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Townhall.com ^ | November 28, 2012 | Walter Williams

Posted on 11/28/2012 2:23:59 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: INVAR
You watch. It’s coming. The signs of what they are going to do are all there.

You can pretend otherwise - but when it starts going down - you are going to be in a state of bewilderment wondering why no one is rising up against the blatant tyranny.

Well, I guess you'd better hurry up and high tail it to some other country before Obama hunts you down and makes an example out of you.

All is lost, so don't delay. Only naive patriots believe otherwise. They'll be the first to turn in their guns before ratting you out to Big Brother.

Get a move on, now. Let us all know where you land, and don't forget to change the location on your FR profile.

81 posted on 11/29/2012 10:29:05 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: INVAR
The first line of your profile says,

Stand Up and Fight!

And you do that by trying to convince anyone who'll listen that, 'the end is nigh, and there's nothing we can do about it.'? What a fraud.

Not to mention, your location is "USA", which shows you're too cowardly to even state where you live. You've been in hiding your whole time here. No wonder you're spreading the doom and gloom message.

82 posted on 11/29/2012 10:36:12 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: INVAR; Windflier
It will create a climate of fear.

Please tell us what it is like to be a coward?

83 posted on 11/29/2012 10:42:34 AM PST by Eaker ( If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.)
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To: Eaker; INVAR
Please tell us what it is like to be a coward?

A coward whose profile says his location is "USA" (otherwise known as hiding).

84 posted on 11/29/2012 10:48:12 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kaslin
Great article. Thanks for posting Kaslin.


85 posted on 11/29/2012 11:00:46 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Windflier

You are not going to survive what is coming stuck in blind belief dressed as patriotism with pie-in-the-sky romantic notions of how nothing bad is going to happen, because we’re America. That MarxoFascist plans to confiscate wealth, guns and property cannot happen.

If you want to walk around blind to what the MarxoFascists are actually doing, or assert what I said is not in the realm of possibility, suit yourself. Cognitive dissonance is not a disease - it’s a condition afflicting a people who cannot accept reality.

A war cannot be won if you underestimate the enemy, or the ability of a people to capitulate to the enemy on the hope of being left alone and unmolested.

The Jews in 1939 Germany suffered this too. They refused to allow themselves to accept the fact they were being exterminated because it defied all logic. They put their heads in the sand and refused to accept the fact that all the ‘hope and change’ Hitler used to transform Germany into the Third Reich, was being orchestrated to enable the German people to accept the criminalization and genocide of Hitler’s enemies. History repeats.

Here is another fun fact for you - one you may be totally ignorant of due your lifetime prosperity: people will betray their own flesh and blood for a mere promise of bread during a time of fear and privation. Food and water are weapons in the hands of a Marxist regime. Those that want ‘their share’ - have to go along with the ideology and actions of the regime that rules them.

If you think this regime can’t achieve it’s aims because they are afraid of the people, you are not paying any attention and are not considering what they have ALREADY achieved.

Know your enemy. Know what they are capable of. Know the ground you stand on that the enemy has chosen. Know the reality of your situation.

Refusal to know those things: no chance of winning a war, much less surviving the battles. That’s fact. One you can choose to ignore, but then you don’t stand a chance of surviving.


86 posted on 11/29/2012 11:03:25 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Windflier
A coward whose profile says his location is "USA" (otherwise known as hiding).

That's rich. Prudence and wisdom are definitely not your strong suits.

87 posted on 11/29/2012 11:27:53 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
Know your enemy. Know what they are capable of. Know the ground you stand on that the enemy has chosen. Know the reality of your situation. Refusal to know those things: no chance of winning a war, much less surviving the battles. That’s fact. One you can choose to ignore, but then you don’t stand a chance of surviving.

Mighty fine words, but you didn't provide a single solution, nor did you advance the idea of resistance to tyranny. Not once.

Translation:

Be afraid....be very afraid, because we the people are weak and defenseless, while the government is all-powerful, gargantuan, and cannot be stopped if it decides to move against us. We can do nothing but comply with their demands, or be destroyed by them. Hide, my friends. Hide and be quiet. Perhaps one day this will pass, and Big Brother will allow us to live in peace again.

88 posted on 11/29/2012 11:31:25 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Liberty Valance

You’re welcome.


89 posted on 11/29/2012 11:44:17 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Windflier

I’ll make it real simple for you then since you apparently have a very low cognizant level of wisdom and prudence.

First, this nation needs to do a II Chronicles 7:14 en masse. We suffer the hands of tyrants because we refuse of ourselves to be governed by God and we surrendered the culture to the godless.

