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‘Kill List’ rule book may be coming soon to the White House Situation Room
The Ticket ^ | 11/25/2012 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 11/25/2012 3:18:15 PM PST by haffast

The White House "kill list"--a regularly updated chart showing the world's most wanted terrorists used by President Barack Obama during kill or capture debates--may soon be getting a rule book to go with it.

According to the New York Times, the administration--faced with the possibility that President Obama might lose the 2012 election to Mitt Romney--"accelerated work in the weeks before the election to develop explicit rules for the targeted killing of terrorists by unmanned drones, so that a new president would inherit clear standards and procedures."

Until now, President Obama has had the "final moral calculation" overseeing the "kill list," the existence of which was first revealed in May in the wake of a drone strike that killed an al-Qaida leader.

But according to the paper, administration officials are looking to curb the power of the commander in chief with the rule book:

"There was concern that the levers might no longer be in our hands," said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity. With a continuing debate about the proper limits of drone strikes, Mr. Obama did not want to leave an "amorphous" program to his successor, the official said. The effort, which would have been rushed to completion by January had Mr. Romney won, will now be finished at a more leisurely pace, the official said.

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Earlier this year, critics of the "kill list" launched a petition on the White House website to create a "Do Not Kill" list to protect U.S. citizens from drone strikes by their own government. The petition, though, failed to meet the 25,000-signature threshold required to get an official response from the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; drones; gdbo; killlist; killlistrulebook; obamakilllist
How thoughtful of Dear Leader. Even though the petition did not meet the threshold he has given a response:

Rule #1

"If there is the slim or great chance an American citizen might be killed..."STAND DOWN".

First implemented in Benghazi, 9/11/12. /sarc

1 posted on 11/25/2012 3:18:21 PM PST by haffast
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To: haffast

It’s OK to kill people with Democrat missiles. It is not OK to kill people with Republican missiles.


2 posted on 11/25/2012 3:23:16 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: haffast

Thank God Odumbo doesn’t use Water-boarding!!


3 posted on 11/25/2012 3:25:12 PM PST by jacob allen
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To: haffast
"so that a new president would inherit clear standards and procedures."

B.S., B.S, B.S.!!!!!!

0bama wanted to shield himself from criminal prosecution after leaving office. 0bama could give a f--k about clear standards and procedures otherwise.

4 posted on 11/25/2012 3:31:24 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: haffast

Under Obama it is quickly becoming safer to not live within the US. At least if you are outside the US, there is a chance that the local government might try to protect you or at least raise a stink after the fact.


5 posted on 11/25/2012 3:33:00 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: haffast

The problem with “kill” lists is that those on the list make up their own lists.


6 posted on 11/25/2012 3:34:51 PM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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7 posted on 11/25/2012 4:09:33 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: haffast
I'd rather have the "kill" decision made by the President than by some bureaucratic underling. The problem is not with the kill list but with the President we have. We can't trust him to use his power wisely.
8 posted on 11/25/2012 4:20:32 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: haffast

This is what comes to my mind when I think of this administration hidden away safely in the White House Situation Room with a drone circling some remote village and a ‘kill list’ drawn up by valerie jarrett,

With this type of authority unchecked and growing, its just scary,

“He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor. He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net. “
Psalm 10:8-9 KJV


9 posted on 11/25/2012 4:29:27 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: haffast

Four or fewer...no action required....


10 posted on 11/25/2012 4:49:08 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: haffast
"There was concern that the levers might no longer be in our hands," said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity. With a continuing debate about the proper limits of drone strikes, Mr. Obama did not want to leave an "amorphous" program to his successor, the official said.

Oh, so it's ok when you do it that way, just not for anyone else? F'ng hypocrites. You are everything you accuse the other side of being. Everything. As discussed in another thread, my bug-out-bag isn't for natural disasters, it is for when my own government comes after me just for loving freedom and liberty.

11 posted on 11/25/2012 5:12:12 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: haffast

First Nobel Peace Prize winner with a kill list.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 6:18:24 PM PST by two23
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To: haffast

The updated Kill List to include all those who signed the secession poll on www.whitehouse.gov, who so thoughtfully provided their IP addressess to Dear Leader.

