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Boehner - Filibuster rule change bills 'dead on arrival'
Washington Times ^ | 11-29

Posted on 11/29/2012 9:03:06 PM PST by Arthurio

House Speaker John Boehner, Ohio Republican, made it clear that any bill that came to the House from the upper chamber as a result of Senate Democrats changing the rules on the filibuster would be "dead on arrival." In a statement released from Speaker Boehner's office, the Ohio GOP'er remarked:

“Senate Democrats’ attempt to break Senate rules in order to change Senate rules is clearly designed to marginalize Senate Republicans and their constituents while greasing the skids for controversial partisan measures. I question the wisdom of this maneuver, especially at a time when cooperation on Capitol Hill is critical, and fully support Leader McConnell’s efforts to protect minority rights, which are an essential part of our constitutional tradition. Any bill that reaches a Republican-led House based on Senate Democrats’ heavy-handed power play would be dead on arrival.”

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To: justlurking

Correct, but the side that can consistently get 51%+ of their agenda passed wins, again and again.

Speaking of the failed history of revolutions: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_EGYPT_CONSTITUTION_GLANCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-29-20-23-22


41 posted on 11/30/2012 12:30:44 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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The Place for Conservatives

Thank you all very much!!
Woo hoo!! And we’re now over 98%!! Less than $1.7k to go!! We can do this.
Let's put this baby to bed!!

42 posted on 11/30/2012 12:34:00 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: William Tell

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Any bill passed via the filibuster rule change will be DOA in the House.


43 posted on 11/30/2012 12:35:54 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: MasterGunner01; entropy12

This crap is getting old. Boehner has been a bonehead, but we need to support him when he says the right thing. People here are more interested in being negative than they are in addressing the real problems. The real problems being the WH, Reid, et al.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 12:39:17 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: 1010RD

Because women are emotional not logical.


45 posted on 11/30/2012 12:40:57 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: justlurking

It has nothing to do with abortion. Ever since women have been given the right to vote, they have looked towards govt as a provider in one way or another.

We had 20 years of pro-life presidents (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II) and not one of them denied a woman to an abortion.


46 posted on 11/30/2012 12:44:17 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: justlurking

“Until the Republicans drop their obsession with abortion, they will lose the vote among women.”

After hearing from so many here that they refused to vote for Romney BECAUSE he supported abortion, I don’t think that will happen.

It’s pretty much what separates us from the leftist freaks.


47 posted on 11/30/2012 12:52:14 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

If married white women were the only ones allowed to vote in the last election, Romney would have kicked Obama ass.


48 posted on 11/30/2012 12:57:38 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Mat_Helm
Would you stop criticizing the leadership we have remaining, grow your own pair of balls,support the man's actions with positive comments, and show some faith that good will eventually triumph over this evil mess. Get over the fact that half the people in this country are idiots to ever vote for Obama who is a traitor to the nation. Support the speaker in his fight against the Senate democrats in any way possible and encourage him to stand firm and hold the line. Ignore the media and never give up the fight for the nation and freedom.

Support the man's actions? What actions? Talk is cheap, and Boehner talks a great talk; it's in the follow-through where he fails. I heard lots of great talk in the debt limit negotiations. All that great talk got us nowhere. That's why you see all this negativity and cynicism on FR.

I'll get excited when I actually see some results.

49 posted on 11/30/2012 1:06:17 PM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: Perdogg
We had 20 years of pro-life presidents (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II) and not one of them denied a woman to an abortion.

That's correct. But, that hasn't stopped the left from demagoging every Republican on the threat that they might try. And, it is a factor in every US Senate election, due to their role in Supreme Court confirmations.

All you have to see is what happens when a Republican makes a comment like Akin did. It becomes national news. The state-run media turns it into an issue for every Republican candidate, who is put on the defensive. You aren't going to change that.

Look, I told the original poster that he wouldn't like it. I was wrong about him, but I was right about you.

Until the Republican party accepts the issue as settled and moves on, or forges a compromise with Democrats and finds a middle ground, they will continue to lose national elections -- because it will be resurrected every election as a "war on women" meme.

Of course, there aren't Democrats that will be willing to compromise, either. They have their own activists that would never let them.

My personal opinion about abortion is probably very close to yours. But, I consider economic issues to be far more important, and any chance the Republicans have to win on those issues are negated by their intransigence on abortion (and a couple of other issues).

Without a strong economy, we will go the way of Greece, and France, and the UK: stagnation, and eventually failure. If that occurs, abortion issues will be the least of our worries.

