The GOP's California Lesson (You want amnesty? Look at what's happening in the once Golden State)

American Thinker ^ | 11/26/2012 | Jared E. Peterson

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There's been much verbal hand wringing since the election about the Republican Party's alleged urgent need to modify its stance on amnesty -- this, it's argued, is the key to improving Republican showing among Hispanic voters (Romney got about 22% of the Hispanic vote). As but one of many recent examples, see James Doti's November 16, 2012, opinion piece in the Orange County Register, a normally sensible newspaper.

Almost all this panicked chatter, Doti's included -- from both conservative commentators and Republican office holders -- is based on a willful refusal to see the obvious.

Those who argue that the Republican Party should endorse "a path to citizenship" for ten (twenty?) million illegals ignore the fundamental economic basis for the Democrats' tightening vise grip on the U.S. Hispanic vote: Hispanics, especially those of recent Mexican and Central American origin and their children, do not vote Democrat because they want open borders, but because they are eager for government benefits.

The Republican Party can't cure that economic reality, which is driving Hispanic allegiance to Democrats, by altering its stance on amnesty -- but it could fatally damage the Republican Party by that change.

The US sub-demographic of Mexican and Central American recent arrivals and their children constitutes an immense portion of the overall U.S. Hispanic population (in fact, it's a substantial majority), and its percentage among the U.S. Hispanic population would increase dramatically if a new amnesty were adopted. This sub-demographic is almost certainly voting Democrat in percentages far greater than the overall 2012 Hispanic Democrat vote of 71%.

Any weakening of the Republican Party's longstanding position on a second massive amnesty (President Reagan's 1986 mistake was the first) would be seen by Hispanics as insincere, Johnny-come-lately pandering, and for that reason alone would gain the Party few votes from Hispanics.

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The following can't be emphasized often enough:

Hispanics don't vote Democrat because Republicans believe the US has a real border with Mexico -- they vote Democrat because huge percentages of arriving Hispanics are impoverished third world immigrants or their children, and as such are natural clients of the welfare state. Despite the admirable eagerness of most Hispanics to work, they also want as many government benefits and as much public support as they can get. And by now their communities are very well informed about which political party has that on perpetual offer.

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NOTE ON PROPOSITION 30 ( WHERE CALIFORNIANS VOTED FOR A TAX INCREASE ):

California whites did not vote for Proposition 30.

Hispanics, however, did vote for it IN LARGE NUMBERS.

In short, Democrats didn’t change Californians’ minds on taxes or two party government — it changed Californians.

It wants to do the same for the rest of the nation. A second amnesty would merely expedite the Democrats’ achievement of their chief goal: bringing to the whole of America the California demographics that brought third world political, economic, and tax conditions to California.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Hispanics don't vote Democrat because Republicans believe the US has a real border with Mexico — they vote Democrat because huge percentages of arriving Hispanics are impoverished third world immigrants or their children, and as such are natural clients of the welfare state. Despite the admirable eagerness of most Hispanics to work, they also want as many government benefits and as much public support as they can get. And by now their communities are very well informed about which political party has that on perpetual offer. “

[brownsfan]

"The following can't be emphasized often enough:

Hispanics don't vote Democrat because Republicans believe the US has a real border with Mexico -- they vote Democrat because huge percentages of arriving Hispanics are impoverished third world immigrants or their children, and as such are natural clients of the welfare state. Despite the admirable eagerness of most Hispanics to work, they also want as many government benefits and as much public support as they can get. And by now their communities are very well informed about which political party has that on perpetual offer. "

This is on the money, but Rush made an additional observation that I think is important. To illegal Mexican immigrants, the government is the source of wealth.

[ABQHispConservative]

I am curious for all Cali freepers, what does the CA-GOP do for outreach? Do they at least do some town halls and such? Or do they expect people to head against the wall and magically become Republicans?

[OrangeHoof]

California is also an object lesson to what you get when RINOs control the GOP and preach liberal-lite.

[Mouton]

Pay for something and you generally find more people wanting to be on the receiving end.

I am beyond tired of the notion we need to take care of everyone who wishes to come here. If you have an employable skill, fine...if not, stay home.

[PGR88]

Facts are stubborn things and this one will not go away: When America has the demographics of California, it will also have the politics, economic policy and taxes of California:

Replace the word "California" with "Central America" - if you want to know where the US is headed, study the politics and economics of Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia.

[ridesthemiles]

Wait until Californians realize that they have elected a veto-proof legislature.

Prop 13 stands a high chance of being unraveled by the Democrats. They hate that they cannot keep raising property taxes beyond the limits of Prop 13, and they cannot wait to remove those restrictions.

How many home owners in Calif will no longer be able to stay in their homes there????

[Tennessee Nana]

AMNESTY Bill PING

[SMARTY]

“...the Republican party should be relentlessly directing a blinding spotlight on the now ongoing and unstoppable pillage of California — and reminding Americans of the Democratic Party-engineered demographic revolution that made possible the ongoing destruction of what was once the nation’s most vital and prosperous economy.”

[originalbuckeye]

When my husband emigrated here in the mid-80’s, we had to show that he had a marketable skill and would not be a burden on the Government. How far we have fallen.

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RE: When my husband emigrated here in the mid-80’s, we had to show that he had a marketable skill and would not be a burden on the Government.

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Canada and Australia still have the Skilled Labor migration program ( the points system ) in place.

We say we have such a system but have nothing to show for it in practice... which is to say ... our immigration system is a joke.

[ssaftler]

When my husband emigrated here in the mid-80’s, we had to show that he had a marketable skill and would not be a burden on the Government.

Nowadays, that kind of thing might get you deported. Only welfare cheats and layabouts need apply for naturalization in today's bizarro world!

[longtermmemmory]

Greece had TWO illegal alien amnesty events. See how well they are doing?

[rbg81]

California is also an object lesson to what you get when RINOs control the GOP and preach liberal-lite.

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I blame the Courts a lot more than the RHINOs. In the early-mid 90s, there was still a desire in CA to stop the madness with Prop 187, but the Courts overturned it. Actually, the Courts, with their ridiculous rulings starting in the 1960s, are the ones who have gradually cleared the way for unregulated immigration.

[grumpa]

I have a friend who was brought here by his parents when he was 9. He is not legal. He does landscaping work. My conversations with him lead me to believe that neither he nor others in his community receive taxpayer funded benefits. When his family has to get medical treatment he either goes to the emergency room or the “clinic” and always pays cash for health services.

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RE: My conversations with him lead me to believe that neither he nor others in his community receive taxpayer funded benefit

Did you ask him if he voted in 2012?

[brownsfan]

“I have a friend who was brought here by his parents when he was 9. He is not legal. He does landscaping work. My conversations with him lead me to believe that neither he nor others in his community receive taxpayer funded benefits. When his family has to get medical treatment he either goes to the emergency room or the “clinic” and always pays cash for health services.”

Ok? So, are you telling me that most illegals don’t want government dependency, and therefore don’t vote Democrat? (In spite of the fact that they shouldn’t vote at all.)

If that’s the case, can you explain Obama’s re-election?

Or, are you just telling me you know one quality illegal family? Not hard to believe. In any group there will be outliers.

[noinfringers2]

It is going to be some very interesting times in the USA when the Hispanics with large populations are confronted with Islamists who also are growing by leaps and bounds. As of now both groups can work against traditional USA social foundations but as things are going the confrontations will change.