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Firms to be paid to take on long-term jobless
TheLocal.de ^ | 23 Nov 12 11:15 CET | (The Local/bk)

Posted on 11/23/2012 7:04:45 PM PST by Olog-hai

German companies should receive a subsidy if they take on the long-term unemployed, state governments are set to propose on Friday. Up to 75 percent of the new salary should be paid by the state, if necessary for several years.

As many as 200,000 people across Germany could get a job via the new scheme, the Brandenburg Labor Ministry estimated. It is to present the idea—along with five other states—to the upper house of the German parliament on Friday, the Frankfurter Rundschau newspaper reported. …

The proposal would see companies receive the wage subsidy if they employ someone who “cannot be found regular employment in the foreseeable future,” and who has been out of work for two years or more. If necessary, the subsidy would run for up to five years. The workers would be paid according to union tariffs, and receive a “location-typical” wage. (Brandenburg Labor Minister Gunter) Baaske also said people would not be forced to take the job. “It must be on a voluntary basis,” he said. “Only then can people be motivated.” …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: companysubsidy; eussr; socialism

1 posted on 11/23/2012 7:04:53 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Orwellian


2 posted on 11/23/2012 7:08:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

These days, what isn’t Orwellian?


3 posted on 11/23/2012 7:15:46 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Olog-hai

Section 8 Employment Style.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 7:16:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bryanw92

The man was a prophet, in this respect.


5 posted on 11/23/2012 7:20:16 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

1984 was not meant to be an instruction manual.


6 posted on 11/23/2012 7:22:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The Obamanation is more Brave New World than 1984.


7 posted on 11/23/2012 7:25:27 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: dfwgator

If only the Communist Manifesto was not meant to be so either.


8 posted on 11/23/2012 7:26:06 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL

Paying them to work is worse than paying them to not work?


9 posted on 11/23/2012 8:10:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Olog-hai
Better then paying them to sit home and do nothing.

And it would give companies motive to take a chance on someone that they might not consider otherwise.

10 posted on 11/23/2012 8:17:21 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s just as bad.


11 posted on 11/23/2012 8:19:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Goes against the “uncomfortable in their poverty” principle. False premise to assume that the state is going to pay them anyway; slippery slope.

And mixing (nominally?) private business and state in that fashion would be a return to fascism.


12 posted on 11/23/2012 8:32:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Goes against the “uncomfortable in their poverty” principle.

Except they aren't uncomfortable. They are provided with food, shelter and walking around money. But maybe not as much as they would like. Which is what would motivate them to take a job that would provide them with more. It does not motive them to take a job that will provide them with the same or less.

False premise to assume that the state is going to pay them anyway

No, it is a true premise. They are already on the dole.

And mixing (nominally?) private business and state in that fashion would be a return to fascism.

It is already so mixed. Has been for a number of decades. And if that is your idea of fascism then the entire EU is Fascist. Hmmmm... come to think of it you might be right as far as that goes.

13 posted on 11/23/2012 8:49:38 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You’re not getting it as far as the “uncomfortable in their poverty” principle. That was something that Benjamin Franklin put forth as the means to spur people out of their poverty. What societies such as these in the EU are doing (and of course our own so-called “Great Society”) is the very opposite. And the Brandenburg labor minister already acknowledged that there are enough dole recipients that would not take a job of their own free will.


14 posted on 11/23/2012 9:03:07 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
You’re not getting it as far as the “uncomfortable in their poverty” principle.

Yes I do understand the principle. The point is that this is Germany and they are not following that principle.

Seeing as that is the reality then this idea makes a certain amount of sense financially.

And the Brandenburg labor minister already acknowledged that there are enough dole recipients that would not take a job of their own free will.

Exactly. So they make it more attractive for them to get a job. The best way would probably be to cut benefits but, at the risk of becoming repetitious, this is Germany and that is not a realistic expectation.

15 posted on 11/23/2012 9:16:22 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

For a country with €5 trillion of hidden debt, I would not say such a scheme makes sense. Anywhere. Get rid of the state benefits and the people would be lining up for these jobs; even thinking that this is a viable idea (even for the country that authored the social market economy) is rather anti-conservative, with all due respect.


16 posted on 11/23/2012 9:29:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
It doesn't make sense to pay able bodied people to sit around and do nothing either. And that is what they are doing right now.

This makes a bit more sense then that.

Get rid of the state benefits

If "Ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas." In other words, that will not be happening in the foreseeable future.

17 posted on 11/23/2012 9:50:47 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It makes no more sense than endless dole.


18 posted on 11/23/2012 9:51:52 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
As many as 200,000 people across Germany could get a job via the new scheme...

Shore 'nuff a scheme with a double edge to boot. Taxpayers foot the bill for most of the wages and the welfare recipients actually have to work - that'll leave a mark - I'll bet they protest and riot as a "natural reaction" to such blasphemy.

19 posted on 11/24/2012 3:09:58 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Olog-hai

Do they have to work?


20 posted on 11/24/2012 6:50:37 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Olog-hai

The best of the new jobs is telephone book reader. The job requires a chair, good light and any of several metro telephone books. Un like the job of telephone book copier, the reader position requires no quality control function nor expanses of paper or ink.


21 posted on 11/24/2012 6:54:25 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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