50 posted on 11/30/2012 1:18:34 PM PST by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Perdogg
If married white women were the only ones allowed to vote in the last election, Romney would have kicked Obama ass.

Since married white women are a minority in the population of women, that's not a very good strategy.

51 posted on 11/30/2012 1:26:54 PM PST by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Mat_Helm

Dittos I can’t stand boehner but I also see no value it kicking him when he say or does something right. Carrot and stick rather than 24x7 cattle prod.

Ok, Boehner here ya go - chomp down on this here carrot. Good wabbit. I for one do appreciate it when you say something right even if it does occur right before a cave when you sell us out to the dems (oops broke my own rule). :-)


52 posted on 11/30/2012 1:43:23 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Mat_Helm
Would you stop criticizing the leadership we have remaining, grow your own pair of balls

Agree completely.

We have thousands of keyboard "heroes" here on FR but how many put themselves up to be exposed to ridicule like Boehner does on a daily basis.

It amazes me how often an anti-Obama thread is posted and posters end up bashing Boehner and/or the GOP.

The GOP has been holding the line lately. And Boehner did NOT raise taxes last year although under considerable pressure to do so.

I'd rather have Boehner leading than the snarky posters on FR, that's for sure!

53 posted on 11/30/2012 1:58:35 PM PST by what's up
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To: Mat_Helm

Bravo!

But Boehner’s threat was entirely necessary and is a bold action to save the country.

By making this statement, he has drawn a line in the sand that will definitely discourage some democrat senators that are on the fence from support Reid.

The Freepers that are crowing “so-and-so is going to cave, so I’ll criticize him before he actually does” is pure self-aggrandizing.


54 posted on 11/30/2012 2:13:44 PM PST by kidd
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To: justlurking
My personal opinion about abortion is probably very close to yours. But, I consider economic issues to be far more important, and any chance the Republicans have to win on those issues are negated by their intransigence on abortion (and a couple of other issues).

I'm going to have to disagree, rather flatly. It's one thing to say "let's save the fiscal situation"... but if we give the "sad tip of the hat" to child-murder (for the sake of "fiscal expediency"), then what are we "saving the fiscal situation" FOR? Trade babies for cell-phones and cable? We need to remember that money is here as a mere object to serve US, not the other way around. I really don't want to be in a world where everything is "fiscally solvent" at the cost of destroying every possible reason for a morally upright person to live.

Seriously: for anyone who claims to believe in God, this sort of idea is lunacy; hell and eternity are forever, and money is not. If we make money a god (i.e. are willing to sacrifice anything and everything in order to protect it), then we deserve all the slavery and agony that "god" dishes out against us.
55 posted on 11/30/2012 2:32:56 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Perdogg

For me it’s a marketing issue. If a candidates audience spoke Esperanto and you communicated with them in Farsi you wouldn’t blame the audience for not getting your message. If you presented to the blind or the deaf you’d modify your presentation to fit their ability to receive the message.

We can win women, particularly white women, but also minorities with the right messenger and message. We have to speak to them in a “language” they understand. Romney failed to do that.


56 posted on 11/30/2012 3:05:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Perdogg

We will have to learn or we’ll even lose Texas:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/11/lone-star-swingin/


57 posted on 11/30/2012 3:21:01 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SpaceBar

550 million years ago??? I will have to put you in touch with Franklin Graham


58 posted on 11/30/2012 3:30:46 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Perdogg
Oh, yes, I agree we should be supporting of Bonehead Boehner . . . right up to the part where he sells us out and caves to the Donkeys.

Here, John, a box of Kleenex for you.

Explain to me what Boehner has done as Speaker that demonstrates his courage, conviction, and spine against the Donkeys? He sets us up, we get our hopes up, and he folds like a house of cards. At least he's consistent: he's a wuss.

59 posted on 11/30/2012 4:49:34 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Arthurio.
"Senate Democrats’ attempt to break Senate rules in order to change Senate rules is clearly designed to marginalize Senate Republicans and their constituents while greasing the skids for controversial partisan measures. I question the wisdom of this maneuver, especially at a time when cooperation on Capitol Hill is critical, and fully support Leader McConnell’s efforts to protect minority rights, which are an essential part of our constitutional tradition. Any bill that reaches a Republican-led House based on Senate Democrats’ heavy-handed power play would be dead on arrival."

60 posted on 11/30/2012 5:10:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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