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MICHIGAN JOINS WITH MANY OTHER STATES, WILL NOT SET UP A STATE-RUN HEALTH EXCHANGE
Rep. James "Jase" Bolger ^ | 11/29/2012

Posted on 11/29/2012 4:07:03 PM PST by taildragger

Edited on 11/29/2012 4:19:57 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

LANSING – Speaker of the House Jase Bolger, R-Marshall, issued the following statement regarding this morning’s Health Policy Committee vote on a state-run health exchange:

“It was my hope the committee would find that a state-run exchange afforded us more control over the unacceptable over-reach by the federal government regarding the health care of Michigan citizens. After due diligence, however, it is clear that there were too many unanswered questions for the committee to feel comfortable with a state-run exchange and we will not have one in Michigan. I applaud Committee Chair Gail Haines for her leadership and the large amount of testimony and discussion she welcomed on this issue. I know her focus never wavered from what is best for Michigan’s citizens.

“The committee apparently was not able to get the answers to key questions or receive assurances about major concerns regarding costs for Michigan taxpayers, the ability to adopt a model the federal government wouldn’t ultimately control or the ability to protect religious freedom for Michigan citizens. Because the committee could not be assured that a state exchange was the best way to protect Michigan’s citizens, it is understandable why they did not approve the bill.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bammycares; exchange; exchanges; michigan; obamacare
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1 posted on 11/29/2012 4:07:12 PM PST by taildragger
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To: taildragger; cripplecreek

Bttt CC are you our their?


2 posted on 11/29/2012 4:12:17 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: taildragger
Looks like Arizona, too: Good News for a Change: Two More States Move Against ObamaCare (Arizona & Michigan)
3 posted on 11/29/2012 4:15:21 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: taildragger

WOOOHOOO! HOORAY Dave Janda and all activists involved in the defeat of the “exchanges”.

Thanks for posting, taildragger! BTTT!


4 posted on 11/29/2012 4:15:27 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
My senator (Shirkey) was a no vote all along. Bolger is a sleaze who ranks up there with Roger Kahn.

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5 posted on 11/29/2012 4:16:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: taildragger

Yet Michigan voted for Hussein..


6 posted on 11/29/2012 4:17:29 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: cripplecreek

CC you da man thanks bud...


7 posted on 11/29/2012 4:18:06 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: BlessedBeGod
And Oklahoma

Oklahoma Refuses to Set Up Obamacare Exchange

Here's what Gov. Mary Fallin had to say:

"It does not benefit Oklahoma taxpayers to actively support and fund a new government program that will ultimately be under the control of the federal government, that is opposed by a clear majority of Oklahomans, and that will further the implementation of a law that threatens to erode both the quality of American health care and the fiscal stability of the nation,” Fallin said.

8 posted on 11/29/2012 4:20:11 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: PGalt
WOOOHOOO! HOORAY Dave Janda and all activists involved in the defeat of the “exchanges”. Thanks for posting, taildragger! BTTT!

Thank Janda, and thank 1600am WAAM for letting him have a radio show!

Thayrone Rocks too!!!

9 posted on 11/29/2012 4:21:11 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: taildragger

I’ve been thinking about a once weekly Michigan legislative ping. Not nearly enough light is shined on the doings in Lansing unless its something big. Besides, I think the state legislatures are our route to returning conservative power to DC.


10 posted on 11/29/2012 4:26:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cardinal4

Yeah, like three counties voted for him. 98% of the land is against the rats and we did vote down a slew of union thug constitutional proposals. And we hired Rick Snyder - a miracle in itself.


11 posted on 11/29/2012 4:34:45 PM PST by epluribus_2
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To: taildragger

I just may have to consider moving back.


12 posted on 11/29/2012 4:35:29 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Good News for a Change: Two More States Move Against ObamaCare (Arizona & Michigan)

I know it's the title of another article, but I don't see the decision to reject a state exchange as a "move against ObamaCare".

Under ObamaCare, if I understand correctly, a state can set up a state exchange, step aside and let the fed set up a fed exchange, or have some kind of combination.

States are choosing door number 2, a fed exchange. They are doing it because everyone knows that the cost will be exorbitant and the states will go broke trying to fund it. The only reason to go the state exchange route would be to run it with different rules, but the fed has taken that option away. Every state exchange must follow the most minute of federal rules. So, the states are reasoning "why get stuck with the bill when we'll have exactly zero say in how it's run."

So, if you can't play unless it's the Fed's way, then let the Fed pay.

That is an absolutely reasonable position, and I expect democratic governor/legislature led states to also follow suit. California would be insane, given their current bankrupt condition, to accept the expenses of a state run exchange.

When Cali opts for a fed exchange, then ObamaCare is going to be in serious hurt for cash.