Without God, everything else is moot. Everything.

Second and concurrently - we refuse this enemy. We do not comply. We resist. Every encroachment and act by the enemy now ruling us, we resist. Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God. That should not deceive us to the fact that we will be largely alone in that endeavor. Less than 3% of us will engage in such disobedience of tyranny.

Third, withdraw. Secede. We have no need to go over the cliff to our doom with the MarxoFascists. Let them drive the train over, we do not have any obligation to ride it on down with them.

Fourth, let the enemy make their last mistake and come to enforce their tyranny by the point of a gun due those who refuse to comply. At that point, and only then, do we have a God granted right to resist by all means. Do not discount the mob being riled up to accomplish that task of the tyrants either. That may come down to losing everything, including your life.

But why should we be any different than those who came before us without any knowledge of what came of their sacrifice?

It is possible that God will deliver us to judgment and there is no effort we make that will stop the oblivion scripture says is due a nation of His people who have gone wayward. The blood of millions of infants slaughtered in the womb cries out to Him. We shall not be held guiltless on that score alone - not to mention the adultery, homosexuality and every other sin we have committed as a nation and people blessed above all other nations come into existence.

We’re fools to assume the blessings afforded us due the faith of our patriarchs will continue without repentance. If the Civil War was Judgment for Slavery, we should shudder what God will require for the holocaust of abortion we made into a right.

You are welcome to argue this all you want. But those are the only workable options we have based on scripture, based on history, based on facts, and based on human nature.

If you want to pretend and lie to yourself that another Yorktown is just over the horizon simply because we’re Americans - go ahead and live in that deception. But we will not be joining you in such a wrong and futile cause.


90 posted on 11/29/2012 12:01:37 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

How dare you proclaim that you live in the USA!

/s


91 posted on 11/29/2012 1:13:29 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: KrisKrinkle

It’s funny that the left points out that the “red states” take in more federal money than they pay in taxes, so it’ll be a net loss for them if they leave.

No, really, it won’t, lefties. Because that “federal money” coming in is going to welfare and entitlement programs that just won’t exist anymore in the seceding states.

And, those people who won’t work (we’ll help those who CAN’T work) will pack up and move to where Santa Claus is still active - ie, your “blue” states.

Meanwhile, those folks you’re taxing out the wazoo in order to support your welfare/santa claus programs will pack up and move to the new free states.


92 posted on 11/29/2012 1:22:44 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: INVAR
If you want to pretend and lie to yourself that another Yorktown is just over the horizon simply because we’re Americans - go ahead and live in that deception.

How do you know what I think? I haven't stated such, nor have you bothered to ask. No, you're sitting there rolling off some boilerplate sermon without having the slightest idea who you're even talking to.

After posting about how omnipotent and all-powerful the Obozo regime is, and how we the people have no possible way of fighting back against them, you're now suddenly posturing about "resistance"?

Make up your mind, will you?

93 posted on 11/29/2012 1:30:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: INVAR
Prudence and wisdom are definitely not your strong suits.

Simple courage and plain-spokenness are obviously not yours, which makes you a pontificating poser who would likely run at the first hint of a real fight.

Prove I'm wrong. Stop hiding behind Old Glory and tell us what state you live in.

94 posted on 11/29/2012 1:36:08 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
You paint a picture of a rogue state legislature which moves to secede without the popular support of the people of their state. I assure you, secession won't happen in any state without the people of that state demanding it.

If the feds should decide to arrest a state legislature for treason, they'd have to do it over the dead bodies of the citizenry. Again - the will to mount a campaign of death and destruction to prevent secession of any state, does not exist.

Well, I am only talking about the propaganda (spin) that would accompany federal action to assert control over a state's governmental machinery (i.e., the levers of power). Very little force would be required. The feds would not claim that the action was being taken to suppress or frustrate the desires of secessionists. Instead, the feds would claim that the action was required to protect the Constitutional rights of the American people living within the state. The media and the general public would be very supportive of that story.

Within minutes or hours of the moment that soldier's and trucks began rolling into the state capital along with choppers landing on the capital grounds, the whole thing would be over. Suddenly, there would be very few people who would describe themselves as secessionists. Suddenly, the state police would accept and follow orders from the new, "temporary" authority.

All this is very predictable and consistent with human nature. I am not painting a picture of a "rogue" state legislature; I am predicting that any state officials who participated in an attempted secession would be painted by the feds, the media and the general public as traitors who attempted to deprive American citizens of their rights under the Constitution. Beneath the fold, there would also be stories about how many of these "extremists" blatantly violated their own sacred oaths to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "What could these people have been thinking?"

