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Breakaway Democrats Favor Coalition With G.O.P. in State Senate
NY Times ^

Posted on 11/27/2012 7:06:35 PM PST by Arthurio

November 27, 2012

Top Breakaway Democrat Pushes G.O.P. Coalition in State Senate

By THOMAS KAPLAN

Jeffrey D. Klein has been taking calls from labor leaders and rank-and-file state senators. He ate pasta with the Senate majority leader, Dean G. Skelos, a Republican from Long Island. And he sat down, he said, to “clear the air” with the minority leader, John L. Sampson, a Brooklyn Democrat.

For three weeks, Senator Klein has been at once a sought-after and resented man in Albany. When the State Legislature reconvenes in January, he could hold the Senate’s fate in his hands: he leads a breakaway faction of four fellow Democrats who are poised to negotiate a power-sharing agreement with the Senate Republicans.

The exact makeup of the Senate will not be known until the last ballots are counted in two still-unresolved races. But regardless of the outcomes, only a seat or two will separate the two parties, and Mr. Klein is pushing for what he described as a “bipartisan coalition,” made up of his breakaway foursome and the Senate Republican caucus, to control the Senate.

“I think we can actually show that our democracy in New York State does not have to be chaotic,” Mr. Klein said in an interview in his district office in the Bronx on Tuesday. “It could work, Democrats and Republicans working together to get things done.”

Democrats emerged from Election Day claiming to have won a majority in the Senate — which had been controlled by Republicans — but their chances at running the chamber have diminished.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/27/2012 7:06:44 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Impy

You called this.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 7:17:40 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Sun; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

Good, good.

Or bad, maybe it’s better to let them all have all the blame, I just worry about what they would pass with full control.

GOP candidate pulled back ahead in one the races being recounted too.


3 posted on 11/27/2012 10:19:04 PM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Sun; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

However this democrat better understand he’d be the jr. partner, especially if the GOP regains a clear majority in 2014.


4 posted on 11/27/2012 10:21:35 PM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: Impy

Gay marriage probably would not have passed if the Democrats had control ironically enough.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 10:28:02 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Why not? The GOP traitors wouldn’t have broken ranks?


6 posted on 11/27/2012 10:31:19 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy

Where can I find the latest news on the two uncalled NY Senate races?

If the GOP wins at least one, it will be in the majority with the vote of Felder (the Conservative/Democrat); the four “independent Democrats” would be gravy.


7 posted on 11/28/2012 4:15:06 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Sun; Arthurio

I just do a google news search for the name “Tkaczyk”.

The latest articles say the Republican is up 110 votes over her.

A twitter search is also helpful, people tweet news links. Democrats seem to banking on the courts.

In the other one Republican incumbent Saland trails by over 1600, no chance. He lost because of the Conservative party candidate (got 14%), who ran cause Saland was a gay marriage traitor. Stupid traitor.


8 posted on 11/28/2012 12:52:02 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; Sun; Arthurio

“In the other one Republican incumbent Saland trails by over 1600, no chance. He lost because of the Conservative party candidate (got 14%), who ran cause Saland was a gay marriage traitor. Stupid traitor.”


Sounds like a pretty easy GOP pickup in 2014, assuming the GOP nominates the Conservative Party-endorsed candidate.


9 posted on 11/28/2012 4:29:09 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Impy

“..Saland was a gay marriage traitor. Stupid traitor.”

Yup.

And I sure hope Tkaczyk loses. She seems like an especially bad liberal Dem.


10 posted on 11/28/2012 8:42:40 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I love your tagline.


11 posted on 11/28/2012 8:46:55 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Sun; fieldmarshaldj

You know what’s sick? Saland won the GOP primary over the Conservative (same guy) by only 107 votes. He lost he Conservative primary by 60 points (less than 400 votes total were cast).

The combined GOP and Conservative vote was 56%. Saland got 60% in 2010 and 58% in 2008. So barring another screwup the rat will be a 1-termer.


12 posted on 11/28/2012 9:55:25 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Sun; AuH2ORepublican

The spelling of her surname offends me. Someone at Ellis Island should be posthumously fired!


13 posted on 11/28/2012 10:02:18 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Sun

Thanks.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 2:20:56 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Impy

I wonder where that spelling came from? In Amsterdam, NY, etc., there are Traczyk’s. But her name is spelled really weird.


15 posted on 11/29/2012 10:30:42 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun; AuH2ORepublican

It appears to be Galician, A region divided between Poland and the Ukraine. There are people from both countries with the name.

Amedore is ahead by 111 votes. Democrats are in court asking for challenged ballots to be counted (absentees the applications for which were not properly filled out). They assume, probably correctly, that such dubious ballots will break their way. And of course it is our side that has “ contempt for democracy” according to rat Senator Liz Krueger.