That is when Obama will propose a new tax structure: a 2-tiered flat tax + a VAT. (He'll have 2 tiers because he sees his credibility riding on "the rich" paying a higher rate.)

13 posted on 11/29/2012 4:37:31 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Isn’t Fallin a Democrat?


14 posted on 11/29/2012 4:39:17 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Guess not. Just looked it up. Fallin is a Republican.


15 posted on 11/29/2012 4:40:34 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: taildragger

How much of an exchange does Michigan need when just leaving the elderly out on the ice flows will keep them in federal compliance?


16 posted on 11/29/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: PGalt

I guess that the fed govt erred in thinking that most of the 57 states would set up their own exchange.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 4:49:07 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fallin is a Republican, married a Democrat a few years back.


18 posted on 11/29/2012 4:55:56 PM PST by annieokie
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how many states does that make?


19 posted on 11/29/2012 4:56:20 PM PST by Kolath
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fallin’s a Republican.


20 posted on 11/29/2012 4:59:08 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: epluribus_2

Yeah, I know. I’m just very frustrated. Sorry I dissed the 98%..


21 posted on 11/29/2012 5:01:26 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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Let's Put This Baby To Bed!! Less than $2.7k to go!!

The Place for Conservatives
270 FReepers with $10 or 27 FReepers with a $100 and we are over the top. How about it FReepers. Any takers?


22 posted on 11/29/2012 5:04:27 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

What’s the count up to now of states rejecting the exchanges?


23 posted on 11/29/2012 5:06:44 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: taildragger

How many have actually said they would begin implementing the socialist nightmare ?


24 posted on 11/29/2012 5:35:57 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: cripplecreek

GOOD IDEA...any work we can continue to do as the groundgame will serves us well!


25 posted on 11/29/2012 6:14:23 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: cardinal4

No, Detroit and Flint voted for Obama.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 6:17:02 PM PST by technically right
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Here is the most recent report. Most actually look pretty good or just plain pointless.

Senate Bill 1276, Restrict setting aside state land for “biological diversity”: Passed 26 to 11 in the Senate To prohibit the Department of Natural Resources from designating an area of land specifically for the purpose of achieving “biological diversity.”

Senate Bill 1238, Revise state land acquisition procedures: Passed 26 to 11 in the Senate To revise the procedures and criteria for the acquisition by the state of property paid for with Natural Resources Trust Fund money. Among other things, the bill would impose term limits on members of the NRTC board, require more transparency in its property selection process, and ban sales if the seller was harassed, intimidated, or coerced by the Department of Natural Resources, a local government, or a "qualified" conservation organization.

Senate Bill 1051, Ban school board voting with conflict of interest: Passed 31 to 6 in the Senate To prohibit school board members from voting on union and other contracts if a family member has an interest in a contract or works for the school district, including a spouse, child, parent, sibling, nephew or niece, etc. A board member having a child in a district school would not trigger this restriction.

Senate Bill 1051, Young amendment to Senate Bill 1051: Failed 17 to 20 in the Senate To extend the school board conflict of interest restrictions proposed by Senate Bill 1051 (above) to include emergency financial managers appointed by the state to manage fiscally failed school districts.

Senate Bill 1132, Revise adult adoption detail: Passed 37 to 0 in the Senate To allow an individual married person to adopt an adult without the spouse also petitioning for this, or if there is an objection, then with a court's permission. This might be done for purposes of inheritance. The bill makes an exception to the current requirement that both spouses must petition for this.

Senate Bill 1335, Increase threshold to impose new government workplace safety rules: Passed 25 to 12 in the Senate To require the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs to not just assert that there is a “clear and convincing need” to impose on employers a new occupational health and safety regulation that exceeds federal standards, but to actually provide a statement of the specific facts used to support the assertion, and show the rule was requested by a broad consensus of employers and employees in an affected industry.

House Bill 5804, Establish statewide indigent criminal defense standards: Passed 71 to 36 in the House To create a state commission to establish statewide standards and accountability measures for court-appointed attorneys who represent indigent criminal defendants, and a new government office to implement and enforce these statewide. Local governments would be responsible for funding this at current levels (“maintenance of effort”), with the state paying for any additional spending required by new standards, unless the local spending is below minimum levels to be determined by the proposed commission.


And then there's this one because I don't want anyone to forget this SOB.

2012 Senate Bill 1363: Allow higher residential utility rates to subsidize Hemlock Semiconductor

Introduced by Sen. Roger Kahn (R) on November 8, 2012, to allow the indefinite continuation of the special electricity rates granted by Consumers Energy to the Hemlock Semiconductor subsidiary of Dow Corning, which under a 2010 law were exempted from a ban on cross-subsidization between residential and commercial/industrial customers (meaning residential customers pay more so that Hemlock can pay less). Hemlock was one of the recipients of extensive state subsidies extensive state subsidies granted by the previous two legislatures to electric car battery, photovoltaic solar cell, and other “renewable” energy companies. Referred to the Senate Energy and Technology Committee on November 8, 2012.