I believe that what I'm saying here provides a pretty good general description of what would really happen if political leaders of a state attempted to unilaterally secede from the union.

95 posted on 11/29/2012 2:10:13 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Windflier

So when did you stop beating your spouse, pets and kids?

Tell you what Captain Courageous - post your social security info here and reveal who you are, and prove to everyone you put your money where your mouth is. Prove to us you are not a coward yourself, a projectionist who can’t handle the truth.

I mean, it’s only the internet and you got big brass balls of courage, right?

So show us you are not an armchair wannabe patriot who fears reality and is willing and able to fling themselves up front on the firing line, laying it all out there and exposing yourself so everyone can marvel what an unafraid brave soul you are.

Go ahead. Show us.

Show us how ignorant you are of the Second rule of guerrilla warfare. You know the one. The one where you don’t reveal where or who you are.

The one where you let the enemy understand you are everywhere, and nowhere. The one that makes them do the work of trying to find you.

An understanding lost on armchair patriots like yourself who romanticize revolution and puff up their chests with empty bravado to compensate for their own fear of acknowledging reality.

Morons like yourself would be the first fodder cut down in any conflict, because you lack an ability to think beyond hope and rhetoric you puff yourself up with while tearing down others who state facts you don’t like to hear.

So go ahead. Be Pickett. Show us how to march your division right on up the middle into canister and canon fire and beat your chests about how brave you and your dead men are.


96 posted on 11/29/2012 2:16:30 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Tau Food
Within minutes or hours of the moment that soldier's and trucks began rolling into the state capital along with choppers landing on the capital grounds, the whole thing would be over. Suddenly, there would be very few people who would describe themselves as secessionists. Suddenly, the state police would accept and follow orders from the new, "temporary" authority.

Once a state has officially severed all political connections from its mother country, it's no longer a territory of said country. It's an independent, sovereign state, and has every right to repel invasion by a foreign country through whatever military force it can muster (and that includes the militia).

Do you honestly think that Obama's going to risk igniting a real shooting war by sending an invasion force into a hostile country? I don't.

97 posted on 11/29/2012 2:25:42 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tau Food

You speak the truth about how this regime and it’s propaganda media will frame the argument and how the majority of people will view such an effort of secession. Especially when push comes to shove - and shove this MarxoFascist regime WILL do. They need it in order to get this people to accept what they plan to do to those who refuse to go along with this cabal of tyranny.

That fact should not be lost on anyone advocating the need of self preservation by seceding from the Marxist tyranny now engulfing us. Secession is how the Colonies declared their independence from the Crown of tyranny. It was illegal then by all accounts - and no doubt would be declared illegal again and again.

The crown of power will always refuse a people the right to self-determination without government robbery at the point and threat of punishment or death.

That said - this ship is going to go down. We can either get off the ship in groups while it sinks, or wait until it becomes every man for himself. The ship is going down, no avoiding that scenario now. Leaving the sinking ship may be the only way to survive.


98 posted on 11/29/2012 2:28:47 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
Tell you what Captain Courageous - post your social security info here and reveal who you are, and prove to everyone you put your money where your mouth is. Prove to us you are not a coward yourself, a projectionist who can’t handle the truth.

300 words of huff and puff, and you still haven't told us what state you live in. I live in Texas, as my profile shows.

How 'bout you, Mr. Posing Pontificator? You brave enough to come out of hiding? No one's asking for your street address. Or, are you too scared of Big Brother to narrow it down to which state you live in? (as if he doesn't already know)

99 posted on 11/29/2012 2:46:14 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I have no intention of telling you where I reside. None.

If I was hiding - I wouldn't be posting on an internet forum moderated by the Feds. But of note, despite your continuously vapid replies, you still haven't told us when you stopped beating your spouse and kids.

Do you honestly think that Obama's going to risk igniting a real shooting war by sending an invasion force into a hostile country? I don't.

More proof you have absolutely no understanding of this enemy regime now ruling the country or it's intents. None whatsoever. Neither do you understand the history of the ideology that motivates them in the first place.

As such, you have no authority to lecture any of us about resisting this regime. NONE. You have no clue what you are talking about beyond your own silly and sophomoric assertions. Better stick to calling everyone who doesn't suck up your pie-in-the-sky idiotic notions devoid of reality, cowards. It's all you got.

100 posted on 11/29/2012 3:03:53 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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