16 posted on 12/04/2012 10:02:03 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; Sun

There are two Galicias: the one in Poland, and the one in Spain (from whence the Gallegos hail). The similar names are not coincidental: both regions were settled by Celtic peoples (notice how similar the word Galicia is to the word Gaelic), and I believe that bagpipes are traditional instruments in both Galicias (they certainly are among the Gallegos, as they are among the fellow Celtic Asturians nextdoor).

But the most curious similarity between the two Galicias is the following: in Poland, they don’t make Polish jokes, of course, but they do tell Galician jokes, which are pretty much the same as American Polish jokes. And in Spain, the local version of Polish jokes are ... wait for it ... Gallego jokes! And in England they tell Irish jokes, don’t they, or is it Welsh jokes? (Either way, both the Irish and the Welsh are Celts.) I guess Celts get picked on no matter where they live.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 5:59:09 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Impy

“It appears to be Galician, A region divided between Poland and the Ukraine. ..”

Very interesting, particularly since I’m half Polish.

I hope Amedore wins, especially since he’s more conservative than most of the NY Republicans, imo.


18 posted on 12/04/2012 6:22:33 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

I thought that was s coincidence. But it’s not surprising that it’s not.

I know their language in the Spanish Galicia is closer to Portuguese so it makes sense they are treated like butt monkeys. Politically they seem to vote the right way.

Celts are very interesting, they were all over but only 1 modern independent country, Ireland, the Celtic Israel? ;d Maybe to be joined by Scotland but independence trails in the polls, which is great news for Labour.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 9:54:44 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; Sun; fieldmarshaldj

Judge certifies Amedore’s 37-vote victory over Tkaczyk in SD-46: http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/173857/judge-certifies-amedores-senate-win/

Tkaczyk will appeal, of course, but if you read the judge’s opinion (included at the link) it doesn’t sound like she’ll be aboe to get too many additional ballots counted, much less enough to make up a 37-vote deficit.

So with Amedore winning and that one conservative Democrat from the “Super Jewish District” (Simcha Felder) joining the Republican caucus, the GOP has a majority even before those 5 members of the “Independent Democratic Conference” vote for Skelos.

Now the state Senate needs to make some changes to the constitutional amendment setting up independent redistricting and approve it with such new language so that the exact same amendment is not adopted by both houses for a second straight term, meaning that it will not be sent to the voters. And given that the state House likely won’t adopt a modified amendment, that would mean that going into the 2014 elections Democrats who want to adopt that amendment will need to get both houses to pass it with identical language in both the 2015-16 term and the 2017-18 term (or in both in both the 2017-18 term and the 2019-20 term), and then have the voters approve it, for it to be in place for post-2020-Census redistricting.

Cuomo will claim that Republicans went back on their word to adopt an independent redistricting panel, but Republicans could claim that they merely improved the language of the amendment and that it was the Democrats who refused to adopt it. If the Republicans keep control of the Senate after te 2020 elections, the party would then have a seat at the table for redistricting, and would be able to protect their Senate districts (and stop Democrats from gerrymandering congressional districts) for another decade.

Anyhow, that’s what NY Senate Republicans would do if they had balls. And given that doing this would be for their personal benefit, yhey might just do it.


20 posted on 12/20/2012 11:40:24 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Excellent!

And yes they’ve got to kill that redistricting thing. We know what “fair non-partisan” lines will likely look like.


21 posted on 12/20/2012 10:36:21 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks for the info.!

Hooray Amedore!

Also, I heard Mike Huckabee say Cuomo was discussing about confiscating guns.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 12:07:21 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Sun; fieldmarshaldj

Did you hear? Tkaczyk got the steal. 19 votes. Disgusting. They always find juuuuuuuuust enough.


23 posted on 01/27/2013 11:33:03 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; Sun; fieldmarshaldj

No, I hadn’t heard. Judges counted just enough illegally cast ballots to give The Liberal with the Unspellable Name the victory: http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/176331/tkaczyk-wins-after-picking-up-tk-votes-in-ulster-count/

I guess it’s a good thing that senate Republicans made that power-sharing deal with moderate Democrats, or the Democrats would be in control.


24 posted on 01/28/2013 6:05:32 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; All

Did you hear George Soros’ son (and friends) gave Tkaczyk $one-half million for her campaign?


25 posted on 01/28/2013 11:30:15 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

No, but I find that as shocking as when Jodie Foster admitted she was a lesbian a couple weeks ago. Flabbergasting! ;d


26 posted on 01/28/2013 11:56:10 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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