It will also include the membership list of the NRA and GOP. If you think those lists are protected, think again.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 6:38:19 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: haffast

what a load of crap. The drone program started before Obama and Obama simply continued it. If Romney had become President he wouldn’t have needed Barack’s rules on how to “carry out kills while President is on golf course”


14 posted on 11/25/2012 6:51:17 PM PST by plain talk
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To: haffast

What goes around can come around in the hands of our own government or in the hands of terrorists (see my tag line)!

See also Caltech micro-UAV survey of near future asymmetric lethal capabilities with declassified roadmap for multiple Kamikazi micro-UAV anti-personnel drones:

http://www.pickar.caltech.edu/e103/papers/Micro%20UAVs.pdf

In the near future, micro-UAV’s will experience the most growth in the defense industry, as their surveillance capabilities will be highly sought after in a world of asymmetric warfare.

Furthermore, micro-UAV’s will develop the capability to execute lethal force on the battlefield, as infantry and special operations forces develop an acceptance of unmanned technologies. This shift will initially be imperfectly implemented though, as a learning curve exists at the senior leadership level of the military and the Department of Defense.

Consider Figure 2 from a recently declassified Air Force Report, which details the MAV capabilities that are desired in the future: (see figure page 7)

ii. Strike Capability

Another capability that we examined in depth was the ability of a MAV to execute lethal force. We began with the hypothesis that in the near future increased payload capacities would allow MAV’s to deploy some specially adapted weapons system. Our most recent research illustrates that although there is a desire to weaponize MAV’s, payload capacity is not increasing fast enough to make this a reality. Thus, AeroVironment led an effort to develop a small unmanned aerial system referred to as the Switchblade (pictured below), which is small enough to be carried in a backpack, can be launched into the air through a tube, can stream real-time video, and carries a small warhead that explodes on impact. Thus, the system is designed to be a small, unmanned Kamikaze capable of eliminating small groups of individuals and light vehicles. AeroVironment received $4.9 million for this project in 2011 from DARPA, $5.1 million from the U.S. Army on March 20, 2012, and the company predicts that the device will be carried by American soldiers in 1-2 years [10].

This prediction, with regards to UAV’s, is in line with the Unmanned Aircraft Systems Roadmap released by the Department of Defense, which predicts that the Predator and Global Hawk platforms (the major full size UAV systems used today) will be in service until 2030. (see future UAV roadmap page 10)


15 posted on 11/25/2012 7:02:06 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Old Sarge

” The updated Kill List to include all those who signed the secession poll on www.whitehouse.gov, who so thoughtfully provided their IP addressess to Dear Leader.

It will also include the membership list of the NRA and GOP. If you think those lists are protected, think again. “

Those people would be known as today’s PATRIOTS !


16 posted on 11/25/2012 7:03:16 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: haffast

Available on Kindle?


17 posted on 11/25/2012 7:04:47 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: haffast

This is despot dictator stuff.

Have we photoshopped any king pictures of Hussein, crown scepter and robe?


18 posted on 11/25/2012 7:10:10 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: haffast

I think there is suspicious that Obama supporters have been deliberately messing with petitions by splitting them up so the signatures don’t reach the needed level.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 7:15:45 PM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus scandal - "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: two23
First Nobel Peace Prize winner with a kill list.

Perhaps... Don't forget that the late and unlamented Yasir Arafat 'won' the Nobel Peace Prize as well. I would not doubt that *he* had a kill list as well...

the infowarrior

20 posted on 11/25/2012 8:54:38 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: haffast

Nixon only had an enemies list. Obama has a kill list.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 11:02:33 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Flick Lives
When did the executive branch become a worldwide judge, jury, and administrator of drive-by assasination ! ,

I dont remember that enumerated powers clause in the constitution

22 posted on 11/25/2012 11:38:12 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: Chickensoup

23 posted on 11/25/2012 11:54:29 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: haffast

When I read Kill list in the title, I thought it was going to be about Obamacare and the death panels.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 6:26:57 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: haffast; Fred Nerks

Yet, no one seems to understand.

