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Who's getting rich off of GOP defeat?
American Thinker ^ | 11/29/2012 | Rosslyn Smith

Posted on 11/29/2012 8:30:02 AM PST by Qbert

Eric Erickson at Red State  has been tracing the web of ownership and (conflict of?) interests among the various Republican consulting operations, the 527s and staff at the RNC, NRCC, NRSC, etc. It is complex, but here is a sample.

TargetPoint Consulting and WWP Strategies, two groups connected to Alexander and Katie Packer Gage, both received money from the Romney Campaign wherein Katie Packer Gage served as deputy campaign manager while also serving as a partner at WWP Strategies.

Katie Packer Gage's husband, Alexander, is the CEO and founder of TargetPoint Consulting, which got money both from the Romney campaign and also from Restore Our Future, the Romney Super PAC. Also getting money from the Romney Super PAC was the Black Rock Group.

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Karl Rove's American Crossroads gave money to the Blackrock Group and to Crossroads Media. Michael Dubke is a partner of both.

But supposedly there was a great firewall, no inappropriate coordination, and we should all presume everything was kosher between Black Rock Group, TargetPoint Consulting, WWP Strategies, and Crossroads Media all sharing Suite 555.

Glenn Reynolds suggests one place to start the process of upgrading our messaging is  by forbidding consultants from getting a commission on ad buys.  I like that.  It's a lot easier to buy a few big $$$ ads for cheap to produce attack ads in the wells around the news shows than it is to produce and place dozens of carefully targeted to be placed on a hundred sites with cheap ad rates known to be frequented by low information voters.  

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: consultants; rnc; romney; rove

1 posted on 11/29/2012 8:30:11 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

I was thinking, many conservative groups should hire young conservative and libertarian directors to actually make these campaign adds. Foster creative conservatives and perhaps come up with something fresh and new. Many ads seem to be the same as last time. Shake it up a bit.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 8:35:13 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: Qbert
"all sharing Suite 555"

Beautiful. Shocking. Unexpected.

3 posted on 11/29/2012 8:41:17 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Qbert
"all sharing Suite 555"

Beautiful. Shocking. Unexpected.

4 posted on 11/29/2012 8:41:45 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: ABQHispConservative
I've been working on that same strategy for changing the attitude of conservative strategy. I actually began with the concept a few months before the election. One thing I've learned is that the entrenched old beltway republicans are making a lot of money, win or lose and they will work hard not to give up an power share or dollar share.

Their interests are personal. I honestly think the future of the party and the nation are after thoughts ...if at all.

In my opinion to only future for conservative values in America is going to come from the Tea Party and people like Andrew Breitbart, Michell Malkin and others who are not tethered to the establishment.

5 posted on 11/29/2012 8:44:39 AM PST by Baynative
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To: ABQHispConservative

"I was thinking, many conservative groups should hire young conservative and libertarian directors to actually make these campaign adds. Foster creative conservatives and perhaps come up with something fresh and new. Many ads seem to be the same as last time. Shake it up a bit."

Unfortunately, the GOP-e and its consultant racket have very little interest in winning. What they do have is an interest in taking your money.

I think if Conservatives are going to donate to PACs, etc., they should only donate to groups they trust- if DeMint, Palin, Mark Levin, etc. give the approval, ok- otherwise...

6 posted on 11/29/2012 8:44:54 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Baynative

Unfortunately, we are marginal figures in all this. We truly need a national figure to take us over the hump. I think the big fear is that if we go ahead, the rats will be in control for a long time as we ‘clean house.’ However, we are getting to the point in which, if we procrastinate any further, things will go to hell anyway. Better start now.

And we do need someone up front. Someone that will weather whatever the rats and rinos will throw at him or her.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 8:47:47 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: ABQHispConservative

I forgot it’s name, but the firm used by both Sarah Palin and Rick Perry last year in Franklin, Tennessee was simply awesome.


8 posted on 11/29/2012 8:53:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ABQHispConservative

No Libertarians!!!!


9 posted on 11/29/2012 9:03:23 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ABQHispConservative; kabumpo
The term "conservative" is used too loosely to describe the kind of leadership American citizens need in order to recapture a passion for individual liberty! The label is meaningless unless that passion which motivated the brave souls of 1776 and 1787 to educate their fellow citizens in the ideas absolutely essential to such liberty in a society.

Some of the so-called "conservative" firms mentioned here need to lead a massive education, using the Founders' own words.

Now would be a good time for those who self-identify as conservatives to read Dr. Russell Kirk's "The Conservative Mind, which can be read online, by the way.

In Kirk's last chapter he reviews the works of poets and writers, quoting lines which now seem to bear a strikinig resemblance to the players dominating the stage in American politics today.

For instance, in Robert Frost's "A Case for Jefferson," Frost writes of the character Harrison:

"Harrison loves my country too
But wants it all made over new.
. . . .
He dotes on Saturday pork and beans.
But his mind is hardly out of his teens.
With him the love of country means
Blowing it all to smithereens
And having it made over new."

