaming. But it wouldn't be hard if we had men in Washington.

36 posted on 11/30/2012 4:21:13 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
I know. I'm dreaming. But it wouldn't be hard if we had men in Washington.

But we don't. At least we don't have enough. What we have is mostly a pack of pandering cowards. (Look at Saxby Chambliss as a prime example.) If the Republicans cave to the rats I look forward to primarying their asses out of there. And I am long done voting for "the lesser of two evils. Look where that got us.

37 posted on 11/30/2012 5:42:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Kentfromohio

Kent, You voted for Obama and need to quit FR right now!

You have no clue what the F*** you’re talking about!

38 posted on 11/30/2012 5:47:17 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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