Obama is a FASCIST ( sorry for yelling)!!

A tango here , a tango there, who cares?

But bear in mind that the Dept of Homeland Security has an
operating position paper that terrorists in America come from Ex military and right wing extremists ( fascist code word for conservatives), so called.

But then a TANGO is a TANGO...who cares?

The president will push the drone button whenever he wishes.
And if it happens that the target is an American Citizen, who is successfully rallying the masses to revolt against Obama, then who is to say that person is not a Tango? Is he not a TANGO?

Barak , a fascist animal, after all, is simply doing what fascists do.And he already has a data base of the GPS coordinates of every one counted in the last census in a discretely accessable data base at the White Hut. Just punch those numbers into theat slick, Obama, missile carrying drone.FASCIST FAIT ACCOMPLIS!!!

Obama is making sure that the next leftist president has the SAME power.The fact is that the treasonous lot of them should be tried, convicted , jailed and forgotten.

Good Read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


25 posted on 11/26/2012 4:46:23 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: haffast

I would bet good money there’s a private list with Tea Party people’s names written all in it. They have more than once called us domestic terrorists.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 12:15:31 AM PST by eak3
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To: eak3

-Bible Believen’active Churchmember
-Old
-White
-Guy
-Conservative worldview to the Right of the GOP
-On FR since 1998
-Former FFL License holder
-Formerly active practical shooter (IPSC)
-Drives in the Right lane except to pass
-Walks down the Right side of a store aisle
-Holds doors open for others
-Have back-ups to my back-ups
-Independent do-it-my-selfer
-wife gets nervous when she hears a helicopter fly over

Yep, my guess is I’m a “terrorist” and on acronym lists everywhere. I’m OK with that.


27 posted on 11/27/2012 6:53:35 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Candor7

A good, looong read. Need to reread again carefully. I’m struck by many of the older articles in which the authors saw clearly then what Dear Leader and his followers are, and the blindness of the people. The people are cast under a spell and desirith a king.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 7:04:21 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast; eak3; All
-Old
-White
-Guy
-Conservative worldview to the Right of the GOP
-On FR since 1998 ...since '03
-Drives in the Right lane except to pass
-Walks down the Right side of a store aisle
-Holds doors open for others
-Have back-ups to my back-ups
-Independent do-it-my-selfer
still trying to do better..
Glad to be ON the list...

29 posted on 11/27/2012 7:10:41 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: crosshairs

“When I read Kill list in the title, I thought it was going to be about Obamacare and the death panels.”

That’s in another section under “Economy” and a brief mention under “Homeland Security” (”..to secure the nation from the many threats we face...”)


30 posted on 11/27/2012 7:11:12 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: skinkinthegrass

(Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)

Like your tag.

“At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill disciplined, despotic, and useless. Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats.” - P.J. O’Rourke


31 posted on 11/27/2012 7:16:45 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
P.J. O’Rourke
*snicker*..one my Fav. authors.."GIVE WAR A CHANCE"..
"Giving money and power to government is
like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.

32 posted on 11/27/2012 7:25:10 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Seizethecarp

Have you seen their BigDog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww&feature=player_embedded#!


33 posted on 11/27/2012 7:30:12 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Chickensoup; MaxMax


34 posted on 11/27/2012 7:42:52 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast

these aare greeeaaat!


35 posted on 11/27/2012 8:35:52 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: haffast

To defeat Obama and his flash fascist movement we must all understand what kind of political animal Obama is.

He must be exposed by truth, his propaganda machine defeated
and overcome, and his movement needs to be ridiculed.

Obama must be held to the Constitution.He avoids this at every turn with disinformation and prevarication, and maybe murder.

Sorry about the long read, but it is the most accurate view in terms of historical analysis.


36 posted on 11/27/2012 9:59:31 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

Agreed.

We may be shown today just how far his grip and propaganda machine extends:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2963395/posts?page=64

Sen. Kelley Ayotte speaks at 2pm, McCain at 4pm to comment on their meeting this morning with Rice and Morrell.

Thank you for the long read.


37 posted on 11/27/2012 10:28:49 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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