The pseudointellectuals who occupy the White House, the media, and much of Congress fancy themselves "intellectuals."

By their words and actions, however, they display a provinciality reminiscent of that Dr. Kirk recalls from an essay by T.S. Eliot on Virgil:

"In our time, when men seem more than ever to confuse wisdom with knowledge and knowledge with information and to try to solve the problems of life in terms of engineering, there is coming into existence a new kind of provincialism which perhaps deserves a new name. It is a provincialism not of space but of time--one for which history is merely a chronicle of human devices which have served their turn and have been scrapped, one for which the world is the property solely of the living, a property in which the dead hold no share."(Bold added for emphasis)

In today's case, the "provinciality" seems to be limited to the "progressives'" dabbling in and discussing the ideas of Mao, Marx, and other theoreticians and believing they can impose those ideas on a free people.

America's written Constitution deserves protectors whose minds are out of "their teens" in terms of their understanding of civilization's long struggle for liberty.

It certainly deserves protectors who do not consider it a "flawed" document because it does not permit the government it structures to run rough shod over the rights of its "KEEPERS, the People" (Justice Story).

Blasting it "all to smithereens" seems to be the goal of the current Administration and so-called "progressives" who control the Executive and one-half of the Legislative branch of government.

The Founders' Constitution's strict limits on coercive power by elected representatives are being ignored and disavowed; the free enterprise system which allowed individual citizens to achieve and excel in their chosen pursuits is being co-opted by elected and unelected bureaucrats; and the rights of conscience, speech, and religion are being trampled as we post here.

"The People" should be debating great ideas such as how to preserve liberty, or, in economic matters, the wisdom of the great moral philosopher, Adam Smith's "Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations." Instead, they are being hoodwinked by a president who believes they are ignorant or foolish enough to believe that deficit spending, debt, and government control will lead to prosperity.

When, in 1776, our ancestors felt the heavy hand of the British government "taking" their earnings, regulating their lives, interfering with their beliefs, and asserting coercive control over their actions, they did not waste their time on such trivia.

They wrote great treatises such as "Thoughts on Government" and "Common Sense." They educated their young on the merits of liberty, as opposed to slavery to government, and they did the groundwork which allowed for a written Constitution for self-government to be ratified in the states only eleven years later.

America is about to be bankrupt, both financially and philosophically, and those who have benefited from the Founders' ideas, who call themselves "conservators" (conservatives) of those ideas, should come together to place those ideas before millions of young people who must participate in voting on whether they desire liberty or slavery small-minded men and women in government. Women, youth, men, so-called "seniors"--all need to have the choice presented clearly that decisions being made now pit the ideas of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and America's other Founders against the ideas of Marx, Lenin, and Keynes.

There are always "useful idiots." That's what every oppressive regime has relied upon. A "useful idiot" with a big megaphone is more dangerous to liberty than millions of ordinary ones, because of the ability to lull more people into a sense of complacency.

America, awaken! This decades-long battle for your liberty has been engaged. But, for decades, you have allowed the ideas of your liberty to be censored from your nation's textbooks and public discourse.

Our best weapon is contained in our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution which leaves all the power in "the People's" hands. Read them, amplify upon their principles and ideas by accessing the Founders' writings and speeches.

For a quick review of those principles and the nation's first 50 years under its Constitution, consult John Quincy Adams' "Jubilee" Address here, or a recent reprint of a 1987 Bicentennial collection of the Founders' principles, here.

James Madison stated: "Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

10 posted on 11/29/2012 9:19:05 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: ABQHispConservative

In both US and European political history the resurgence of a strong conservative govt is always associated with a leading figure. He may not always be the architect but he is the voice and image of the movement. Reagan, Thatcher, Gingrich etc. Romney really wasn’t that bad of a presidential candidate but he was far from the leader of a movement. Some vocal folks around here love Palin, and she is indeed a movement leader but it is too small of a segment. I love Gingrich but he is a recycled and somewhat damaged character. Perhaps he has a Nixon, Churchill comeback in him. Unfortunately the Republican farm team tends to produce separate classes of men who have the ideology and conviction to lead vs the ambition and political skill. That explain why the leaders of our party are Boehner and McConnell.


11 posted on 11/29/2012 9:59:43 AM PST by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: Baynative
One thing I've learned is that the entrenched old beltway republicans are making a lot of money, win or lose and they will work hard not to give up an power share or dollar share. Their interests are personal. I honestly think the future of the party and the nation are after thoughts ...if at all.

They are hidebound and entrenched in every way, they don't even remember what the issues are anymore, what drives conservatism and what makes up the character of the conservative voters.

The people of America are even more invisible to them than they are to the democrats, at least the democrats send political agents among the people to win their votes, the GOP seems afraid to walk among us.

12 posted on 11/29/2012 11:47:57 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

That’s brilliant. I’m saving it with credits, of course.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 7:20:44 PM PST by Baynative
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To: Baynative

Thanks.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 7:48:29 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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