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The Shot That Prevents Heart Attacks
Yahoo ^ | 26 Noov 2012 | Lisa Collier Cool

Posted on 11/26/2012 10:01:36 PM PST by shove_it

If you’re tempted to skip your flu shot, consider this: Getting vaccinated cuts risk for a heart attack or stroke by up to 50 percent, according to two studies presented at the Canadian Cardiovascular Congress.

Scientists from TIMU Study Group and Network for Innovation in Clinical Research analyzed published clinical trials involving a total of 3,227 patients, half of whom had been diagnosed with heart disease. Participants, whose average age was 60, were randomly assigned to either receive flu vaccine or a placebo shot, then their health was tracked for 12 months.

Those who got the flu shot were 50 percent less likely to suffer major cardiac events (such as heart attacks or strokes) and 40 percent less likely to die of cardiac causes. Similar trends were found in patients with and without previous heart disease. The findings suggest “that flu vaccine is a heart vaccine,” lead study author Jacob Udell told Fox News.

Why do flu shots help prevent heart attacks? [...]

(Excerpt) Read more at health.yahoo.net ...


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Hmmmmm. I'm wondering, how many people in such a clinical trial would go and get another flu shot just in case they may have been given the placebo.
1 posted on 11/26/2012 10:01:42 PM PST by shove_it
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To: shove_it

As far as I’m concerned this is just another reason to skip the shot.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 10:04:27 PM PST by null and void (Knowledge increases exponentially, wisdom increases logarithmically.)
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To: shove_it

What a bunch of BS....read the comments after the article....


3 posted on 11/26/2012 10:15:08 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: null and void

I don’t need a reason to skip the flu shot.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 10:16:20 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: shove_it
Correlation is not causation. Explain the mechanism.
5 posted on 11/26/2012 10:19:08 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: shove_it; All

Something just isn’t right with this study...

It’s like saying....”Those who root for the Alabama school with red helmets are more likely to see winning football than those who root for the Alabama school with white helmets”


6 posted on 11/26/2012 10:21:44 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Marco Rubio is not a Conservative. "Amnesty Liberals" are never Conservative)
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To: Myrddin

They explain it fully in the article that you didn’t bother to read.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 10:25:07 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: goodnesswins

Lots of looney comments for sure. The dark ages have returned. It is sad to also see that there are so few educated and enlightened FReepers left.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 10:27:58 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: goodnesswins

Oh another study funded by a government. Kinda like the government funded hoax called global warming . Sure there is no agenda and it’s all fake but accurate. I don’t trust anything from the media or government. government doesn’t work. I wonder why they want us to take the flu shot so badly? Any ideas?


9 posted on 11/26/2012 10:29:57 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: All


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10 posted on 11/26/2012 10:29:57 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Kirkwood

It’s pretty interesting. It kind of debunks all of the cholesterol-high fat-sedentary lifestyle theories of heart disease. Or at least a good portion of it.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 10:32:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: shove_it

These studies are so stupid. I learned that me punching you in the face increases your anger 10 fold.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 10:37:44 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Kirkwood
They explain it fully in the article that you didn’t bother to read.

Please, it was written by a chick.
13 posted on 11/26/2012 10:40:03 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Kirkwood

Maybe the ignorant are just more vocal in response to articles like this.


14 posted on 11/26/2012 11:03:37 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kirkwood

Oh, really? I’ll stick with my fish oil, Vit D3 and niacin...thank you.... The flu shot only covers something like 1-2 different viruses.....and there are MANY more out there....So, WHICH version of the “flu” does this particular shot cover?


15 posted on 11/26/2012 11:11:55 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: shove_it

If this is so, maybe the reason why is that fewer flus means fewer strenuous coughs, which in turn can stress the circulatory system. Just a guess. It’s worth investigating to see if it’s true. Vaccines of any sort are a health trade off, and if I were king I’d make them all voluntary.


16 posted on 11/26/2012 11:50:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: shove_it; All
duh! ..if you're looking after yourself..healthwise..
you'll live longer &/ better...simply that!

17 posted on 11/27/2012 12:01:10 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: shove_it
300,000 Flu Vaccines Recalled Over Serious Adverse Reactions
18 posted on 11/27/2012 12:05:24 AM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Kirkwood
It's still a crap study...even after reading it. The patients all had diagnosed heart disease and the study period lasted 12 months. They report observed occurrences of cardiac events and postulate that inflammation caused by flu was the cause of those events. They can't prove those immunized were ever actually exposed to flu. There is no control for whether those participants in the study were offered other medications that reduce inflammation independent of the flu shot. It's a puff piece to push flu shots.
19 posted on 11/27/2012 12:06:08 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: goodnesswins
My daily regimen of supplements gets the job done for me. No flu shots since 2005. No flu since then either. My co-workers go for the damn shot and lose a couple weeks of work every year. I soldier on unaffected.
20 posted on 11/27/2012 12:11:09 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Daffynition

Uh oh. Lisa Collier Cool must have missed this piece of the puzzle.


21 posted on 11/27/2012 12:38:00 AM PST by shove_it ( No representation without taxation.)
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To: goodnesswins

“I’ll stick with my fish oil, Vit D3 and niacin...”

I’m with you. I’ve added natto to my daily regime. Check it out.