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27 posted on 11/29/2012 6:28:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JamesA

I have a nice little house here in Battle Creek - let me know if you are interested ;-)


28 posted on 11/29/2012 6:33:55 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: crusty old prospector; JustaCowgirl

I think we are up to 21, maybe 22 that are NOT going to do state exchanges.


29 posted on 11/29/2012 6:59:22 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: BlessedBeGod

Great to see, let’s add some more States to the No Obamacare Exchange Plan.


30 posted on 11/29/2012 7:31:06 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: taildragger

The rebellion against ObamaCare grows. Are the Liberal Messiah and Chief Coward Roberts paying attention?


33 posted on 11/29/2012 7:57:42 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: taildragger

Can you list the states that are standing against exchanges? I have been out of the loop for a while, and trying to catch up. Thanks!


34 posted on 11/29/2012 7:57:42 PM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well, she’s a Republican, but not much of one. We have to watch her like a hawk. She wavered on the exchange issue and took a long time to finally do the right thing. Many of us wrote or called to “encourage” her.


35 posted on 11/29/2012 8:11:07 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: taildragger

if pelosi, reid, hoyer, obama, sebellius and their ilk ever saw this, they’d probably figure out a way to shut down this business

(my bad for not knowing how to post links, so you can click on them)

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/15/video-what-free-market-medicine-looks-like/


36 posted on 11/29/2012 8:17:07 PM PST by qaz123
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To: xzins

It’s my understanding that there is no funding provided for a fed exchange in the Obamacare bill.

I don’t think the House is going to help them much. ;o)


37 posted on 11/30/2012 12:03:03 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.)
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To: xzins
That is when Obama will propose a new tax structure: a 2-tiered flat tax + a VAT. (He'll have 2 tiers because he sees his credibility riding on "the rich" paying a higher rate.)

The African communist Ubama can "propose" anything he wants.
But without Republicans joining him in the hot tub, he'll just have to keep playing with himself.

38 posted on 11/30/2012 12:11:41 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Pining_4_TX

I am surprised. I would have thought Oklahoma would have elected a die hard conservative.


39 posted on 11/30/2012 12:28:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: cardinal4

Depends on what you mean by “vote”.


40 posted on 11/30/2012 4:43:51 AM PST by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: JamesA

There is lots of cheap real estate in the greater Detroit area, I hear.


41 posted on 11/30/2012 4:45:29 AM PST by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: Lancey Howard
But without Republicans joining him in the hot tub, he'll just have to keep playing with himself.

For a flat tax and lower capital gains, the republicans will flinch. Count on it. They're going to flinch anyway.

42 posted on 11/30/2012 4:48:09 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Delta Dawn; All
I guess that the fed govt erred in thinking that most of the 57 states would set up their own exchange.

:) humor, informative thread and GRRRRREAT news BUMP! Thanks to all posters.

43 posted on 11/30/2012 4:51:54 AM PST by PGalt
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To: taildragger

so what happens if ObamaCare goes into law, but there’s no infrastructure to implement it?


44 posted on 11/30/2012 7:37:08 AM PST by MNDude
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To: JustaCowgirl

Which is proof that Fallin is not up to the challenge. “Let the feds impose their will on us. We’re not paying for it.”


45 posted on 11/30/2012 8:25:49 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

No, the Rats have been outed. I don’t think a D will ever win Oklahoma again.


46 posted on 11/30/2012 8:28:59 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: taildragger; All

Is there a compiled list of all the states so far that have denied an exchange?


47 posted on 11/30/2012 10:09:36 AM PST by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: NEMDF

Sixteen states — most of them governed by Republicans — have said they will not set up their own systems, forcing the federal government to come up with one instead.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2962953/posts


48 posted on 11/30/2012 12:24:16 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

It looks like 16 was the number on Monday this week. I think several have been added to that, but not sure. AZ, Michigan, ? others?


49 posted on 11/30/2012 2:45:22 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: JustaCowgirl

She is right it really makes no difference, Washington will issue unconstitutional barking orders controlling the usurpation either way. Their just asking our States to get blood on their hands and a financial burden upon their backs for what amount to nothing.

No exchanges no Obamacare. I will never vote for ANY republican that votes for Obamacare or it’s exchanges. That includes the Govern of New Mexico is is now dead to me.


50 posted on 11/30/2012 8:33:27 PM PST by Monorprise
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