22 posted on 11/27/2012 1:10:38 AM PST by ryderann
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To: shove_it

My father got the flu shot religeously and chastized me for skipping it. He died of a massive stroke anyway inspite of this and including watching his weight, diet, and taking meds for the last 20 years. So much for this propaganda.


23 posted on 11/27/2012 1:26:42 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Democrat_media

” - - - I wonder why they want us to take the flu shot so badly? Any ideas? “

Big pharma makes billions off them. And their minions go back and forth into big gov.

I think I heard on coasttocoast that they can make CHIPS small enough to fit the injectors. hmmmmm did I also hear someone who knew they were making chips by the zillions ...


24 posted on 11/27/2012 2:16:15 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: Myrddin

Your reading comprehension isn’t too good.


25 posted on 11/27/2012 2:28:47 AM PST by iowamark
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To: MachIV
He died of a massive stroke anyway inspite of this and including watching his weight, diet, and taking meds for the last 20 years.

They didn't say it totally eliminated the risk, did they?

So much for this propaganda.

Kind of like saying you know someone who died in a fire even though he had a smoke alarm, therefore smoke alarms are useless.

26 posted on 11/27/2012 2:32:58 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: shove_it

I have not had a flu shot since 1978. I am still alive.


27 posted on 11/27/2012 2:36:32 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: shove_it

I can say, this does not correlate with my personal experience in a hospital environment. Maybe they should claim flu shots cure cancer or supercharge your sex life. Of course, my finding are not government funded and documented, just 25 years of observation. I have not had a flu shot since the military mandate... that would be 20 years. Might have had one mild case of the flu. A simple does of Walmart Mag-Zinc for an immune boost while people cough and spread their vaccination all around me. In the medical field I have a high exposure to every acute infection endemic to our region. Happy, healthy and full of energy.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 2:52:28 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

if you want to be niave enough to believe this rubbish, it’s your preference


29 posted on 11/27/2012 3:18:24 AM PST by MachIV
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To: shove_it

50 percent of the participants have heart disease.
50 percent of the participants receiving flu shots did not have a heart attack.
Sounds like they gave flu shots to the healthy 50 percent, and then concluded the clinical trial was a success. Who funded this?


30 posted on 11/27/2012 3:20:02 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (Reality ruins everything.)
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To: Myrddin

Magnesium, potassium, vitamin E, fish oil, Lisinopril and an aspirin work for me. Creds to FReeper Swordmaker(?) on the magnesium and potassium suppliments. They took care of chest pains and heart discomfort I had when sleeping on my right side.


31 posted on 11/27/2012 3:44:14 AM PST by Justa
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To: shove_it

How can you skip something you have never done? Getting the shot is not the default position.


32 posted on 11/27/2012 4:08:11 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: shove_it

So.....this is being piloted as ObamaCare therapy for a heart attack? A freegin’ flu shot?!!!!!


33 posted on 11/27/2012 4:10:27 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: shove_it

Can we just stop already with promoting products for pharma !!!!!!!!!!!!

It is not productive to make and take pills unnecessarily.

Money (=time=work) spent on something that is not needed.

Just go write a check every day to a pharma company for $500. Go ahead, do it !!!

Studies show, if you do that, you’ll live forever.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 5:44:47 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: shove_it

The objective of this article is to encourage dependency on government and its cronies.


35 posted on 11/27/2012 6:18:21 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: null and void
As far as I’m concerned this is just another reason to skip the shot.

Yep - let my wife talk me into the shot this year after missing the last 6 years - been sick on and off for 7 weeks with something that won't let go. She's also been sick since a week after getting hers and is going on 5 weeks of being sick. Time to swear off the shots for good.

36 posted on 11/27/2012 6:45:58 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: shove_it

Boy oh boy are they pushing this shot hard this year.. next thing you know they will claim it reduces global warming and cures cancer.. lol

I wonder when people will question as to WHY there is such a hard push to get this garbage in people’s arms every year.


37 posted on 11/27/2012 12:21:53 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Myrddin

Actually they do, heart attacks tend to be preceded by respiratory infection, flu shots help prevent those, thus reducing heart attacks.

Which still leaves the old situation of if you don’t get the flu you don’t need the shot. Because it won’t stop people who already don’t get the flu (and subsequent infections) from having non-infection related hear attacks.


38 posted on 11/27/2012 12:30:02 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: bmwcyle

I’ve NEVER had one.

I’m going on 85.

I’ve only had the flu once in 14 years.


39 posted on 11/27/2012 12:39:17 PM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: eXe
I wonder when people will question as to WHY there is such a hard push to get this garbage in people’s arms every year.

A search of stories regarding Baxter and European innoculations would be enough to make anyone swear off flu shots forever. Unless they've been scrubbed. Frankly, I don't trust the government any more.

40 posted on 11/27/2012 1:06:36 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: trebb

Never trust a woman’s judgement in my experience...a woman ate the apple and got us booted from paradise and women put Obama back in office. Sorry you’re not feeling well, but check Baxter in Europe regarding vaccinations and you will never have another government shot.


41 posted on 11/27/2012 1:21:34 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: eXe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXahpeMdUc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqBWr5xY6N0

Two Baxter videos. Research more if you want...


42 posted on 11/27/2012 1:31:35 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Running On Empty

The Flu Shot is Bull Crap.


43 posted on 11/27/2012 1:43:38 PM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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